boredoms and other japanese acts.

king_buzzo · 01.22.2008, 02:53 PM

what should i start with boredoms?

reccomend some other japanese shit.

booooboboobobob.

drrrtyboots · 01.22.2008, 02:57 PM

Boredoms sound like absolutely no one else and asking for Japanese music is like asking where to start with American music.

Start with either Pop Tatari or Chocolate Synthesizer if you want some crazier, spontaneous noise or if you want godly sun worshipping goodness get Vision Creation Newsun or Super Ae.

king_buzzo · 01.22.2008, 03:01 PM

thnks.//////

sonicl · 01.22.2008, 03:11 PM

I guarantee you that you will love High Rise, if you can find anything by them. My recommendation is "Live" on PSF or Squealer:

Try this for size: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZY4Hs7Kn_I

As far as Boredoms are concerned, try Super Ae as a starting place.

two faced egg · 01.22.2008, 03:24 PM

Yea..Well It Seems i started with Pop Tatari & Chocalate Synth Super Rad! Just ordered Super roots 6 seems 66 mins of shorts jams i belieive ..i am the most fan of 00ioo (have said this a hundred times)..Feather Float is great might not be for everybody..kinda challenging...kila kila kila..Gold & Green ! yea...Munching down on Cannabis..

atsonicpark · 01.22.2008, 03:26 PM

..........................you've opened up a can of worms. I feel the urge to make a ridiculously long list that no one will care about.......

First you listen to "Chocolate Synthesizer", "Super AE", then "Vision Creation Newsun". Then, you listen to every Omoide Hatoba record (they're actually better than the Boredoms). Then every OOIOO record. Then every Hanadensha record. Then every Rovo record. Then every Psycho Baba record. Then any solo works by Yoshimi or Seeiichi Yamamoto. Then, you can go and listen to the early Boredoms stuff and understand its brilliance a bit better. Though really, the later stuff is where they're "godhead"..........

Do all that then come back to this thread in a few years..

......

Seriously, I've been listening to Boredoms plus their offshoot bands religiously for at least the last 6 years and I still haven't even heard half of the amazing shit they've done. I'm discovering shit all the time I'd never know about, like Novo Tono for example -- how the fuck did that escape me? It's all really good shit, you can't really go wrong.

As for "other Japanese acts", that's a bit vague eh? Oh well. Here are some acts I really love and some I don't love AS much but still dig (this is an incomplete list, and I've excluded a LOT of bands that I only maybe like one or two songs by), I'm not going to include stuff like Afrirampo, Boris, Acid Mothers, Melt Banana, etc. because they're really well-known here:

SHIT THAT ROCKS AND IS ESSENTIAL!:
blam honey [one of the weirdest bands I've ever heard; if Nine Inch Nails were good and made by someone who hates music or something -- brilliant!]
bleachmobile [also known as Bleach'03; AMAZING]
bloodthirsty butchers [their early stuff sounds like Fugazi]
coaltar of the deepers [careful; one of their albums is J-Pop, one is J-Pop death metal, and the rest explore shoegaze or kraut rock -- very eclectic band]
gaji [like a Japanese Jesus Lizard obsessed with harmonics -- essential!]
limited express (has gone?)
luminous orange
number girl [one of my all time favorite bands; they're my user icon...]
ogre you asshole
super junky monkey
toddle
vola & the oriental machine

SHIT THAT ROCKS BUT ISN'T ESSENTIAL:
9mm parabellum bullet
art-school
bandwagon
boom boom satellites
bugy craxone
nico touches the walls
the pillows [not a huge fan, but lots of people are, so..]
plastic tree [early stuff]
red bacteria vacuum
sloth love chunks
sparta locals [sound like At the Drive-In]

SHIT THAT KINDA ROCKS AND IS KINDA ARTY:
brilliant green
ex-girl
fujifabric
mo'some tonebender
quruli

SHIT THAT'S BLEEPY, BOUNCY, ETC BUT PROBABLY, UH, "ROCKS"!:

cali-gari
metronome
polysics
spoozys
supercar [early stuff]

REALLY FUCKING GREAT J-POP:
capsule
coltemonikha
electric tomato
mac monald duck eclair
motocompo
pena
plus-tech squeezebox [craziest band EVER; like Mr. Bungle doing J-Pop]

POST-ROCK/MATH ROCK TYPE SHIT:
mono
world's end girlfriend
zazen boys [essential!]

