Akira Kurosawa films

Disgruntled Youth · 09.02.2006, 11:44 AM

I just saw Ran the other day & it blew my mind it's based on King Leary & I like it more than any other Kurosawa film I've seen yet. It's done in color but the acting & dialoge are superb. A must see for any fan!!! I total Samurai action something similar to Heaven & Earth. Will add more to this when I have more time.

Tokolosh · 09.02.2006, 11:47 AM

Haven't seen that one. I love his work!

Disgruntled Youth · 09.02.2006, 12:04 PM

Trust me 2 hours & 40 minutes of intense shit purely griping. I've seen Sanjuro, 7 Samurai, The Hidden Fortress, Jojimbo, & Rashomon. All I have to say is this one has them all beat. I saw a documentry on Asian cinema & it talked about Ran & how it's one of his least known but one of his best & most influential works & I now believe it. You can see the influence in Hero as far as use of color is concerned. They are two totally different tales but as far as use of color all I have to say is that Ran is written all over Hero. Ran contains a serious plot & great imagery it captures the legacy of the samurai @ it's best. It features betrayal on many ends by different character & it also shows redemtion. Last film I saw that was protraying the samurai this appropriate was Heaven & Earth & if I'm not wrong it was the only movie done on 54 mm film so the shit this movie captures is amaizing, to say the the least. If you get a chance get your hands on both of these films & if you haven't seen Rashomon check that out as well.

Tokolosh · 09.02.2006, 12:58 PM

I've only seen 7 Samurai and The Hidden Fortress out of your list, including Throne of blood, Rhapsody in August and two others I can't remember right now. Did ya know, that Lucas got many ideas from Seven Samurai for his Star Wars saga? The characters, costumes, backdrops, etc.

Gonna look for Ran. Thanks.

Toilet & Bowels · 09.02.2006, 01:17 PM

the ideas for star wars came from the hidden fortress, not seven samurai

Tokolosh · 09.02.2006, 05:38 PM

You are correct in saying that Hidden fortress gave Lucas ideas for C3P0 and R2D2, but not only. Scenes of samurai's going to battle with flags were used in for episode 1 too. Actually, Akira and George were both great admirers of John Ford's films.

Toilet & Bowels · 09.02.2006, 05:44 PM

episode one isn't proper star wars though is it?

Tokolosh · 09.02.2006, 05:53 PM

If I'm not mistaken, you were still a wet dream when A new Hope (Episode IV) came out in 1977.

Sure it's a proper Star Wars. He made them all!

LifeDistortion · 09.02.2006, 07:28 PM

Haven't seen "Ran" yet
Saw "Ikiru",
"Rashomon"
"Yojimbo"
and "The Seven Samuri"

Toilet & Bowels · 09.02.2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh

If I'm not mistaken, you were still a wet dream when A new Hope (Episode IV) came out in 1977.

Sure it's a proper Star Wars. He made them all!

what's your logic, that because i wasn't born in 77 i can't have seen the film?

terminal pharmacy · 09.02.2006, 08:45 PM

well if you are going for where ideas come from star wars is very similar to wagner's ring cycle down to the brother sister incest, although all the bad guys in the ring cycle don't speak like black people or asians

Toilet & Bowels · 09.02.2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

well if you are going for where ideas come from star wars is very similar to wagner's ring cycle down to the brother sister incest, although all the bad guys in the ring cycle don't speak like black people or asians

the emperor doesn't speak like a black person or an asian

LittlePuppetBoy · 09.03.2006, 09:46 AM

I've seen Hidden Fortress, Rashomon, Throne of Blood and 7 Samurai (I fucking love that movie!)

I want to see Ran and the rest of his work.

Disgruntled Youth · 09.03.2006, 12:36 PM

Well for those who've seen Throne of Blood can you tell me what's it like?

