[noisereductions]

1. In The Fishtank 9

Personally, I was never too crazy about it. I just think that with the size and combined talent of the ensemble, I find it frustrating that none of the tracks seem to ever find a form at all. I understand that that probably wasn't the point, but I just don't find myself returning to it often at all. I remember running into Thurston soon after its release and I mentioned it to him, and he hinted that he wasn't all that happy with the outcome.

2. Hidros 3

This I enjoy. Kim's vocal tracks remind me of "Contre Le Sexism," and Jim's work is rather interesting. Though it came out during the NURSE period, I find it has more of A THOUSAND LEAVES feel to it (in that it sounds somewhat akin to SYR2 and 3.)

[atsonicpark]

Both decent.

In other news, my computer's fucked. See ya guys later!!!!!!

[greedrex]

both shite

[o'connor]

hidros 3 is pretty cool. didn't someone here write a paper or review of it that was really good?

[Everyneurotic]

hidros 3 is fantastic, i love it; very atmospheric...it's like a more arthouse j'accuse.

i still need to purchase tons of in the fishtank volumes.

[marleypumpkin]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

hidros 3 is fantastic, i love it; very atmospheric...it's like a more arthouse j'accuse.

i still need to purchase tons of in the fishtank volumes.

Same here, I have vol. 9 of course, but the only other one I have is vol. 14 w/ Isis & Aereogramme. So, needles to say, I also would like to hear the rest of the series.

[Chris Lawrence]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

1. In The Fishtank 9

Personally, I was never too crazy about it. I just think that with the size and combined talent of the ensemble, I find it frustrating that none of the tracks seem to ever find a form at all. I understand that that probably wasn't the point, but I just don't find myself returning to it often at all. I remember running into Thurston soon after its release and I mentioned it to him, and he hinted that he wasn't all that happy with the outcome.

i agree w/ this. almost never listened to it.

2. Hidros 3

This I enjoy. Kim's vocal tracks remind me of "Contre Le Sexism," and Jim's work is rather interesting. Though it came out during the NURSE period, I find it has more of A THOUSAND LEAVES feel to it (in that it sounds somewhat akin to SYR2 and 3.)

it was recorded in october 2000 at the end of the 'nyc ghosts' tour, so you're close w/ thousand leaves. if you haven't read the stories behind those shows, take a look in the concert chronology. interesting ideas.

edit: just reread those entries myself, wow! they should release every night!

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by o'connor

hidros 3 is pretty cool. didn't someone here write a paper or review of it that was really good?

I'd like to read this.

[shabbray2.0]

me too. me too.

still diggin ITF for sounding exatly like you would put the yoof into: a fishtank

[Newfoundland]

I kind of have a problem with the idea that the musicians didnt hear each other on Hidros 3. Did not enjoy it very much, But then again I havent listened to it in probably 4 years, so I should revisit i guess.

Another one that rarely gets mentioned (correct me if Im wrong..) is
the Thurston/Flaherty/Corsano/Shoup record called The Roadhouse Sessions Vol. 1

More in a Free Jazz / Dream Aktion mode. Great stuff.
Anyone heard?

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

1. In The Fishtank 9

Personally, I was never too crazy about it. I just think that with the size and combined talent of the ensemble, I find it frustrating that none of the tracks seem to ever find a form at all. I understand that that probably wasn't the point, but I just don't find myself returning to it often at all. I remember running into Thurston soon after its release and I mentioned it to him, and he hinted that he wasn't all that happy with the outcome.

2. Hidros 3

This I enjoy. Kim's vocal tracks remind me of "Contre Le Sexism," and Jim's work is rather interesting. Though it came out during the NURSE period, I find it has more of A THOUSAND LEAVES feel to it (in that it sounds somewhat akin to SYR2 and 3.)

I think "VI" and "X" are quite good (they both ends the vinyl sides). They are the most structured pieces in that album. The whole album is ok, but it´s not also my favourite Sonic album. I listen it sometimes, when I need chaotic music (maybe four times a year). I haven´t got Hidros and never heard it.

[noisereductions]

Hidros is really cool.

[ann ashtray]

In The Fishtank 9 - Leans a bit close to the "boring" side of the fence. I remember thinking (before it was released) that it sounded promising, considering the talent involved. Then I bought it and felt a bit disappointed.The thing just goes nowhere. Sounds too much like improv for the sake of improve which is (almost...) always boring. Doesn't take too many directions, kinda feels the same way from begining to end.

Hidros 3 - FANTASTIC! I love the utter-strutter-weird-creepiness of Kim's vocals. + Mats G.'s contrabass sax sneakin' in and out, sounding like a a small prairie creature being sodomized by a Hippo. Very colorful record, full of surprises....Vulgar and fun and bloody and pretty and all sorts of this 'n thats. And that thank you section in the liner notes, probably the largest I've ever seen. Mats seems to dig almost everything, not a bad thing.

[toxic johnny]

I must admit that I haven't played Fishtank in a very long time. This has inspired me to start spinning it again. i will re-evaluate and report back.

Hidros 3 is one of my all time favourites. Whatever happened to the promised Jim O'Rourke remixed vinyl version ?

[Toilet & Bowels]

i haven't listened to either record in years, in the fishtank probably listened to last time in 2004, i like it, but i guess not that much to actually pull it out at any time in the last 6 years.
hidros 3 - i just don't like mats gustaffson

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by toxic johnny

Hidros 3 is one of my all time favourites. Whatever happened to the promised Jim O'Rourke remixed vinyl version ?

I've never heard of this?

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

i just don't like mats gustaffson

often I feel the same. But I do like Hidros 3

[toxic johnny]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

I've never heard of this?

I remember reading about it on the Smalltown Supersound website. But I got this from the excellent Jim O' Filmography and Discography page...

Mats Gustafsson
Hidros 3
CD (Smalltown Supersound) 2004
LP (Smalltown Supersound) forthcoming
O’Rourke is credited with “live mix” and “making it work”
the LP will be released in 2005 and will be a different mix, made by O’Rourke; according to the label’s website “in many ways this will be a new and different album than the CD that is out now”

I need to have this, it's such a shame that it didn't see the light of day.

[mil_pl]

In the fishtank - III track is just awesome, I'm listening to it from time to time, but I don't like much the rest so I agree with the above.

Hidros3 is not for my ears, nothing interesting is going on in all that noise, fails. One short moment that I admire there is Part two (voice) minutes from 9:46 to when this awesome break with space ends.