sinister swine flu story

Toilet & Bowels · 11.11.2009, 06:27 PM

watch this video from an apparently reputable scientist, sinister things are afoot!

http://vimeo.com/7298827

floatingslowly · 11.11.2009, 07:25 PM

I watched 25 minutes of it and wish I had time to watch more.

I think I'm in love. it feels good to hear someone talking sense.

they can take their vaccines and shove them up their asses.

I'm moving to the mountains.

phoenix · 11.11.2009, 08:17 PM

woah. scary. not surprising. def worth watching.

DeadDiscoDildo · 11.12.2009, 12:02 AM

I watched for awhile but was just too busy today, was my mom's birthday.

What's the gist?

I got about as far as changing the definition of pandemic and etc. and how it's not any more dangerous than the seasonal flu.

EDIT: & I'm too busy playing piano now....

phoenix · 11.12.2009, 01:01 AM

that some vaccine suppliers 'accidentally' combined two live viruses in a vaccine, that would make it very easy for them to mutate and take on each others attributes

that who changed teh definition of 'pandemic' to notr have anything to do with mortality rates, despite no change of position of power to give suggestion/orders to countries in regards to what to do in one. this just made me think that people will therefore get used to hearing the word so that when it does happen in the previous sense, people will not 'panic' so much because they will think it is just the 'usual'

and more to do with vaccines this year in particular and testing to do with their content, and problems that would/could occur. Also no legal liability with companies creating them.

possibility of reasoning behind all the 'changes' and 'mix ups' (someone wants everyone to die, and I agree with her 'whats new.. ')

it is really worth the watch + interesting because she is right you don't hear about any of it really, considering how profound all of that is if it is indeed true.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 11.12.2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly

they can take their vaccines and shove them up their asses.

I'm moving to the mountains.

swine flu is just an advertising campaign for swine flu shots. they even give these things to livestock and pets now! by the end of the year, they will have sold hundreds of millions! that is a shit load of money for a disease which even the CDC defines as more mild than the seasonal flu

Genteel Death · 11.12.2009, 05:52 AM

I found it particularly interesting when she was talking about having to take the vaccine or risking jail or a hefty fine. Really good watch, thanks for posting it.

verme (prevaricator) · 11.12.2009, 06:10 AM

that's a long video of what is likely to be a conspiracy theory, on a matter i've little knowledge of; didn't watch.

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

that is a shit load of money for a disease which even the CDC defines as more mild than the seasonal flu

it's still a lethal virus isn't it? and isn't it, that what is driving more concern is not so much it's lethality, but the fact that the h1n1 viruses have proven to have a more prominent ability to survive and mutate?

Toilet & Bowels · 11.12.2009, 08:24 AM

watch the video, it contradicts a lot of what you just said and cites credible sources

verme (prevaricator) · 11.12.2009, 09:15 AM

like i said, i'm not going to watch it.
but please, you and others that have watched it, enlighten me.

Genteel Death · 11.12.2009, 09:17 AM

Watch it first. How can you say something is a conspiracy if you didn't even bother watching the video?

floatingslowly · 11.12.2009, 09:18 AM

it's not near as lethal as the common yearly flu. which is exactly why I've been concerned about raising the global pandemic level as well as the recent declaration of a state of emergency here in the US.

don't get me wrong, it still SUCKS to have. but here I am, no vaccine, and post swine flu infection x2.

fuck the WHO. I can't stand Quadrophenia and don't get
me started on Tommy. fuck a pinball wizard. real wizards cast level 3 ice bolts.

Genteel Death · 11.12.2009, 09:21 AM

I refuse to get the vaccine too, plus I never bother getting the normal jab every year because (fingers crossed) I never seem to get the flu.

phoenix · 11.12.2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by verme (prevaricator)

like i said, i'm not going to watch it.
but please, you and others that have watched it, enlighten me.

it's an hour long, I can't really be bothred paraphrasing much more than what I already have. If you care then watch it.

floatingslowly · 11.12.2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by verme (prevaricator)

like i said, i'm not going to watch it.
but please, you and others that have watched it, enlighten me.

the first minutes or so is about an "error" that Baxter pharmaceuticals made by delivering live bird flu in the vaccine shipment.

again, the worst part is the apparent new ability of the WHO to mandate (to sovereign nations) that their populations be given vaccines "in the case of emergency" and the definition of "emergency" being slackened to include the common flu.

so: "emergency" + WHO + live and unattenuated virus = global domination

how long before Big Pharm has her snuffed?

Toilet & Bowels · 11.12.2009, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

the first minutes or so is about an "error" that Baxter pharmaceuticals made by delivering live bird flu in the vaccine shipment.

again, the worst part is the apparent new ability of the WHO to mandate (to sovereign nations) that their populations be given vaccines "in the case of emergency" and the definition of "emergency" being slackened to include the common flu.

so: "emergency" + WHO + live and unattenuated virus = global domination

how long before Big Pharm has her snuffed?

plus that during pandemics the large pharmaceutical companies have been given permission to make vaccines that haven't been fully tested and been given immunity from prosecution if the vaccines have dangerous side affects

verme (prevaricator) · 11.12.2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

the first minutes or so is about an "error" that Baxter pharmaceuticals made by delivering live bird flu in the vaccine shipment.

again, the worst part is the apparent new ability of the WHO to mandate (to sovereign nations) that their populations be given vaccines "in the case of emergency" and the definition of "emergency" being slackened to include the common flu.