Toilet & Bowels · 09.03.2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Disgruntled Youth

Well for those who've seen Throne of Blood can you tell me what's it like?

it's shakespeare's macbeth adapted to fuedal japan

LittlePuppetBoy · 09.04.2006, 09:09 AM

pretty good movie!

highly recommended

09.02.2006, 11:44 AM	#1
Disgruntled Youth the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: I'm sitting right beside you Posts: 839	I just saw Ran the other day & it blew my mind it's based on King Leary & I like it more than any other Kurosawa film I've seen yet. It's done in color but the acting & dialoge are superb. A must see for any fan!!! I total Samurai action something similar to Heaven & Earth. Will add more to this when I have more time. __________________ Duppy know a who fi Frighten "Drink Guinness & live, Hate Guinness & die" Lee "Scratch" Perry
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09.02.2006, 11:47 AM	#2
Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	Haven't seen that one. I love his work! __________________ Anything you can /imagine is real
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09.02.2006, 12:04 PM	#3
Disgruntled Youth the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: I'm sitting right beside you Posts: 839	Trust me 2 hours & 40 minutes of intense shit purely griping. I've seen Sanjuro, 7 Samurai, The Hidden Fortress, Jojimbo, & Rashomon. All I have to say is this one has them all beat. I saw a documentry on Asian cinema & it talked about Ran & how it's one of his least known but one of his best & most influential works & I now believe it. You can see the influence in Hero as far as use of color is concerned. They are two totally different tales but as far as use of color all I have to say is that Ran is written all over Hero. Ran contains a serious plot & great imagery it captures the legacy of the samurai @ it's best. It features betrayal on many ends by different character & it also shows redemtion. Last film I saw that was protraying the samurai this appropriate was Heaven & Earth & if I'm not wrong it was the only movie done on 54 mm film so the shit this movie captures is amaizing, to say the the least. If you get a chance get your hands on both of these films & if you haven't seen Rashomon check that out as well. __________________ Duppy know a who fi Frighten "Drink Guinness & live, Hate Guinness & die" Lee "Scratch" Perry
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09.02.2006, 12:58 PM	#4
Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	I've only seen 7 Samurai and The Hidden Fortress out of your list, including Throne of blood, Rhapsody in August and two others I can't remember right now. Did ya know, that Lucas got many ideas from Seven Samurai for his Star Wars saga? The characters, costumes, backdrops, etc. Gonna look for Ran. Thanks. __________________ Anything you can /imagine is real
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09.02.2006, 01:17 PM	#5
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	the ideas for star wars came from the hidden fortress, not seven samurai
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09.02.2006, 05:38 PM	#6
Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	You are correct in saying that Hidden fortress gave Lucas ideas for C3P0 and R2D2, but not only. Scenes of samurai's going to battle with flags were used in for episode 1 too. Actually, Akira and George were both great admirers of John Ford's films. __________________ Anything you can /imagine is real
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09.02.2006, 05:44 PM	#7
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	episode one isn't proper star wars though is it?
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09.02.2006, 05:53 PM	#8
Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	If I'm not mistaken, you were still a wet dream when A new Hope (Episode IV) came out in 1977. Sure it's a proper Star Wars. He made them all! __________________ Anything you can /imagine is real
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09.02.2006, 07:28 PM	#9
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	Haven't seen "Ran" yet Saw "Ikiru", "Rashomon" "Yojimbo" and "The Seven Samuri"
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09.02.2006, 08:45 PM	#11
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	well if you are going for where ideas come from star wars is very similar to wagner's ring cycle down to the brother sister incest, although all the bad guys in the ring cycle don't speak like black people or asians
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09.03.2006, 09:46 AM	#13
LittlePuppetBoy expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aylmer(now Gatineau), Quebec Posts: 1,756	I've seen Hidden Fortress, Rashomon, Throne of Blood and 7 Samurai (I fucking love that movie!) I want to see Ran and the rest of his work. __________________
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09.03.2006, 12:36 PM	#14
Disgruntled Youth the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: I'm sitting right beside you Posts: 839	Well for those who've seen Throne of Blood can you tell me what's it like? __________________ Duppy know a who fi Frighten "Drink Guinness & live, Hate Guinness & die" Lee "Scratch" Perry
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09.04.2006, 09:09 AM	#16
LittlePuppetBoy expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aylmer(now Gatineau), Quebec Posts: 1,756	pretty good movie! highly recommended __________________
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