AVANT-GARDE/FOLK/NOISE TYPE STUFF:
all boredoms related bands
abe kaoru
aki onda
ami yoshida
angel in heavy syrup
aube
brain police
broomdusters
c.c.c.c.
captain trip
chie mukai
chu ishikawa [does the music for Tsukamoto films -- great stuff!]
ché-shizu
contagious orgasm
cornelius
doping panda
dowser
dumb type
flower travellin' band
fushitsusha
gerogerigegege
ghost [I guess they're fairly well known now, but...]
go hirano
high rise
hijokaidan
hiroaki mizutani
hiroshi nar
hiroshi shiotani
hoppy kamiyama
ikue mori [was the drummer of DNA; "Hex Kitchen" is ESSENTIAL!]
kazuki tomokawa [acid folk singer; one of my all time favorite musicians, if you care...]
k.k. null
keiji haino [duh?]
kozo inada
lsd march [excellent; one of my favorite bands as well]
mainliner
marble sheep
masami tada
merzbow

michiyo yagi
minor coffee shop
musica transonic
naoki zushi
novo tono
nobukazu takemura [another artist who varies in range quite a bit; I prefer his more ambient stuff]
otomo yoshihide
overhang party
oz disc
phew
pinakotheca
reiko kudo
ryoji ikeda
sachiko m.
sawako
seiji nagai
taj mahal travellers
tenko
tetsuo furudate
tokyo kid brothers
tokyo rockers
toshimaru nakamura
tujiko noriko
violent onsen geisha
white heaven
yamazaki maso
yoshida tatsuya
yoshizawa motoharu
zero gravity

That's all I can think of right now, I'll update this if I think of more. I know I'm definitely leaving out some good Japanese IDM/glitch artists, but I dunno if anyone here really cares about that shit besides me.... hmph.

king_buzzo · 01.22.2008, 03:53 PM

holy shit! is there anything you don't know ???

thanks btw.

Bollocks_to_Pop · 01.22.2008, 04:02 PM

I was going to start a thread asking what Boredoms cd to start with a couple of days ago, but then I just ordered Vision Creation Newsun and Seadrum/House of Sun because I heard some tracks online and it sounded amazing.

fugazifan · 01.22.2008, 04:19 PM

i belive that thre is ne band that ASP forgot, that have an album that i really dig. xinlisupreme-murder license
it is pretty awesome.
and if it was mentioned, my apologies

racehorse · 01.22.2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

..........................you've opened up a can of worms. I feel the urge to make a ridiculously long list that no one will care about.......

First you listen to "Chocolate Synthesizer", "Super AE", then "Vision Creation Newsun". Then, you listen to every Omoide Hatoba record (they're actually better than the Boredoms). Then every OOIOO record. Then every Hanadensha record. Then every Rovo record. Then every Psycho Baba record. Then any solo works by Yoshimi or Seeiichi Yamamoto. Then, you can go and listen to the early Boredoms stuff and understand its brilliance a bit better. Though really, the later stuff is where they're "godhead"..........

Do all that then come back to this thread in a few years..

......

Seriously, I've been listening to Boredoms plus their offshoot bands religiously for at least the last 6 years and I still haven't even heard half of the amazing shit they've done. I'm discovering shit all the time I'd never know about, like Novo Tono for example -- how the fuck did that escape me? It's all really good shit, you can't really go wrong.

