Ralph Nader, whoring for attention... again

!@#$%! · 02.24.2008, 10:29 AM

Nader Announces Run for President

Ralph Nader speaks at a news conference in Reading, Pa., in this July 14, 2007 file photo. The consumer advocate will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday Feb. 24, 2008. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster, File) (Carolyn Kaster - AP)

By HOPE YEN
The Associated Press
Sunday, February 24, 2008; 10:16 AM

WASHINGTON -- Ralph Nader said Sunday he will run for president as a third-party candidate, criticizing the top White House contenders as too close to big business and pledging to repeat a bid that will "shift the power from the few to the many."

Nader, 73, said most people are disenchanted with the Democratic and Republican parties due to a prolonged Iraq war and a shaky economy. The consumer advocate also blamed tax and other corporate-friendly policies under the Bush administration that he said have left many lower- and middle-class people in debt.

"You take that framework of people feeling locked out, shut out, marginalized and disrespected," he said. "You go from Iraq, to Palestine to Israel, from Enron to Wall Street, from Katrina to the bumbling of the Bush administration, to the complicity of the Democrats in not stopping him on the war, stopping him on the tax cuts."

"In that context, I have decided to run for president," Nader told NBC's "Meet the Press."

Nader also criticized Republican candidate John McCain and Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton for failing to support full Medicare for all or cracking down on Pentagon waste and a "bloated military budget. He blamed that on corporate lobbyists and special interests, which he said dominate Washington, D.C., and pledged in his third-party campaign to accept donations only from individuals.

"The issue is do they have the moral courage, do they have the fortitude to stand up to corporate powers and get things done for the American people," Nader said. "We have to shift the power from the few to the many."

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, speaking shortly before Nader's announcement, said Nader's past runs have shown that he usually pulls votes from the Democratic nominee. "So naturally, Republicans would welcome his entry into the race," the former Arkansas governor said on CNN.

Nader also ran as a third-party candidate in the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. He is still loathed by many Democrats who call him a spoiler and claim his candidacy in 2000 cost the party the election by siphoning votes away from Al Gore in a razor-thin contest in Florida. Nader vociferously disputes the spoiler claim, saying only Democrats are to blame for losing the race to George W. Bush.

Though he won 2.7 percent of the national vote as the Green Party candidate in 2000, his percentage dropped to just 0.3 percent as an independent in 2004, when he appeared on the ballot in only 34 states.

pbradley · 02.24.2008, 10:35 AM

!@#$%! · 02.24.2008, 10:58 AM

time to go see this asshole on meet the press

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his fucking website is censoring negative comments btw

pbradley · 02.24.2008, 11:10 AM

Ron Paul's wouldn't

✌➬ · 02.24.2008, 02:48 PM

I am voting for him, so my votes don't count. That is what I heard, that people who vote for him their votes don't count.

Cantankerous · 02.24.2008, 02:52 PM

They do count, however insignificant. My prediction is that Hilary and Barack will end up on the same ticket, which is:
a) an almost guaranteed winner
b) an assassination waiting to happen

✌➬ · 02.24.2008, 02:55 PM

So true, Obama will be the first to go right?

LifeDistortion · 02.24.2008, 03:19 PM

I just don't understand Nader. I think he has some great ideas, but why doesn't he run in contests he could actually win AND effect change? We need more independants in the senate. His vote could block many Republican bills from passing. He could really be effective in that context, I think less and less people take him seriously every time he runs for presidant, he looks less and less like a man who really wants to change the way politics are conducted, and looks more and more like just a selfish, media stealing ass.

!@#$%! · 02.24.2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

They do count, however insignificant. My prediction is that Hilary and Barack will end up on the same ticket, which is:
a) an almost guaranteed winner
b) an assassination waiting to happen

na-ah. hillary rove clinton will be secretary of state or health and human services or something.

the right ticket is obama + bill richardson

and yeah HRC would get obama killed within the first 90 days

another kennedy/johnson

Cantankerous · 02.24.2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeDistortion

I just don't understand Nader. I think he has some great ideas, but why doesn't he run in contests he could actually win AND effect change? We need more independants in the senate. His vote could block many Republican bills from passing. He could really be effective in that context, I think less and less people take him seriously every time he runs for presidant, he looks less and less like a man who really wants to change the way politics are conducted, and looks more and more like just a selfish, media stealing ass.

