so what is it about kim that you like?

Derek · 11.13.2011, 06:12 PM

Not starting a flame war or trying to be a dick but I'm just interested exactly what the reasons for her fanbase was.

I mean, in my opinion, she is the weakest musician in the band, her art has no complexity and her feminist ideals seem shallow and vapid. So what is it about her?

nicfit · 11.13.2011, 06:16 PM

r u jealous?

E. Noisefield · 11.13.2011, 07:18 PM

1. She's incredibly hot... before I got married I told my wife that I would fuck Kim if I ever had the opportunity. She consented.
2. Voice.
3. She's written some incredible lyrics, and vocal melodies, amelodic though many may be. She's a female Lou Reed with a better social circle (see LULU thread)
4. She's a kind person, and was gracious and humble and conversational when I met her.

Also, I don't think she's vapid. I think she's a dreamy, dreary art-school girl. I've known many of them. They may not be the quickest of human beings on the surface, but they have a lot to offer the world.

As far as her musical ability is concerned, yeah- she's not a virtuoso. She's passable. But she's still a brilliant musician.

jennthebenn · 11.13.2011, 07:41 PM

Attitude. Style. Creativity trumping technical ability.

vulva · 11.13.2011, 07:51 PM

Kim Althea Gordon (born April 28, 1953, Rochester, New York[1]) is an American musician, vocalist, artist, record producer, video director and actress. She has sung and played bass and guitar in the alternative rock band Sonic Youth, and in Free Kitten with Julia Cafritz (of Pussy Galore). Gordon has collaborated with a number of musicians, including Ikue Mori, DJ Olive, William Winant, Lydia Lunch, Courtney Love, Alan Licht and Chris Corsano.

E. Noisefield · 11.13.2011, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

she's what every woman should be. If that moaning and groaning in "Eliminator Jr" doesn't turn you on, then you are not a man.

Agreed, double agreed, and quoted for truth.

Hey Kim, I'm a rich-poor boy! Might I do the same??

ann ashtray · 11.13.2011, 09:27 PM

Eliminator Jr is about a girl that got raped. Kim's vocals are pretty sexy on that one though

ann ashtray · 11.13.2011, 09:33 PM

Take A Walk In The Park Shhhhit Yeaaaah

static-harmony · 11.13.2011, 09:50 PM

Just watch the 1983 Poiters performance of making the nature scene.

EVOLghost · 11.13.2011, 09:56 PM

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh What DON'T I like about Kim.

logicalharm · 11.13.2011, 09:59 PM

She's just very...herself. She's not the most talented musician, and she knows it completely and is unapologetic about it.

Mortte Jousimo · 11.14.2011, 04:32 AM

To me each member of SY is as important. I think in SY really is hard to say what certain invidual do in it. On the other hand I think it´s not totally impossible to replace anyone of them, maybe Thurston is the one that is not very easy to replace.

Pelle · 11.14.2011, 06:58 AM

Well, she's beautiful, makes great lyrics, poetry, art and play in the best fucking band in the whole world.
Nuff said.

themawt71 · 11.14.2011, 10:08 AM

a lot of her bass lines are simple but perfect.

pajjr · 11.14.2011, 10:17 AM

Her voice is an irriplacable part of many of the best sonic youth songs in my opinion.... plus I saw sonic youth back in the day and they could not have been better.

E. Noisefield · 11.14.2011, 10:24 AM

I saw them "back in the day" (relatively) and recently, and many times in between. The era doesn't matter, Kim is as vital to SY as Thurston or Lee. She is an integral part of their sound.

Another Beatles comparison- sorry - but she's SY's Mccartney. No, it's not Lee. He's the Harrison... the musical genius who occasionally gets tossed a song to sing that blows everyone away. But Kim is absolutely essential for SY.

They couldn't replace her, no more than the Beatles could have reunited in the 90s without John. No more than Nirvana can reunite.

11.16.2011, 03:20 AM

Title says it all really. What are you sick of in modern games? and what would you like to see in new ones?
Im famously sick of FMV, voiceovers, fullscreen-only games, busty elves, RPG and cyberpunk cliches etc etc. What about you?

EVOLghost · 11.16.2011, 03:55 AM

wow....these bots are really out of control...

_slavo_ · 11.16.2011, 05:07 AM

Tits.

knox · 11.16.2011, 06:54 AM

I think her "feminist" ideals are very solid and despite having an influence on her writing, she hasn't necessarily been writing them as a political statement, it's still very much art. I could totally relate to it when I was younger. Sadly, I often get this impression from SY fans, nobody has been listening to these messages. In general, people like the fact that she is herself. As for being the weakest musician, probably from a technical point of view, but I don't believe that is the most important aspect of it all. Her contribution has been essential.

