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Old 11.24.2008, 12:51 PM   #1
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Has anybody seen this yet? Is it good?

It's looks awesome, but I haven't gotten around to watching it yet.
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Old 11.24.2008, 12:57 PM   #2
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I'm a huge fan of the original Django - I plan to watch this but my hopes aren't high.
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Old 11.25.2008, 08:28 AM   #3
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Think this is on Atsonicpark's movies last watched list, heres Japan Times review -

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-b...0070914a1.html

Not too keen on Tarantino these days..
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Old 11.25.2008, 10:54 AM   #4
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Yeah, I watched this last Thursday. It's decent. What did I give it, a 6 or 7? It's good enough, has some nice artful direction, especially at the beginning and end. I dunno. Not anything special but definitely watchable. Ranks somewhere in the middle as far as Miike films go. Tarantino is awful in it of course but he's not in it very long.
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Old 12.01.2008, 08:38 AM   #5
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Just watched this Friday. IMO, it was excellent.

It seemed to start off slow; not a lot going on, and when things did happen, you weren't sure why they were happening because you were dropped into the middle of the story. Then again, this is very typical of westerns (or at least spaghetti westerns, the only kind I have really watched; I'm not a fan of the John Wayne sort).

I also enjoyed the surreal quality of the movie, and not only the intentionally surreal parts. Just the fact that it was a japanese imitation of spaghetti westerns -which themselves are italian imitations of american westerns -gave it a unique feel. While it's true that usually a copy of a copy produces a shoddy product (if you don't know what I mean, try it with your house key and see if you can get inside your home with the final key), if done right, like it was with this movie, you can have a finished version of a film that makes you feel like you are watching a bizarre dream after a marathon of Clint Eastwood movies and bad sushi.
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Old 12.01.2008, 09:08 AM   #6
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I thought it started amazing and ended amazing but the middle was decent at best. The extremely surreal parts were the best part, as is usual for Miike films.. The Japanese actors speaking in English the entire time annoyed me. But, again, that's Miike for you. Also, the whole thing was too long... AGAIN, that's Miike. Haha. I've seen something like 40 of his films (and that doesnt count his tv shows!), so it didn't blow my mind or anything. But I can see how someone would love it.. to me, it ranks somewhere in the middle as far as Miike films go. Could've been better.

Glad you enjoyed it!
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Old 12.01.2008, 09:20 AM   #7
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I thought it started amazing and ended amazing but the middle was decent at best. The extremely surreal parts were the best part, as is usual for Miike films.. The Japanese actors speaking in English the entire time annoyed me. But, again, that's Miike for you. Also, the whole thing was too long... AGAIN, that's Miike. Haha. I've seen something like 40 of his films (and that doesnt count his tv shows!), so it didn't blow my mind or anything. But I can see how someone would love it.. to me, it ranks somewhere in the middle as far as Miike films go. Could've been better.

Glad you enjoyed it!

I'm not too familiar with his work, so I may not have a proper reference when it comes to judging his stuff, but I did love it.

And you are right, it did start out amazing, with the stage play effect of the opening scene. I was more alluding to the story, not knowing what was going on, then the style. And as I mentioned, this seems to be very typical of spaghetti westerns, to drop you in the middle of the story and give you bits and pieces throughout to catch you up, so it's no surprise that he used the same technique in this film.
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Old 12.28.2008, 06:58 PM   #8
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Just saw it, I enjoyed it. Tarantino however is terrible. AT least as the old man.
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Old 12.28.2008, 07:02 PM   #9
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He's just kinda terrible, period. Even his best movie (Reservoir Dogs) is a City on Fire ripoff.

The only thing I really respect Tarantino for is Rolling Thunder Pictures, which brought Sonatine, Hardcore Logo, Chungking Express, Mighty Peking Man, the Beyond, and a few other great films to American theaters...
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He's just kinda terrible, period. Even his best movie (Reservoir Dogs) is a City on Fire ripoff.

The only thing I really respect Tarantino for is Rolling Thunder Pictures, which brought Sonatine, Hardcore Logo, Chungking Express, Mighty Peking Man, the Beyond, and a few other great films to American theaters...

I wish Rolling Thunder itself would be released on DVD.

My favourite Tarantino film is Reservoir Dogs too, in fact it's the only one that I like apart from Kill Bill Vol. 1.
I know people say he ripped-off City On Fire, and, in terms of the plot, it's true but I think Reservoir Dogs is far, far superior: the acting (actors), dialogue, music... It's just so more entertaining to me.
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Old 12.28.2008, 08:00 PM   #11
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Right, I love Reservoir Dogs. I would just completely write it off for being a ripoff.... but it's too good! I think it has some amazing dialog and performances and was brilliantly directed. Harvey Keitel steals the show.
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