[SonicSam]

I've heard many different opinions on which album is better.

I'm going for loveless, because I think it flows better as an album, doesnt have one bad song on it and for the sheer musical iginuity of it.
Saying that isnt anything has the best song they ever wrote: Soft As Snow (But Warm Inside) what do you guys think?

[MellySingsDoom]

"Loveless" is a much more consistent album and has more of a unified feel to it, and the alvum where they finally seem to moor free of their shambling/60's songwriting roots.

[demonrail666]

Loveless is the more ambitious but has far too many fillers. would've been an absolute masterpiece if it'd been released as a four track EP or something.

[e_s_d]

Yeah, 'Soft as Snow...' has gotta be one of their top 3 best songs - in a way it sounds more original now production-wise than anything off Loveless. The Loveless sound has been copied so much.

[gmku]

I like Isn't Anything better, but I think both albums are awesome.

Another day, another My Bloody Valentine decision. I prefer Isn't Anything to Loveless, because the songs sound more 'wrong'. I haven't listened to it in a while, something like 3 years or so.

[SYRFox]

Both

[Rob Instigator]

LOVELESS


although isn;t anything is great shit. loveless is the pinacle. you can;t tell where the vocals start the guitars end the bass comes in etc, you can barely tell what are drums!

Am i the only one who thinks that Loveless is a fair bit overrated and gets tons of good press but doesn't sound half as fresh as its predecessor? It's not a bad album by any stretch of the imagination, sure, but sometimes i get the impression that the almost unanimous consensus seems heavily influenced by press claims that it is THE My Bloody Valentine album of choice.

[gmku]

Yeah, I think there's some hype that's contributed to its status. I remember loving it to death when it first came out though (back when the whole world did not know about it). I only discovered Isn't Anything years later, and while I still love Loveless, there's something about IA I like better. Maybe the more song-oriented approach. I don't know.

[demonrail666]

I never really liked either album that much. Feed Me with Your Kiss is probably my favourite thing by them.

[Rob Instigator]

sounding "fresh" is only possible if half a million other lesser acts did NOT steal your ideas and sounds and musical stylings.

loveless is the BEST

isn;t anything has half the songs are still leaning toward more standard rock riffage, as compared to loveless WALL OF FUZZ!!!!!

[gmku]

I think that's why I give IA the edge. It sounds more rooted in traditional songwriting but at the same time goes out there a bit.

It's a tiny edge, though. On any given day, Loveless might hit me as equal to or better than.

[Rob Instigator]

loveless makes me cry cuz I feel so good. isn't anything rocks though.

[Massassinated]

2 weeks ago it was Isn't anything. Today Loveless. It changes all the time.
Both are great anyway.
Is it true that the 1st album "This Is Your Bloody Valentine" is crap ? I never listened to it.

[SonicSam]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Loveless is the more ambitious but has far too many fillers. would've been an absolute masterpiece if it'd been released as a four track EP or something.

Dunno about that mate! If you want an EP that rules from that period, get the tremelo EP.

[NWRA]

This Is Your Bloody Valentine is poor. It sounds like the band (particularly Dave Conway, the singer at that time) are imitating The Cramps or The Birthday Party; imitating them badly. There are clips here (try Forever And Again, to hear their camp gothic sound at its worst).

However, their earlier work isn't all bad. The Sunny Sundae Smile EP also features Conway on vocals; he sings normally on it (in fact, he sounds like Shields), and its very, very good. The title track, Kiss The Eclipse and Paint A Rainbow are as good as anything from Isn't Anything/Loveless in my opinion.

Then, Conway left, and they made Ecstasy and Wine and so on...

[atsonicpark]

I actually don't think Loveless is very great. Shocker, I know, but I think it's the worst thing they recorded. Some great songs, awesome guitar textures, but damn if the drum sound isn't tinny as fuck, half of the songs are plodding and grungy (the whole middle of the album draaaaaaaaags, and Only Shallow is very overrated).. .sometimes, soon, when you sleep, what you want, and loomer are AMAZING, but the rest? eh...

On the other hand, Isn't Anything is amazing. Yeah, it has it's grungy song (Feed Me with Your KISS), but that is a fucking jam.
ALL the songs on Isnt Anything are creative, catchy, and dreamy.. the perfect encapsulation of what MBV did right.

Loveless is a masterpiece for a completely different reason, but it's more of a studio masterpiece, which doesn't thrill me as much as it used to. Back in the day, I dug the shit out of Loveless, but that was before hearing the EP's and Isn't Anything. Isn't Anything is perfect. Loveless... a dream, but god I will never understand how anyone can prefer it to the much more consistent and interesting Isn't Anything.

I also prefer On Avery Island to Airplane over the Sea....................

[StevOK]

Can't decide. *listens to bootlegs*

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

There is a certain mood that I have to be in to listen to Loveless.