As for "other Japanese acts", that's a bit vague eh? Oh well. Here are some acts I really love and some I don't love AS much but still dig (this is an incomplete list, and I've excluded a LOT of bands that I only maybe like one or two songs by), I'm not going to include stuff like Afrirampo, Boris, Acid Mothers, Melt Banana, etc. because they're really well-known here:

SHIT THAT ROCKS AND IS ESSENTIAL!:
blam honey [one of the weirdest bands I've ever heard; if Nine Inch Nails were good and made by someone who hates music or something -- brilliant!]
bleachmobile [also known as Bleach'03; AMAZING]
bloodthirsty butchers [their early stuff sounds like Fugazi]
coaltar of the deepers [careful; one of their albums is J-Pop, one is J-Pop death metal, and the rest explore shoegaze or kraut rock -- very eclectic band]
gaji [like a Japanese Jesus Lizard obsessed with harmonics -- essential!]
limited express (has gone?)
luminous orange
number girl [one of my all time favorite bands; they're my user icon...]
ogre you asshole
super junky monkey
toddle
vola & the oriental machine

SHIT THAT ROCKS BUT ISN'T ESSENTIAL:
9mm parabellum bullet
art-school
bandwagon
boom boom satellites
bugy craxone
nico touches the walls
the pillows [not a huge fan, but lots of people are, so..]
plastic tree [early stuff]
red bacteria vacuum
sloth love chunks
sparta locals [sound like At the Drive-In]

SHIT THAT KINDA ROCKS AND IS KINDA ARTY:
brilliant green
ex-girl
fujifabric
mo'some tonebender
quruli

SHIT THAT'S BLEEPY, BOUNCY, ETC BUT PROBABLY, UH, "ROCKS"!:

cali-gari
metronome
polysics
spoozys
supercar [early stuff]

REALLY FUCKING GREAT J-POP:
capsule
coltemonikha
electric tomato
mac monald duck eclair
motocompo
pena
plus-tech squeezebox [craziest band EVER; like Mr. Bungle doing J-Pop]

POST-ROCK/MATH ROCK TYPE SHIT:
mono
world's end girlfriend
zazen boys [essential!]

AVANT-GARDE/FOLK/NOISE TYPE STUFF:
all boredoms related bands
abe kaoru
aki onda
ami yoshida
angel in heavy syrup
aube
brain police
broomdusters
c.c.c.c.
captain trip
chie mukai
chu ishikawa [does the music for Tsukamoto films -- great stuff!]
ché-shizu
contagious orgasm
cornelius
doping panda
dowser
dumb type
flower travellin' band
fushitsusha
gerogerigegege
ghost [I guess they're fairly well known now, but...]
go hirano
high rise
hijokaidan
hiroaki mizutani
hiroshi nar
hiroshi shiotani
hoppy kamiyama
ikue mori [was the drummer of DNA; "Hex Kitchen" is ESSENTIAL!]
kazuki tomokawa [acid folk singer; one of my all time favorite musicians, if you care...]
k.k. null
keiji haino [duh?]
kozo inada
lsd march [excellent; one of my favorite bands as well]
mainliner
marble sheep
masami tada
merzbow

michiyo yagi
minor coffee shop
musica transonic
naoki zushi
novo tono
nobukazu takemura [another artist who varies in range quite a bit; I prefer his more ambient stuff]
otomo yoshihide
overhang party
oz disc
phew
pinakotheca
reiko kudo
ryoji ikeda
sachiko m.
sawako
seiji nagai
taj mahal travellers
tenko
tetsuo furudate
tokyo kid brothers
tokyo rockers
toshimaru nakamura
tujiko noriko
violent onsen geisha
white heaven
yamazaki maso
yoshida tatsuya
yoshizawa motoharu
zero gravity

That's all I can think of right now, I'll update this if I think of more. I know I'm definitely leaving out some good Japanese IDM/glitch artists, but I dunno if anyone here really cares about that shit besides me.... hmph.

my word. that's a comprehensive list if ever i saw one.
do you have pictures of your record collection? it must take up at least a couple of rooms!

Toilet & Bowels · 01.22.2008, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racehorse

my word. that's a comprehensive list if ever i saw one.
do you have pictures of your record collection? it must take up at least a couple of rooms!

more likely he's spent a lot of time on soulseek or copied and pasted from wikipedia

Everyneurotic · 01.22.2008, 07:06 PM

adam forgot kaoru abe, masayuki takayanagi (both are free jazz), kousokuya, suishou no fune, pain jerk, kenji siratori (some) and up-tight; all which i recommend and rank highly.

the ikara cult · 01.22.2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drrrtyboots

Boredoms sound like absolutely no one else and asking for Japanese music is like asking where to start with American music.

