best free text html editor?

ink. · 10.21.2010, 01:33 PM

I used to always have crimson editor but it is a bit dated, is there a better option out there? I just have not looked in a long time...

dont need wysiwyg, drag and drop etc, just want text based, but would like multiple windows open, preview windows, colour coded for css, html, php, javascript, etc etc... open source non spyware prefered haha.

atsonicpark · 10.21.2010, 01:54 PM

Just learn some html. It's really easy.
here
<title>PHOENIX RULES</TITLE>
<bODY BGCOLOR=BLACK>
HI!
<CENTER>WE IS SEXY</CENTER>
<a HREF=http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip>cool board I post to</a><hr>Bye!

ink. · 10.21.2010, 02:01 PM

I know html, Im looking for an editor to re write some of our website in. Editors make it easier to move things around or de bug by colour coding tags, css, script, etc, and preview as you're changing

!@#$%! · 10.21.2010, 02:05 PM

atsonic, bgcolor was last used probably in 1999.
it's been all about css since then.

e.g.,

body { background-color:black; }

don't get me started on font tags...

stylesheet docs are separate files linked from header. this makes it easier to update styles while keeping structural html intact.

notepad or text editor are fine-- preview on chrome w/ developer tools

ink. · 10.21.2010, 02:09 PM

they really aren't fine, well, they're fine for smaller things, but as soon as you get past a page it starts to become tedious editing multiple pages and finding the same spots within them to replace or moving text around. Colour coding with editors and 'find/replace' functions and so on really help.

lol chrome.

firefox used to have an okay html editor/preview window but I kept going back to crimson because it was just a lot better for having multiple pages open and editing at once.

ink. · 10.21.2010, 02:10 PM

and actually I'm starting to have a lot of love for oldschool html pages you come across that haven't been edited since 97, because of its simplicity. There is only so much flashing moving disappearing dhtml one can take.

verme (prevaricator) · 10.21.2010, 02:11 PM

!@#$%! · 10.21.2010, 02:11 PM

i use dreamweaver but mostly for the templates

ink. · 10.21.2010, 02:13 PM

vim seems too barebones for me these days

I need to nerd back up.

ink. · 10.21.2010, 02:13 PM

lol dreamweaver.

!@#$%! · 10.21.2010, 02:14 PM

lol this thread

ink. · 10.21.2010, 02:15 PM

have you ever compared the time taken to move around a dreamweaver template to just write the thing? Unless you are doing epic websites of 50+ pages it's just a time drag.

!@#$%! · 10.21.2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ink.

have you ever compared the time taken to move around a dreamweaver template to just write the thing? Unless you are doing epic websites of 50+ pages it's just a time drag.

templates are cake to edit and very cost-effective in terms of time use

i'm not talking about using a prefab template, but about template functionality & the ability to alter a site across the board, plus nested templates for subsections with their own structure-- it's good shit, a huge time saver, especially during a) initial tests ("should this be 2 or 3 column?"), b) redesigns

if it's good and clean and standards compliant template it can live forever, though it remains dependent on the software.

using a template to make a one-page site however would be stupid beyond words. though it could be helpful to someone who has no clue about coding. cs5's templates are pretty clean, considering.

Inhuman · 10.21.2010, 02:23 PM

I hate dreamweaver.

If you're looking for a free one, try notepad++ if yr on Windows.

On mac, I would highly recommend buying Coda if you're a more-than-casual coder. One of the best $100 I ever spent. Support is great, it's a no-bullshit program (no WYSIWYG or useless tools like Dreamweaver has), lightweight, beautiful.

nicfit · 10.21.2010, 02:25 PM

hay inhuman you have a message on facebook (how lame to type this stuff).

ink. · 10.21.2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

templates are cake to edit and very cost-effective in terms of time use

i'm not talking about using a prefab template, but about template functionality & the ability to alter a site across the board, plus nested templates-- it's good shit, a huge time saver, especially during a) initial tests ("should this be 2 or 3 column?"), b) redesigns

if it's good and clean and standards compliant template it can live forever, though it remains dependent on the software.

using a template to make a one-page site however would be stupid beyond words. though it could be helpful to someone who has no clue about coding. cs5's templates are pretty clean, considering.

wasnt having a go at using/creating templates, just dreamweaver to edit them/change the parts you dont like if you are using someone elses.

