[EVOLghost]

Of course he does. He's like 80.

[EVOLghost]

nevermind.

[louder]

Originally Posted by EVOLghost

Of course he does. He's like 80.

and he can still pull more beautiful Indian and Pakistani ladies than i would in my lifetime. yes i'm mad.

[knox]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

in response to your second question: that is enough to let me know how you feel. It does not dictate whether or not I should have said what I said, or whether I was "right" or "wrong" in doing so. That is a very slippery slope you describe.

It does dictate your idea of how much you should concerned with other people.
It also displays a very individualistic point of view, in which your personal desire to do something should be more important to you than the consequences of this thing or how it ressonates with others. Ironically, there's no individuality in thinking that way.

Also, wrong. If you say something discriminatory, it's wrong. If you do something that invades someone's personal space, it's wrong.

If somebody speaks up asking you to stop reinforcing their opression and you ignore them, that's wrong.

No matter how much you try to sugarcoat it in some really twisted explanation of your idea of "freedom of speech" or the disturbing belief that words and messages cannot be acts of violence.

[louder]

jesus christ..

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by knox

It does dictate your idea of how much you should concerned with other people.
It also displays a very individualistic point of view, in which your personal desire to do something should be more important to you than the consequences of this thing or how it ressonates with others. Ironically, there's no individuality in thinking that way.

Also, wrong. If you say something discriminatory, it's wrong. If you do something that invades someone's personal space, it's wrong.

If somebody speaks up asking you to stop reinforcing their opression and you ignore them, that's wrong.

No matter how much you try to sugarcoat it in some really twisted explanation of your idea of "freedom of speech" or the disturbing belief that words and messages cannot be acts of violence.

the marketplace of ideas rejects the totalitarian argument by which your status as a victim imbues you with a moral superiority that entitles you to ban speech

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by EVOLghost

Of course he does. He's like 80.

I'm going to go ahead and add "age" to your horrifying list of 'isms.

You prick.

[louder]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

I'm going to go ahead and add "age" to your horrifying list of 'isms.

You prick.

"it's gross."

[knox]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

the marketplace of ideas rejects the totalitarian argument by which your status as a victim imbues you with the moral superiority that entitles you to ban speech

banning speech, lol.
yeah, sorry i come from a world where to say something racist to someone is a crime. it doesn't seem that people feel like they're dying without the 'right' to hurt other people with words.

yet i'm not the one trying to ban speech, seems like it's other people who are trying to tell me i should be silent about things i don't like.
so this "freedom of speech" is just for the one saying discriminatory stuff, never for the one who raise his/her voice.

when i utilize my freedom of speech to tell you how much of a selfish asshole i think you're being, then i'm a totalitarian trying to restrict your freedom?

is it not embarassing to borrow arguments from racist conservatives? just wondering.

i think even you know how much of a fail that argument is.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by knox

banning speech, lol.
yeah, sorry i come from a world where to say something racist to someone is a crime. it doesn't seem that people feel like they're dying without the 'right' to hurt other people with words.
yet i'm not the one trying to ban speech, seems like it's other people who are trying to tell me i should be silent about things i don't like.
so this "freedom of speech" is just for the one saying discriminatory stuff, never for the one who raise his/her voice.

when i utilize my freedom of speech to tell you how much of a selfish asshole i think you're being, then i'm a totalitarian trying to restrict their freedom.

is it not embarassing to borrow arguments from racist conservatives? just wondering.

i think even you know how much of a fail that argument is.

you can call me a selfish asshole and make all kinds of crybaby arguments, and i may respond in kind, or ignore you, or just skip your threads, but i'm not going to deny your right to say whatever manner of stupid shit you want, even if it's a load of maoist bollocks.

[Rob Instigator]

I guess you are not big on "people-watching" huh knox? Life is very very short, and I think your energies are better served aimed at someone who is actually doing harm, active harm (and there are MANY) than at some guy on a message board talking about how there are so many gorgeous women at the Library.