11.13.2011, 06:12 PM	#1
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Not starting a flame war or trying to be a dick but I'm just interested exactly what the reasons for her fanbase was. I mean, in my opinion, she is the weakest musician in the band, her art has no complexity and her feminist ideals seem shallow and vapid. So what is it about her?
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nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	r u jealous? __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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11.13.2011, 07:18 PM	#3
E. Noisefield the end of the ugly Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In the hearts of men Posts: 869	1. She's incredibly hot... before I got married I told my wife that I would fuck Kim if I ever had the opportunity. She consented. 2. Voice. 3. She's written some incredible lyrics, and vocal melodies, amelodic though many may be. She's a female Lou Reed with a better social circle (see LULU thread) 4. She's a kind person, and was gracious and humble and conversational when I met her. Also, I don't think she's vapid. I think she's a dreamy, dreary art-school girl. I've known many of them. They may not be the quickest of human beings on the surface, but they have a lot to offer the world. As far as her musical ability is concerned, yeah- she's not a virtuoso. She's passable. But she's still a brilliant musician.
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11.13.2011, 07:41 PM	#4
jennthebenn expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,261	Attitude. Style. Creativity trumping technical ability. __________________ http://jennthebenn.tumblr.com/
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11.13.2011, 07:51 PM	#5
vulva the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,041	Kim Althea Gordon (born April 28, 1953, Rochester, New York[1]) is an American musician, vocalist, artist, record producer, video director and actress. She has sung and played bass and guitar in the alternative rock band Sonic Youth, and in Free Kitten with Julia Cafritz (of Pussy Galore). Gordon has collaborated with a number of musicians, including Ikue Mori, DJ Olive, William Winant, Lydia Lunch, Courtney Love, Alan Licht and Chris Corsano. __________________ "The mind splits open and the world falls in." -- Euripides
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11.13.2011, 09:27 PM	#7
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	Eliminator Jr is about a girl that got raped. Kim's vocals are pretty sexy on that one though __________________ Team Thurston!
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ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	Take A Walk In The Park Shhhhit Yeaaaah __________________ Team Thurston!
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static-harmony invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: outside L.A Posts: 5,156	Just watch the 1983 Poiters performance of making the nature scene. __________________
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EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh What DON'T I like about Kim.
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logicalharm little trouble girl Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 79	She's just very...herself. She's not the most talented musician, and she knows it completely and is unapologetic about it.
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11.14.2011, 04:32 AM	#12
Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	To me each member of SY is as important. I think in SY really is hard to say what certain invidual do in it. On the other hand I think it´s not totally impossible to replace anyone of them, maybe Thurston is the one that is not very easy to replace.
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11.14.2011, 06:58 AM	#13
Pelle expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,725	Well, she's beautiful, makes great lyrics, poetry, art and play in the best fucking band in the whole world. Nuff said.
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themawt71 the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 570	a lot of her bass lines are simple but perfect.
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pajjr empty page Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1	Her voice is an irriplacable part of many of the best sonic youth songs in my opinion.... plus I saw sonic youth back in the day and they could not have been better.
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E. Noisefield the end of the ugly Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In the hearts of men Posts: 869	I saw them "back in the day" (relatively) and recently, and many times in between. The era doesn't matter, Kim is as vital to SY as Thurston or Lee. She is an integral part of their sound. Another Beatles comparison- sorry - but she's SY's Mccartney. No, it's not Lee. He's the Harrison... the musical genius who occasionally gets tossed a song to sing that blows everyone away. But Kim is absolutely essential for SY. They couldn't replace her, no more than the Beatles could have reunited in the 90s without John. No more than Nirvana can reunite.
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11.16.2011, 03:20 AM	#17
Mirzza Posts: n/a	Title says it all really. What are you sick of in modern games? and what would you like to see in new ones? Im famously sick of FMV, voiceovers, fullscreen-only games, busty elves, RPG and cyberpunk cliches etc etc. What about you?
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EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	wow....these bots are really out of control...
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_slavo_ invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ðîññèÿ Posts: 10,908	Tits. __________________ you're the boy that can enjoy invisibility
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11.16.2011, 06:54 AM	#20
knox invito al cielo Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,255	I think her "feminist" ideals are very solid and despite having an influence on her writing, she hasn't necessarily been writing them as a political statement, it's still very much art. I could totally relate to it when I was younger. Sadly, I often get this impression from SY fans, nobody has been listening to these messages. In general, people like the fact that she is herself. As for being the weakest musician, probably from a technical point of view, but I don't believe that is the most important aspect of it all. Her contribution has been essential. __________________
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