Start with either Pop Tatari or Chocolate Synthesizer if you want some crazier, spontaneous noise or if you want godly sun worshipping goodness get Vision Creation Newsun or Super Ae.

I only listened to Pop Tatari and Chocolate Synthesiser, and both are completely bananas, so maybe the other albums mentioned before are the best to start with

batreleaser · 01.22.2008, 08:19 PM

god fucking damn you atsonicpark, at least save some bands for me to reccomend haha.

but you didnt say FUCK ON THE BEACH; japanese hatethrashcore.

batreleaser · 01.22.2008, 08:20 PM

and for captain obvious, melt banana.

batreleaser · 01.22.2008, 08:21 PM

and ruins

batreleaser · 01.22.2008, 08:50 PM

fuck you said melt banana

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 01.22.2008, 08:57 PM

Toshinori kondo, avant-garde jazz, jazz fusion, ambient esque

Everyneurotic · 01.22.2008, 09:01 PM

gauze
lipcream
confuse
nightmare
die you bastard!
mortalized
deathless muss
s.o.b.
coffins
rose rose

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 01.22.2008, 09:05 PM

Oh yeah

GISM a hardcore punk band with metal tendencies.

01.22.2008, 02:53 PM	#1
king_buzzo invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,110	what should i start with boredoms? reccomend some other japanese shit. booooboboobobob.
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drrrtyboots invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: in the forest(s) Posts: 2,946	Boredoms sound like absolutely no one else and asking for Japanese music is like asking where to start with American music. Start with either Pop Tatari or Chocolate Synthesizer if you want some crazier, spontaneous noise or if you want godly sun worshipping goodness get Vision Creation Newsun or Super Ae. __________________
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king_buzzo invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,110	thnks.//////
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01.22.2008, 03:11 PM	#4
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	I guarantee you that you will love High Rise, if you can find anything by them. My recommendation is "Live" on PSF or Squealer: Try this for size: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZY4Hs7Kn_I As far as Boredoms are concerned, try Super Ae as a starting place.
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01.22.2008, 03:24 PM	#5
two faced egg little trouble girl Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 46	Yea..Well It Seems i started with Pop Tatari & Chocalate Synth Super Rad! Just ordered Super roots 6 seems 66 mins of shorts jams i belieive ..i am the most fan of 00ioo (have said this a hundred times)..Feather Float is great might not be for everybody..kinda challenging...kila kila kila..Gold & Green ! yea...Munching down on Cannabis..
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01.22.2008, 03:26 PM	#6
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	..........................you've opened up a can of worms. I feel the urge to make a ridiculously long list that no one will care about....... First you listen to "Chocolate Synthesizer", "Super AE", then "Vision Creation Newsun". Then, you listen to every Omoide Hatoba record (they're actually better than the Boredoms). Then every OOIOO record. Then every Hanadensha record. Then every Rovo record. Then every Psycho Baba record. Then any solo works by Yoshimi or Seeiichi Yamamoto. Then, you can go and listen to the early Boredoms stuff and understand its brilliance a bit better. Though really, the later stuff is where they're "godhead".......... Do all that then come back to this thread in a few years.. ...... Seriously, I've been listening to Boredoms plus their offshoot bands religiously for at least the last 6 years and I still haven't even heard half of the amazing shit they've done. I'm discovering shit all the time I'd never know about, like Novo Tono for example -- how the fuck did that escape me? It's all really good shit, you can't really go wrong. As for "other Japanese acts", that's a bit vague eh? Oh well. Here are some acts I really love and some I don't love AS much but still dig (this is an incomplete list, and I've excluded a LOT of bands that I only maybe like one or two songs by), I'm not going to include stuff like Afrirampo, Boris, Acid Mothers, Melt Banana, etc. because they're really well-known here: SHIT THAT ROCKS AND IS ESSENTIAL!: blam honey [one of the weirdest bands I've ever heard; if Nine Inch Nails were good and made by someone who hates music or something -- brilliant!] bleachmobile [also known as Bleach'03; AMAZING] bloodthirsty butchers [their early stuff sounds like Fugazi] coaltar of the deepers [careful; one of their albums is J-Pop, one is J-Pop death metal, and the rest explore