Any good 2008 jazz albums?

noisereductions · 07.15.2008, 09:32 AM

Who's heard any good jazz albums released in 08? Sun Ra's SOME BLUES BUT NOT THE KIND THAT's BLUE was really good. Beyond that I haven't seen much. A couple of Keepnews reissues looked alright, and ESP Disk recently reissued Milford Grave's all percussion album... though I've heard that's nothing too special. Any recomendations?

DJ Rick · 07.15.2008, 01:31 PM

I am digging the Spider Trio's "Live at the Rendezvous" LP....that's Wally Shoup on sax with a couple members of the Climax Golden Twins. Available here... http://assophonrecords.blogspot.com/

Also lovin' the new one-sided LP by Little Women...
http://www.gilgongorecords.com/
...rather excellent for the "punk-free-jazz" slumtrip. Most bands can't pull that off for more than fleeting moments.

acousticrock87 · 07.15.2008, 01:39 PM

The last jazz album I bought was Hiromi's Sonic Bloom. I think I bought it in late '07, though, and it was probably around a little while already. I need to catch up on jazz.

batreleaser · 07.15.2008, 02:31 PM

weasel walter-early recordings
the thing re-issues
fire room-broken music
susie ibarra-drum sketches
the thing with ken vandermark-immediate sound
evan parker transatlantic art ensemble-boustrophedon
mike osborne re-issues
mary halvorson/weasel walter-opulence

theres always indredible jazz, free jazz, avant jazz, and improv jazz coming out every year, but they are hardly ever large scale releases these days. all these are worth checking out tho.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 07.15.2008, 02:45 PM

I 've heard good things about Fire room

noisereductions · 07.15.2008, 02:54 PM

batreleaser, I had no idea the Thing did something with Vandermark. Nice. Thanks.

And somehow I KNEW the Sherrif would have at least one suggestion. Funny, too because I had just recently read something about Fire Room.

Let's keep the recommendations coming. All ends of the jazz spectrum welcome. No such thing as a record that's too 'out' nor 'in.'

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 07.15.2008, 03:06 PM

There's a reissue(sort of thing) for Peter Brotzmann's Die Like a Dog boxset consisting of all hte releases(4).
As well as other nurmerous Brotzmann reissues from Atavistic.

Vanderkmark 5 - Beat Reader

Wadada Leo Smith Golden Quartet - Tabligh

noisereductions · 07.15.2008, 03:09 PM

Sheriff, have you heard BEAT READER yet? I've been sort of eyeballing it since it came out. And that DIE LIKE A DOG got a pretty great review (I think from Allmusic) when it came out that had me interested as well.

gmku · 07.15.2008, 03:11 PM

Didn't jazz basically die around 1965?

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 07.15.2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

Sheriff, have you heard BEAT READER yet? I've been sort of eyeballing it since it came out. And that DIE LIKE A DOG got a pretty great review (I think from Allmusic) when it came out that had me interested as well.

No, sadly I haven't. Though since I heard of the Die Like a Dog boxset I've wanted to get my hands on it. I've been wanting to heart Little Birds have Fast Hearts for the longest time.

acousticrock87 · 07.15.2008, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku

Didn't jazz basically die around 1965?

No. Miles Davis did.

noisereductions · 07.15.2008, 03:19 PM

So when Miles died, they destroyed all pre-1966 jazz records, and never reiussed any of them. I guess I forgot about that?

acousticrock87 · 07.15.2008, 03:23 PM

Yep. I learned about it in Jazz History class.

They also hung Count Basie with a stand-up bass string as Chick Corea's opening act.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 07.15.2008, 03:28 PM

Damn.
I think I've come to the conclusion I've got a creepy man crush on Peter Brotzmann, ha.

gmku · 07.15.2008, 03:30 PM

I honestly haven't heard a whole lot of jazz post-1965 that I like in the least, aside from some Sun Ra stuff.

MellySingsDoom · 07.15.2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Rhys Chatham

Damn.
I think I've come to the conclusion I've got a creepy man crush on Peter Brotzmann, ha.

LOL Ewww!

You just like seeing him manhandle his big Teutonic horn, don't you? His early FMP albums still kick total ass, and it's good to know that he's still on fine form these days.

acousticrock87 · 07.15.2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku

I honestly haven't heard a whole lot of jazz post-1965 that I like in the least, aside from some Sun Ra stuff.

It's very different. I like it, but it's almost a completely different genre. You gotta find very specific sounds to get into modern jazz.

Danny Himself · 07.15.2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku

I honestly haven't heard a whole lot of jazz post-1965 that I like in the least, aside from some Sun Ra stuff.

How hard are you looking?

