Was this wrong?

demonrail666 · 08.24.2008, 09:02 PM

Was the British olympic commission wrong to include Marcus Harvey's portrait 'Myra' as part of a presentation promoting Britain's hosting the 2012 games?

Obviously it was designed to pesent Britain as a 'happening' cultural centre, but is showcasing a painting of an infamous child murderer the right way to do it?

Here's the painting:

And here's a couple of links about the portrait, and Hindley herself. For those that aren't aware of the controversy surrounding either:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Harvey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myra_Hindley

MellySingsDoom · 08.24.2008, 09:05 PM

I've seen that painting in the flesh, and it's fairly dull, ersatz controversial nonsense. To address yer main question - no, it's an absurd idea, dreamt up by some coke-snorting wankers, who haven't thought for a second about the impact that this will have on the families of Lesley Ann Downey, Keith Bennett and Edward Evans.

demonrail666 · 08.24.2008, 09:21 PM

I agree. I don't mind the painting itself but an art gallery is not the same as a sports arena. Clearly a case of trendy Blairites getting 'down' by playing the controversy card. Expect some serious sackings in the next couple of days.

Pookie · 08.25.2008, 07:48 AM

Yes.

No.

Maybe.

PAULYBEE2656 · 08.25.2008, 07:56 AM

i pissed myself laughing when i heard this... seriously tho.. thats an unbelievable cock up by someone.. who thought that would be a good idea!!!!!

its like the irish tourist board showing a clip of the dublin bombings in 1974

funny out situation....

Alex's Trip · 08.25.2008, 08:14 AM

I thought the Britain presentation was really tacky.

gmku · 08.25.2008, 08:40 AM

Olympics in London. I can see it now, another series of Beatles reissues. Special commemorative Olympic LP pressings or some such shit. Christ.

floatingslowly · 08.25.2008, 08:43 AM

I hear Gacy's clowns are being used to promote the circus.

Tokolosh · 08.25.2008, 09:08 AM

No. I don't have a problem with it.
There's a big difference between an art piece and a booking photo.

08.25.2008, 09:10 AM

I don't care, it's a piece of crap anyway.

!@#$%! · 08.25.2008, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Obviously it was designed to pesent Britain as a 'happening' cultural centre, but is showcasing a painting of an infamous child murderer the right way to do it?

fuckin a right

nothing sez "culture" like child murder

thumbs up

ni'k · 08.25.2008, 01:57 PM

i'd hit it

This Is Not Here · 08.25.2008, 02:10 PM

It's with a degree of irony this is being discussed on this forum; cos hey- heres another one for you - was it 'right' for Raymond Pettibon to use an image of Maureen Hindley (Myra's sister and witness in trial) on the front cover of Sonic Youth's Goo?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1151/...09a8e7.jpg?v=0

!@#$%! · 08.25.2008, 02:12 PM

eh weve known this for decades please no rehashes awwwww

PAULYBEE2656 · 08.25.2008, 02:14 PM

ha! touchee and good point.......... they did americanized it tho i mean the type on the cover didnt say "i borrowd my sisters special friend it was drizzly and damp within a fortnight we told our mothers to "go away" and we went and drank some tea"

This Is Not Here · 08.25.2008, 02:14 PM

ha ha!!!

PAULYBEE2656 · 08.25.2008, 02:16 PM

i have to post this....

BLOUSE- ME OH MYRA

"POGO ON THAT YOU TWAT"

This Is Not Here · 08.25.2008, 02:17 PM

Ha, oh yes I'd forgotten about that; brilliant!

Glice · 08.25.2008, 02:40 PM

If it happened to represent the best of British art, the subject wouldn't matter. Having said that, the subject of the painting is always going to ruffle feathers. Ultimately, it's an insensitive oversight, but certainly not shitstorm-worthy.

demonrail666 · 08.25.2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice

If it happened to represent the best of British art, the subject wouldn't matter. Having said that, the subject of the painting is always going to ruffle feathers. Ultimately, it's an insensitive oversight, but certainly not shitstorm-worthy.

You're right, it isn't. But this was used in an event that had the world media as its target. (it appeared alongside David Beckham kicking a ball and Leona Lewis singing a song). The tabloids were always gonna create a shit-storm out of something like that. If i wear a nazi armband at an S&M club, I'm a kinky twat. If I wear one at a Jackie Mason concert, i'm just a prat.

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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Was the British olympic commission wrong to include Marcus Harvey's portrait 'Myra' as part of a presentation promoting Britain's hosting the 2012 games? Obviously it was designed to pesent Britain as a 'happening' cultural centre, but is showcasing a painting of an infamous child murderer the right way to do it? Here's the painting: And here's a couple of links about the portrait, and Hindley herself. For those that aren't aware of the controversy surrounding either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Harvey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myra_Hindley
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MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	I've seen that painting in the flesh, and it's fairly dull, ersatz controversial nonsense. To address yer main question - no, it's an absurd idea, dreamt up by some coke-snorting wankers, who haven't thought for a second about the impact that this will have on the families of Lesley Ann Downey, Keith Bennett and Edward Evans. __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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08.24.2008, 09:21 PM	#3
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	I agree. I don't mind the painting itself but an art gallery is not the same as a sports arena. Clearly a case of trendy Blairites getting 'down' by playing the controversy card. Expect some serious sackings in the next couple of days.
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Pookie invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,877	Yes. No. Maybe.
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PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	i pissed myself laughing when i heard this... seriously tho.. thats an unbelievable cock up by someone.. who thought that would be a good idea!!!!! its like the irish tourist board showing a clip of the dublin bombings in 1974 funny out situation.... __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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Alex's Trip invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,608	I thought the Britain presentation was really tacky. __________________ KALOPSIA
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gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	Olympics in London. I can see it now, another series of Beatles reissues. Special commemorative Olympic LP pressings or some such shit. Christ. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	I hear Gacy's clowns are being used to promote the circus.
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Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	No. I don't have a problem with it. There's a big difference between an art piece and a booking photo.
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08.25.2008, 09:10 AM	#10
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	I don't care, it's a piece of crap anyway.
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ni'k invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,360	i'd hit it
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This Is Not Here invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingston-Upon-Thames, London Posts: 2,586	It's with a degree of irony this is being discussed on this forum; cos hey- heres another one for you - was it 'right' for Raymond Pettibon to use an image of Maureen Hindley (Myra's sister and witness in trial) on the front cover of Sonic Youth's Goo? http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1151/...09a8e7.jpg?v=0 __________________ http://images.google.co.uk/url?sourc...zLTl_B146tcuiw ~~Record of the moment~~
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!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,560	eh weve known this for decades please no rehashes awwwww
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08.25.2008, 02:14 PM	#15
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	ha! touchee and good point.......... they did americanized it tho i mean the type on the cover didnt say "i borrowd my sisters special friend it was drizzly and damp within a fortnight we told our mothers to "go away" and we went and drank some tea" __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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This Is Not Here invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingston-Upon-Thames, London Posts: 2,586	ha ha!!! __________________ http://images.google.co.uk/url?sourc...zLTl_B146tcuiw ~~Record of the moment~~
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08.25.2008, 02:16 PM	#17
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	i have to post this.... BLOUSE- ME OH MYRA "POGO ON THAT YOU TWAT" __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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This Is Not Here invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingston-Upon-Thames, London Posts: 2,586	Ha, oh yes I'd forgotten about that; brilliant! __________________ http://images.google.co.uk/url?sourc...zLTl_B146tcuiw ~~Record of the moment~~
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