I think at this point he's just fucking with us. He has to know that he'll never win the presidential election. Either that or he's too senile to realise it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

na-ah. hillary rove clinton will be secretary of state or health and human services or something.

the right ticket is obama + bill richardson

and yeah HRC would get obama killed within the first 90 days

another kennedy/johnson

I just want Bill to be first bitch.

!@#$%! · 02.24.2008, 03:21 PM

even if for some freak accident he "won", how the fuck would he get anything done without the congress?

the fucker is delusional...

Cantankerous · 02.24.2008, 03:24 PM

Nader is completely deluded if he thinks he would actually accomplish anything during his tenure as president.

!@#$%! · 02.24.2008, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

Nader is completely deluded if he thinks he would actually accomplish anything during his tenure as president.

exactly.

he's a self-absorbed holier-than-thou prick

Savage Clone · 02.24.2008, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

exactly.

he's a self-absorbed holier-than-thou prick

And he's totally the only one in politics with these personality traits.

!@#$%! · 02.24.2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

And he's totally the only one in politics with these personality traits.

add "dangerously delusional" to the list of traits

Cantankerous · 02.24.2008, 03:55 PM

ralph nader kind of reminds me of my grandpa...like he would put meat in the cabinets instead of the refrigerator or accidentally burn the house down.

Lethrneck4 · 02.24.2008, 04:52 PM

my question is how many people here who supported nader in 2000, now hate him? i bet a lot, and im not surprised....im convinced people like tesla and !@#$% voted for nader in 2000, with many here.

hypocrites,,,as i always say, this board is full of them

!@#$%! · 02.24.2008, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lethrneck4

my question is how many people here who supported nader in 2000, now hate him? i bet a lot, and im not surprised....im convinced people like tesla and !@#$% voted for nader in 2000, with many here.

hypocrites,,,as i always say, this board is full of them

god dammit man, you're a dunce and a bore.

Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski · 02.24.2008, 06:43 PM

I hate it when people call out political hypocrisy. People change their minds as they age and as new situations develop. I supported Nader when I was 22, but now that I'm older, I don't support his efforts to publicize himself. It would be far worse if I simply "stayed the course" with my political opinions.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 02.24.2008, 09:18 PM

good, maybe his participation will reveal the fraud of the the supposed two-party system.