Also sometimes it's good to go to jazz clubs instead of just listening to records. Liverpool has a pretty small jazz scene at the moment, well at least smaller than it used to be in the 60s, but what I've been hearing is gold. Marley Chingus Jazz Explosion and The Blue Nite Band are great, if you can find them on myspace perhaps..

acousticrock87 · 07.15.2008, 03:35 PM

My favorite modern jazz musicians:
Hiromi Uehara and Cecil Taylor

Though Taylor is a bit dated, he's still rather modern.

MellySingsDoom · 07.15.2008, 03:37 PM

I saw Alan Wilkinson, Steve Noble and John Edwards in Dalston last Friday, and they put on a powerful and energetic performance. Jazz is still very much alive - it just takes a bit of rooting around for it these days, tis all...

07.15.2008, 09:32 AM	#1
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	Who's heard any good jazz albums released in 08? Sun Ra's SOME BLUES BUT NOT THE KIND THAT's BLUE was really good. Beyond that I haven't seen much. A couple of Keepnews reissues looked alright, and ESP Disk recently reissued Milford Grave's all percussion album... though I've heard that's nothing too special. Any recomendations?
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07.15.2008, 01:31 PM	#2
DJ Rick 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sacto (CA) Institute for Record Collection Scrutiny Posts: 817	I am digging the Spider Trio's "Live at the Rendezvous" LP....that's Wally Shoup on sax with a couple members of the Climax Golden Twins. Available here... http://assophonrecords.blogspot.com/ Also lovin' the new one-sided LP by Little Women... http://www.gilgongorecords.com/ ...rather excellent for the "punk-free-jazz" slumtrip. Most bands can't pull that off for more than fleeting moments. __________________ http://artforspastics.blogspot.com/
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07.15.2008, 01:39 PM	#3
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	The last jazz album I bought was Hiromi's Sonic Bloom. I think I bought it in late '07, though, and it was probably around a little while already. I need to catch up on jazz.
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07.15.2008, 02:31 PM	#4
batreleaser invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 5,155	weasel walter-early recordings the thing re-issues fire room-broken music susie ibarra-drum sketches the thing with ken vandermark-immediate sound evan parker transatlantic art ensemble-boustrophedon mike osborne re-issues mary halvorson/weasel walter-opulence theres always indredible jazz, free jazz, avant jazz, and improv jazz coming out every year, but they are hardly ever large scale releases these days. all these are worth checking out tho. __________________ listen to pink reason
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07.15.2008, 02:45 PM	#5
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	I 've heard good things about Fire room __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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07.15.2008, 02:54 PM	#6
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	batreleaser, I had no idea the Thing did something with Vandermark. Nice. Thanks. And somehow I KNEW the Sherrif would have at least one suggestion. Funny, too because I had just recently read something about Fire Room. Let's keep the recommendations coming. All ends of the jazz spectrum welcome. No such thing as a record that's too 'out' nor 'in.'
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07.15.2008, 03:06 PM	#7
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	There's a reissue(sort of thing) for Peter Brotzmann's Die Like a Dog boxset consisting of all hte releases(4). As well as other nurmerous Brotzmann reissues from Atavistic. Vanderkmark 5 - Beat Reader Wadada Leo Smith Golden Quartet - Tabligh __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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07.15.2008, 03:09 PM	#8
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	Sheriff, have you heard BEAT READER yet? I've been sort of eyeballing it since it came out. And that DIE LIKE A DOG got a pretty great review (I think from Allmusic) when it came out that had me interested as well.
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07.15.2008, 03:11 PM	#9
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	Didn't jazz basically die around 1965? __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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07.15.2008, 03:19 PM	#12
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	So when Miles died, they destroyed all pre-1966 jazz records, and never reiussed any of them. I guess I forgot about that?
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07.15.2008, 03:23 PM	#13
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	Yep. I learned about it in Jazz History class. They also hung Count Basie with a stand-up bass string as Chick Corea's opening act.
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07.15.2008, 03:28 PM	#14
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	Damn. I think I've come to the conclusion I've got a creepy man crush on Peter Brotzmann, ha. __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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07.15.2008, 03:30 PM	#15
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	I honestly haven't heard a whole lot of jazz post-1965 that I like in the least, aside from some Sun Ra stuff. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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07.15.2008, 03:35 PM	#19
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	My favorite modern jazz musicians: Hiromi Uehara and Cecil Taylor Though Taylor is a bit dated, he's still rather modern.
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07.15.2008, 03:37 PM	#20
MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	I saw Alan Wilkinson, Steve Noble and John Edwards in Dalston last Friday, and they put on a powerful and energetic performance. Jazz is still very much alive - it just takes a bit of rooting around for it these days, tis all... __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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