Inhuman · 10.21.2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ink.

have you ever compared the time taken to move around a dreamweaver template to just write the thing? Unless you are doing epic websites of 50+ pages it's just a time drag.

The templates feature can be nice if someone's REALLY used to using it, but myself and everyone I know usually don't have a problem just duplicating one source file many times to define different templates.

I don't know how they do it these days since I avoid DW, but my impression from the CS3 version wasn't too too great. Adobe pwns with Photoshop and Illustrator. When they dabble with code, I've never liked their results

Inhuman · 10.21.2010, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit

hay inhuman you have a message on facebook (how lame to type this stuff).

Dang man, I'm sorry! It got lost in space. I'll reply now

ink. · 10.21.2010, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhuman

I hate dreamweaver.

If you're looking for a free one, try notepad++ if yr on Windows.

perfect!!! thank you!

I love the run-> multiple pre loaded browsers..

ink. · 10.21.2010, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhuman

The templates feature can be nice if someone's REALLY used to using it, but myself and everyone I know usually don't have a problem just duplicating one source file many times to define different templates.

what I meant was I used to find the way dreamweaver handled opening/viewing/editing multiples to do this really clumsy and too many clicks. Honestly I haven't used it in 8 years though I was so turned off.

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10.21.2010, 01:54 PM	#2
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Just learn some html. It's really easy. here <title>PHOENIX RULES</TITLE> <bODY BGCOLOR=BLACK> <B>HI!</B><P> <CENTER><fONT COLOR=RED>WE IS SEXY</FONT></CENTER><P> <a HREF=http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip>cool board I post to</a><p><hr><p>Bye! __________________
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10.21.2010, 02:01 PM	#3
ink. the end of the ugly Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 862	I know html, Im looking for an editor to re write some of our website in. Editors make it easier to move things around or de bug by colour coding tags, css, script, etc, and preview as you're changing
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10.21.2010, 02:05 PM	#4
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,573	atsonic, bgcolor was last used probably in 1999. it's been all about css since then. e.g., body { background-color:black; } don't get me started on font tags... stylesheet docs are separate files linked from header. this makes it easier to update styles while keeping structural html intact. notepad or text editor are fine-- preview on chrome w/ developer tools
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10.21.2010, 02:09 PM	#5
ink. the end of the ugly Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 862	they really aren't fine, well, they're fine for smaller things, but as soon as you get past a page it starts to become tedious editing multiple pages and finding the same spots within them to replace or moving text around. Colour coding with editors and 'find/replace' functions and so on really help. lol chrome. firefox used to have an okay html editor/preview window but I kept going back to crimson because it was just a lot better for having multiple pages open and editing at once.
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10.21.2010, 02:10 PM	#6
ink. the end of the ugly Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 862	and actually I'm starting to have a lot of love for oldschool html pages you come across that haven't been edited since 97, because of its simplicity. There is only so much flashing moving disappearing dhtml one can take.
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verme (prevaricator) 100% Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 754	vim
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10.21.2010, 02:13 PM	#9
ink. the end of the ugly Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 862	vim seems too barebones for me these days I need to nerd back up.
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!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,573	lol this thread
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10.21.2010, 02:15 PM	#12
ink. the end of the ugly Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 862	have you ever compared the time taken to move around a dreamweaver template to just write the thing? Unless you are doing epic websites of 50+ pages it's just a time drag.
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10.21.2010, 02:23 PM	#14
Inhuman invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,807	I hate dreamweaver. If you're looking for a free one, try notepad++ if yr on Windows. On mac, I would highly recommend buying Coda if you're a more-than-casual coder. One of the best $100 I ever spent. Support is great, it's a no-bullshit program (no WYSIWYG or useless tools like Dreamweaver has), lightweight, beautiful.
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nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	hay inhuman you have a message on facebook (how lame to type this stuff). __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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