02.24.2008, 10:29 AM	#1
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,547	Nader Announces Run for President Ralph Nader speaks at a news conference in Reading, Pa., in this July 14, 2007 file photo. The consumer advocate will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday Feb. 24, 2008. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster, File) (Carolyn Kaster - AP) By HOPE YEN The Associated Press Sunday, February 24, 2008; 10:16 AM WASHINGTON -- Ralph Nader said Sunday he will run for president as a third-party candidate, criticizing the top White House contenders as too close to big business and pledging to repeat a bid that will "shift the power from the few to the many." Nader, 73, said most people are disenchanted with the Democratic and Republican parties due to a prolonged Iraq war and a shaky economy. The consumer advocate also blamed tax and other corporate-friendly policies under the Bush administration that he said have left many lower- and middle-class people in debt. "You take that framework of people feeling locked out, shut out, marginalized and disrespected," he said. "You go from Iraq, to Palestine to Israel, from Enron to Wall Street, from Katrina to the bumbling of the Bush administration, to the complicity of the Democrats in not stopping him on the war, stopping him on the tax cuts." "In that context, I have decided to run for president," Nader told NBC's "Meet the Press." Nader also criticized Republican candidate John McCain and Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton for failing to support full Medicare for all or cracking down on Pentagon waste and a "bloated military budget. He blamed that on corporate lobbyists and special interests, which he said dominate Washington, D.C., and pledged in his third-party campaign to accept donations only from individuals. "The issue is do they have the moral courage, do they have the fortitude to stand up to corporate powers and get things done for the American people," Nader said. "We have to shift the power from the few to the many." Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, speaking shortly before Nader's announcement, said Nader's past runs have shown that he usually pulls votes from the Democratic nominee. "So naturally, Republicans would welcome his entry into the race," the former Arkansas governor said on CNN. Nader also ran as a third-party candidate in the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. He is still loathed by many Democrats who call him a spoiler and claim his candidacy in 2000 cost the party the election by siphoning votes away from Al Gore in a razor-thin contest in Florida. Nader vociferously disputes the spoiler claim, saying only Democrats are to blame for losing the race to George W. Bush. Though he won 2.7 percent of the national vote as the Green Party candidate in 2000, his percentage dropped to just 0.3 percent as an independent in 2004, when he appeared on the ballot in only 34 states.
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02.24.2008, 10:58 AM	#3
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,547	time to go see this asshole on meet the press -- his fucking website is censoring negative comments btw
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02.24.2008, 11:10 AM	#4
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	Ron Paul's wouldn't
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02.24.2008, 02:48 PM	#5
✌➬ invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ιλ Posts: 5,754	I am voting for him, so my votes don't count. That is what I heard, that people who vote for him their votes don't count. __________________ We Kill Homosexuals!!!
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02.24.2008, 02:52 PM	#6
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	They do count, however insignificant. My prediction is that Hilary and Barack will end up on the same ticket, which is: a) an almost guaranteed winner b) an assassination waiting to happen
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02.24.2008, 02:55 PM	#7
✌➬ invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ιλ Posts: 5,754	So true, Obama will be the first to go right? __________________ We Kill Homosexuals!!!
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02.24.2008, 03:19 PM	#8
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	I just don't understand Nader. I think he has some great ideas, but why doesn't he run in contests he could actually win AND effect change? We need more independants in the senate. His vote could block many Republican bills from passing. He could really be effective in that context, I think less and less people take him seriously every time he runs for presidant, he looks less and less like a man who really wants to change the way politics are conducted, and looks more and more like just a selfish, media stealing ass.
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02.24.2008, 03:21 PM	#11
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,547	even if for some freak accident he "won", how the fuck would he get anything done without the congress? the fucker is delusional...
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02.24.2008, 03:24 PM	#12
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	Nader is completely deluded if he thinks he would actually accomplish anything during his tenure as president.
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02.24.2008, 03:55 PM	#16
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	ralph nader kind of reminds me of my grandpa...like he would put meat in the cabinets instead of the refrigerator or accidentally burn the house down.
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02.24.2008, 04:52 PM	#17
Lethrneck4 children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 293	my question is how many people here who supported nader in 2000, now hate him? i bet a lot, and im not surprised....im convinced people like tesla and !@#$% voted for nader in 2000, with many here. hypocrites,,,as i always say, this board is full of them __________________ the nerve, the unmitigated gall of this asshole - atari2600 i consider you dumb, ignorant, and irrelevant perhaps more than a fly, but less than a fart. a joke - !@#$%! Death by a firing squard of ten black gay men would be too good for this shithead. - atari2600 loser retard. pothead - !@#$%! you're a real prick for acting so daft & being so disagreeable on purpose - atari2600 On the contrary, tesla69 is idiota numero uno - atari2600
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02.24.2008, 06:43 PM	#19
Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Japan Posts: 345	I hate it when people call out political hypocrisy. People change their minds as they age and as new situations develop. I supported Nader when I was 22, but now that I'm older, I don't support his efforts to publicize himself. It would be far worse if I simply "stayed the course" with my political opinions.
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02.24.2008, 09:18 PM	#20
SuchFriendsAreDangerous invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fucking Los Angeles Posts: 14,801	good, maybe his participation will reveal the fraud of the the supposed two-party system. __________________ Today Rap music is the Lakers
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