shoegaze or kraut rock -- very eclectic band] gaji [like a Japanese Jesus Lizard obsessed with harmonics -- essential!] limited express (has gone?) luminous orange number girl [one of my all time favorite bands; they're my user icon...] ogre you asshole super junky monkey toddle vola & the oriental machine SHIT THAT ROCKS BUT ISN'T ESSENTIAL: 9mm parabellum bullet art-school bandwagon boom boom satellites bugy craxone nico touches the walls the pillows [not a huge fan, but lots of people are, so..] plastic tree [early stuff] red bacteria vacuum sloth love chunks sparta locals [sound like At the Drive-In] SHIT THAT KINDA ROCKS AND IS KINDA ARTY: brilliant green ex-girl fujifabric mo'some tonebender quruli SHIT THAT'S BLEEPY, BOUNCY, ETC BUT PROBABLY, UH, "ROCKS"!: cali-gari metronome polysics spoozys supercar [early stuff] REALLY FUCKING GREAT J-POP: capsule coltemonikha electric tomato mac monald duck eclair motocompo pena plus-tech squeezebox [craziest band EVER; like Mr. Bungle doing J-Pop] POST-ROCK/MATH ROCK TYPE SHIT: mono world's end girlfriend zazen boys [essential!] AVANT-GARDE/FOLK/NOISE TYPE STUFF: all boredoms related bands abe kaoru aki onda ami yoshida angel in heavy syrup aube brain police broomdusters c.c.c.c. captain trip chie mukai chu ishikawa [does the music for Tsukamoto films -- great stuff!] ché-shizu contagious orgasm cornelius doping panda dowser dumb type flower travellin' band fushitsusha gerogerigegege ghost [I guess they're fairly well known now, but...] go hirano high rise hijokaidan hiroaki mizutani hiroshi nar hiroshi shiotani hoppy kamiyama ikue mori [was the drummer of DNA; "Hex Kitchen" is ESSENTIAL!] kazuki tomokawa [acid folk singer; one of my all time favorite musicians, if you care...] k.k. null keiji haino [duh?] kozo inada lsd march [excellent; one of my favorite bands as well] mainliner marble sheep masami tada merzbow michiyo yagi minor coffee shop musica transonic naoki zushi novo tono nobukazu takemura [another artist who varies in range quite a bit; I prefer his more ambient stuff] otomo yoshihide overhang party oz disc phew pinakotheca reiko kudo ryoji ikeda sachiko m. sawako seiji nagai taj mahal travellers tenko tetsuo furudate tokyo kid brothers tokyo rockers toshimaru nakamura tujiko noriko violent onsen geisha white heaven yamazaki maso yoshida tatsuya yoshizawa motoharu zero gravity That's all I can think of right now, I'll update this if I think of more. I know I'm definitely leaving out some good Japanese IDM/glitch artists, but I dunno if anyone here really cares about that shit besides me.... hmph. __________________
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king_buzzo invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,110	holy shit! is there anything you don't know ??? thanks btw.
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Bollocks_to_Pop children of satan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 296	I was going to start a thread asking what Boredoms cd to start with a couple of days ago, but then I just ordered Vision Creation Newsun and Seadrum/House of Sun because I heard some tracks online and it sounded amazing.
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fugazifan invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,816	i belive that thre is ne band that ASP forgot, that have an album that i really dig. xinlisupreme-murder license it is pretty awesome. and if it was mentioned, my apologies __________________ If there's been a way to build it, There'll be a way to destroy it, Things are not that out of control www.myspace.com/dellilahtheband www.myspace.com/lecirquedesvampiresmusic
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Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	adam forgot kaoru abe, masayuki takayanagi (both are free jazz), kousokuya, suishou no fune, pain jerk, kenji siratori (some) and up-tight; all which i recommend and rank highly. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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batreleaser invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 5,155	god fucking damn you atsonicpark, at least save some bands for me to reccomend haha. but you didnt say FUCK ON THE BEACH; japanese hatethrashcore.
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Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	Toshinori kondo, avant-garde jazz, jazz fusion, ambient esque __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	gauze lipcream confuse nightmare die you bastard! mortalized deathless muss s.o.b. coffins rose rose __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	Oh yeah GISM a hardcore punk band with metal tendencies. __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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