Go Back   Sonic Youth Gossip > Sonic Gossip
Reload this Page "Shake Dog Shake" influenced a Sonic Youth song?
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read

 
Thread Tools
Old 05.03.2007, 04:52 PM   #1
Asim
little trouble girl
 
Asim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 51
Asim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to all
Sorry if this doesn't really belong here!

The Cure song, I mean, one AMG reviewer said "Never thought there was a Cure song so extreme and on the edge that even Sonic Youth paid indirect tribute to it in one of their own songs? Think again."

Does anyone have an idea what song he was referring to? Maybe it was during a concert? I always thought the Fat Man & Co. had an influence on SY.
Asim is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 05.03.2007, 06:51 PM   #2
auto-aim
the destroyed room
 
auto-aim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wales
Posts: 650
auto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's assesauto-aim kicks all y'all's asses
I dont know... but to be honest a lot of that album is pretty trippy - not so much shake dog shake - but I love stuff like bananafishbones, I think it is. my mind is somewhere else at the moment. A lot of afficianodos dont like the cure i think - which i think is dumb. That being said they're contemporaries too... its easy to think the cure are a much older band - but they're not really by that much.
__________________


 


His Naked Torso
auto-aim is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 05.03.2007, 07:18 PM   #3
CHOUT
invito al cielo
 
CHOUT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Minneapolis MN
Posts: 3,128
CHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's assesCHOUT kicks all y'all's asses
Shake Dog Shake came out after Shaking Hell, if that's the song I assume they are alluding to.
__________________
Chout's rare Sonic Youth vids:
http://youtube.com/SONICchout



CHOUT is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 05.03.2007, 08:51 PM   #4
ohfuchsia
little trouble girl
 
ohfuchsia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 75
ohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHOUT
Shake Dog Shake came out after Shaking Hell, if that's the song I assume they are alluding to.
sonic youth and the cure are my 2 favourite bands and i never noticed any similarity with shake dog shake and sonic youth... and o'd like to think i would know..hehe..what sonic song are they tlaking about? somethin post 1984 obviously..
ohfuchsia is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 05.04.2007, 04:04 PM   #5
Asim
little trouble girl
 
Asim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 51
Asim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to allAsim is a name known to all
Oh darn, I was thinking they might've referring to Shaking Hell. After all, the site makes a lot of mistakes.

thanks chout.
Asim is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 05.04.2007, 05:42 PM   #6
jetengine
children of satan
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 399
jetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's assesjetengine kicks all y'all's asses
"Hendrix Necro" off the 100% 12"/CD single. During the somewhat tumultuous middle section, Kim chants "Shake, dog shake" several times.

Smith and The Cure have definitely been influenced by Sonic Youth over the years, as well. The Wish album (1992), in particular, appealed to me as bearing quite a few earmarks of Sonic Youth and avant-noise/grunge in general. Also, both groups over the years have been given to veering off into the dark realm of goth on various albums--e.g., Seventeen Seconds, Faith, Pornography, Confusion Is Sex, much of EVOL and A Thousand Leaves, Blood Flowers, etc.
jetengine is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 05.05.2007, 04:52 AM   #7
ohfuchsia
little trouble girl
 
ohfuchsia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 75
ohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's assesohfuchsia kicks all y'all's asses
i read an interview where robert smith said he didn't like sonic youth (silly boy) so i'm not sure their influence on him. i don't think he hated them, the interviewer was just naming bands and he was saying yes or no. the quote "too clever" comes to mind but i can't remember whether that was in regards to the youth or REM.
ohfuchsia is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 05.05.2007, 06:22 AM   #8
Dues
little trouble girl
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 80
Dues is a name known to allDues is a name known to allDues is a name known to allDues is a name known to allDues is a name known to allDues is a name known to all
It's actually off topic (has nothing to do with a Cure~SY connection), but the lyrics of Shaking Hell seem to drive back to the Shaker religion. That is, if we may believe Dan Graham:

My Religion, Extract from a work tape: Ann Lee
__________________


The true test, after all, is to be like everyone else. Once that happens, he no longer has to question his singularity. He is free—not only of others, but of himself.

Dues is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 08.01.2008, 08:50 AM   #9
tasteinmen
bad moon rising
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 213
tasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's assestasteinmen kicks all y'all's asses
i also thought the wish had some SY sounds in it, especially in the beginning of from the edge of the deep green sea
tasteinmen is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 08.01.2008, 10:21 AM   #10
RanaldoNecro
expwy. to yr skull
 
RanaldoNecro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Eye Of The Squirrel
Posts: 1,481
RanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's asses
IMHO, there is a connection between The Cure and SY. Its easy to dimiss them as later day pop band but the early stuff on Seventeen Seconds, 10:15 Saturday night really bears a resemblance to the 1982 debut.

Minimal bass, screetching guitars....bauhaus type vibe
__________________
He is not Alone
RanaldoNecro is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 08.01.2008, 10:48 AM   #11
Rob Instigator
invito al cielo
 
Rob Instigator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In the land of the Instigator
Posts: 27,976
Rob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's asses
"too clever" is what stupid people say when they don't get it
__________________
RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
Rob Instigator is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 08.01.2008, 10:48 AM   #12
Rob Instigator
invito al cielo
 
Rob Instigator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: In the land of the Instigator
Posts: 27,976
Rob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's assesRob Instigator kicks all y'all's asses
just like "You think too much."
__________________
RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
Rob Instigator is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 08.01.2008, 11:20 AM   #13
noisereductions
invito al cielo
 
noisereductions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England, USA
Posts: 16,210
noisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's assesnoisereductions kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro
10:15 Saturday night really bears a resemblance to the 1982 debut.

Always thought the same!
noisereductions is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 08.01.2008, 11:26 AM   #14
SuperCreep
expwy. to yr skull
 
SuperCreep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: brooklyn
Posts: 2,281
SuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's assesSuperCreep kicks all y'all's asses
Errr...I can't possibly think what "indirect tribute" that reviewer is talking about. The only similarity I've ever made between is SY and The Cure is that I Dreamed I Dream sounds like it could be on Seventeen Seconds or Faith. Other than that, both bands couldn't be more different.
__________________
 

 
SuperCreep is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 08.01.2008, 11:43 AM   #15
Bertrand
expwy. to yr skull
 
Bertrand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Rennes, France
Posts: 1,268
Bertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's assesBertrand kicks all y'all's asses
Connecting to the thread via the Shake element, I never saw much of The Cure in Sonic Youth and vice versa.

But it comes to Shaking Hell, a pal put some of his music in his car and one song clicked.

At 1'30" or so, the repetition of shake... shake... with a prolonged shhhhh and an abrupt ake made it impossible for me no to link that Sonic Youth track to KC & the Sunshine Band's Shake Your Booty :

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=vGjmDTvuNLM

And I mean it.

And I'd like the Youth to blend both songs together one day.
- Who am I to have hope for that?
Bertrand is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 08.01.2008, 08:00 PM   #16
RanaldoNecro
expwy. to yr skull
 
RanaldoNecro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Eye Of The Squirrel
Posts: 1,481
RanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's assesRanaldoNecro kicks all y'all's asses
I always found a resemblance between Robert Smith & TV's Alice...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5kk067ZYt-A

She says golden..What does she mean?
__________________
He is not Alone
RanaldoNecro is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|


Thread Tools

All content ©2006 Sonic Youth