so: "emergency" + WHO + live and unattenuated virus = global domination

how long before Big Pharm has her snuffed?

haha.

but,
is there a new strain of the virus or not?
is there a pandemic or not?
are the h1n1 viruses lethal or not?
should we ignore that they are more prone to survival and mutation?
should we ignore the several other pathologies caused by them?
when did the who mandate anything over sovereign nations?

floatingslowly · 11.12.2009, 10:44 AM

all viruses can mutate from person to person causing in-effect new strains.

the h1n1 viral configuration isn't new by any means. we just don't see flu viruses with the same surface proteins very often.

it doesn't matter if the current swine flu is a genetic descendant of other h1n1s, yr body will react to it the same.

the WHO hasn't done anything yet, but they've sure set themselves up nicely for the event.

this sounds like a job for Deltron3030.

floatingslowly · 11.12.2009, 10:46 AM

ps: by the NEW definition, there is a pandemic every year.

verme (prevaricator) · 11.12.2009, 12:07 PM

when was the definition changed? what was changed?
by the old definition, is there a pandemic or not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

all viruses can mutate from person to person causing in-effect new strains.

but,
aren't some more prone to mutate than others?
aren't some more prone to be transmittable than others?

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

the h1n1 viral configuration isn't new by any means. we just don't see flu viruses with the same surface proteins very often.

but,
is the new strain a previously unseen genetic combination or not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

it doesn't matter if the current swine flu is a genetic descendant of other h1n1s, yr body will react to it the same.

so, they cause the same pathologies.
but,
isn't it true, that the number of official deaths associated with the new strain, reflect only those directly caused by respiratory infection with the virus, unlike the regular flu numbers that count deaths caused by indirect pathologies?

11.11.2009, 06:27 PM	#1
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,273	watch this video from an apparently reputable scientist, sinister things are afoot! http://vimeo.com/7298827
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11.11.2009, 07:25 PM	#2
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	I watched 25 minutes of it and wish I had time to watch more. I think I'm in love. it feels good to hear someone talking sense. they can take their vaccines and shove them up their asses. I'm moving to the mountains.
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11.11.2009, 08:17 PM	#3
phoenix invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: the future where it's hot and dark Posts: 5,926	woah. scary. not surprising. def worth watching. __________________ tiny and lost.
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11.12.2009, 12:02 AM	#4
DeadDiscoDildo invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,805	I watched for awhile but was just too busy today, was my mom's birthday. What's the gist? I got about as far as changing the definition of pandemic and etc. and how it's not any more dangerous than the seasonal flu. EDIT: & I'm too busy playing piano now....
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11.12.2009, 01:01 AM	#5
phoenix invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: the future where it's hot and dark Posts: 5,926	that some vaccine suppliers 'accidentally' combined two live viruses in a vaccine, that would make it very easy for them to mutate and take on each others attributes that who changed teh definition of 'pandemic' to notr have anything to do with mortality rates, despite no change of position of power to give suggestion/orders to countries in regards to what to do in one. this just made me think that people will therefore get used to hearing the word so that when it does happen in the previous sense, people will not 'panic' so much because they will think it is just the 'usual' and more to do with vaccines this year in particular and testing to do with their content, and problems that would/could occur. Also no legal liability with companies creating them. possibility of reasoning behind all the 'changes' and 'mix ups' (someone wants everyone to die, and I agree with her 'whats new.. ') it is really worth the watch + interesting because she is right you don't hear about any of it really, considering how profound all of that is if it is indeed true. __________________ tiny and lost.
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11.12.2009, 05:52 AM	#7
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	I found it particularly interesting when she was talking about having to take the vaccine or risking jail or a hefty fine. Really good watch, thanks for posting it.
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11.12.2009, 08:24 AM	#9
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,273	watch the video, it contradicts a lot of what you just said and cites credible sources
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11.12.2009, 09:15 AM	#10
verme (prevaricator) 100% Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 755	like i said, i'm not going to watch it. but please, you and others that have watched it, enlighten me.
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11.12.2009, 09:17 AM	#11
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	Watch it first. How can you say something is a conspiracy if you didn't even bother watching the video?
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11.12.2009, 09:18 AM	#12
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	it's not near as lethal as the common yearly flu. which is exactly why I've been concerned about raising the global pandemic level as well as the recent declaration of a state of emergency here in the US. don't get me wrong, it still SUCKS to have. but here I am, no vaccine, and post swine flu infection x2. fuck the WHO. I can't stand Quadrophenia and don't get me started on Tommy. fuck a pinball wizard. real wizards cast level 3 ice bolts.
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11.12.2009, 09:21 AM	#13
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	I refuse to get the vaccine too, plus I never bother getting the normal jab every year because (fingers crossed) I never seem to get the flu.
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11.12.2009, 10:44 AM	#18
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	all viruses can mutate from person to person causing in-effect new strains. the h1n1 viral configuration isn't new by any means. we just don't see flu viruses with the same surface proteins very often. it doesn't matter if the current swine flu is a genetic descendant of other h1n1s, yr body will react to it the same. the WHO hasn't done anything yet, but they've sure set themselves up nicely for the event. this sounds like a job for Deltron3030.
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11.12.2009, 10:46 AM	#19
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	ps: by the NEW definition, there is a pandemic every year.
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