[knox]

and you can say all that but that doesn't make you any less of a selfish asshole.

i'm not sure about it, but i think you just tried to call me a commie? lol.

seriously, thanks for making me laugh.

my day has been really shitty, and that was the cliche-cherry on top of your argument.

[knox]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I guess you are not big on "people-watching" huh knox? Life is very very short, and I think your energies are better served aimed at someone who is actually doing harm, active harm (and there are MANY) than at some guy on a message board talking about how there are so many gorgeous women at the Library.

Life is very short to shut up about shit that eats you up inside and makes your life suck.

I find it really tiring how people always get defensive and will go to any possible length to always find excuses for themselves for not trying to be better people.

Poor thing, and you accuse me of playing the "victim" card? We shouldn't be saying anything about the guy who objectifies women with a racist twist, we should be grateful that he's not punching us or something.

The fact that people do worse things doesn't make you right when you do something wrong.

[knox]

Now, if you excuse me, this conversation has taken a whole dark, disturbing new meaning in my mood today as I just got a phone call from a friend who passed out drunk in one of our friends sofa and woke up with two friends touching her breast. Now, if that wasn't twisted enough, I just read an e-mail in which he says he did that out of love and there are many guys who do much worse things out there, so she shouldn't be picking him on him because she's just being "uptight".

Maybe I should introduce him to Suchfriends so they can discuss how "sexual harrasment only happens when harm is done to the body"? I'm sure he'd appreciate to hear that.

And she's also a lesbian and her girlfriend was in the bathroom.

So I'm just gonna go get some beer and think about how much denial sucks.

And how much I wish all the people who try to silence people who actually raise their voices should fuck off.

[louder]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I guess you are not big on "people-watching" huh knox? Life is very very short, and I think your energies are better served aimed at someone who is actually doing harm, active harm (and there are MANY) than at some guy on a message board talking about how there are so many gorgeous women at the Library.

this. i can't take her seriously at all.

i imagine the trollface every time i read her posts.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by knox

Now, if you excuse me, this conversation has taken a whole dark, disturbing new meaning in my mood today as I just got a phone call from a friend who passed out drunk in one of our friends sofa and woke up with two friends touching her breast. Now, if that wasn't twisted enough, I just read an e-mail in which he says he did that out of love and there are many guys who do much worse things out there, so she shouldn't be picking him on him because she's just being "uptight".

Maybe I should introduce him to Suchfriends so they can discuss how "sexual harrasment only happens when harm is done to the body"? I'm sure he'd appreciate to hear that.

And she's also a lesbian and her girlfriend was in the bathroom.

So I'm just gonna go get some beer and think about how much denial sucks.

And how much I wish all the people who try to silence people who actually raise their voices should fuck off.

of course to disagree with knox is to support the sexual molestation of unconscious people.

call me a cynic, but i'd put money on this shit being totally made up for the purpose of "winning" this discussion.

[floatingslowly]

I used to think the universe would deal with these people. Now, I just use black magick.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by knox

Now, if you excuse me, this conversation has taken a whole dark, disturbing new meaning in my mood today as I just got a phone call from a friend who passed out drunk in one of our friends sofa and woke up with two friends touching her breast. Now, if that wasn't twisted enough, I just read an e-mail in which he says he did that out of love and there are many guys who do much worse things out there, so she shouldn't be picking him on him because she's just being "uptight".

Maybe I should introduce him to Suchfriends so they can discuss how "sexual harrasment only happens when harm is done to the body"? I'm sure he'd appreciate to hear that.

And she's also a lesbian and her girlfriend was in the bathroom.

So I'm just gonna go get some beer and think about how much denial sucks.

And how much I wish all the people who try to silence people who actually raise their voices should fuck off.

Now there is some shit that needs to be adressed! fucking horrible people. I deal with this happening to my friends and my family, and it always makes me sick.

I never said you should not say your piece knox. I just found it to be misguided.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

I used to think the universe would deal with these people. Now, I just use black magick.

why not use pepper spray, it's a lot more effective

 

[knox]

you truly are pathetic.
fuck off.