Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

matador were good in the 90s, but aside from times new viking all their new stuff is rubbish. plus, on top of dropping bardo pond they also got rid of solex, keep unsane's first record OOP, & almost killed siltbreeze

Matador has been rarely been a good label at all. So incosistent it makes you turn your head the other way without batting an eyelid.

[atsonicpark]

At least we can say this about Matador: They really care about people's opinions on them.

...

They must have a low self-esteem.

[Moshe]

This is getting out of hand:

http://www.aversion.com:80/news/news...?news_id=11440
Matador's Cosly Apologies for Acting Like Tony Victory

Sep 24, 2008

Want to know one of Matador Records' secrets to running an independent label? Don't be that guy from Victory Records.
In the wake of some sort of message-board melodrama that's, frankly, even less interesting than it is mature, Matador's Gerard Cosloy issued a long and, remarkably, less interesting than the original melodrama, apology for said melodrama. We'll skip the long-winded stories other than to say Cosloy took issue with the way users of a Sonic Youth message board were painting Matador Records' treatment of its bands. In the process of his apology, Cosly revealed the label sets its moral compass partially by avoid Victory-like tantrums and tactics -- something he forgot this time around.
"People sometimes ask me, 'what's the most important lesson you, Chris and Patrick have learned from Tony Victory" and after I look him up on Google to make sure I don't get him mixed up with Tony Curtis, I reply that we're all about respecting the audience's intelligence.
"ie. whatever we observe Tony doing, we try to do the opposite."

[Everyneurotic]

that's why i hate label worship/hatred.

it's incredibly dumb.

[Cantankerous]

cosloy just comes off as a fuckign tool. every time.

[uhler]

hahahaha i can't believe people in the indie record industry abide to not be like tony victory. this guy that i work with is an ex straight edger from chicago (we always talk about the "good ol' days" at work) and he told me tony victory likes to have threesomes in bathrooms after snorting lots of coke and he got thrown thru a car windshield once. he now has bodyguards.

[Cantankerous]

tony victory sounds like a good time.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Originally Posted by Dead-Air

I just hope Gerard was reading my suggestion that he put together a Mission of Burma/SY tour as well!

I hope so.

I hope he also read where I said "that would be awesome if it comes to Pittsburgh."

[uhler]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

tony victory sounds like a good time.

actually maybe cosloy SHOULD act more like him.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Originally Posted by Moshe

This is getting out of hand:

http://www.aversion.com:80/news/news...?news_id=11440
Matador's Cosly Apologies for Acting Like Tony Victory

Sep 24, 2008

Want to know one of Matador Records' secrets to running an independent label? Don't be that guy from Victory Records.
In the wake of some sort of message-board melodrama that's, frankly, even less interesting than it is mature, Matador's Gerard Cosloy issued a long and, remarkably, less interesting than the original melodrama, apology for said melodrama. We'll skip the long-winded stories other than to say Cosloy took issue with the way users of a Sonic Youth message board were painting Matador Records' treatment of its bands. In the process of his apology, Cosly revealed the label sets its moral compass partially by avoid Victory-like tantrums and tactics -- something he forgot this time around.
"People sometimes ask me, 'what's the most important lesson you, Chris and Patrick have learned from Tony Victory" and after I look him up on Google to make sure I don't get him mixed up with Tony Curtis, I reply that we're all about respecting the audience's intelligence.
"ie. whatever we observe Tony doing, we try to do the opposite."

Wow, I didn't think what he said was all that big of a deal.

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by uhler

actually maybe cosloy SHOULD act more like him.

cosloy can go fuck himself

where can i find this tony victory character?

[Everyneurotic]

cantanks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Records

[Cantankerous]

chicago?!

plenty of coked up sluts without having to go to chicago. sry tony.


oh. not to mention.


every band on victory ever is FUCKING SHIT.

[Villain Bird]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

cosloy can go fuck himself

where can i find this tony victory character?

Why don't you look up yr ass!

SWQUUUUUAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW


KAAWWWWWFFFUUCCKKKAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

 

[Cantankerous]

my ass is exit only.


next.

[HaydenAsche]

Funny.

[Villain Bird]

Hello

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

WHO HASN'T?

they just suck is all.

i mean they dont' if you like that kind of trite anodyne singsong, but fuck, i have no patience, and trust me, i have tried to give them some credit cuz a lot of hipsters claim to like them, but fuck, no, i can't stand them.

i mean how the fuck can you like this bloodless shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQHstA0cZDw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj6Qi...eature=related

shit shit shit pure shit. fucking neuter music.

--

i tried to be polite in my original dissing, but i have little patience as a general rule.

Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain can get old after a few listens, granted.

But Wowee Zowee and Brighten the Corners never get old for me.

[uhler]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

chicago?!

plenty of coked up sluts without having to go to chicago. sry tony.


oh. not to mention.


every band on victory ever is FUCKING SHIT.

i used to like some of the bands (snapcase, earth crisis and a few others). but now they are just shits and giggles. their new roster is the worst shit ever.

i don't count deadguy as a victory band.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I love how these threads are so predictable.

Everyone goes crazy about the original topic, then there's some craziness and quietness and off-topic until someone makes a comment about the state of the board or the thread. That becomes the topic of the thread until some new developement sends people into a whirl.

Then there's a bunch more posts about the state of the thread or the state of this message board (like this one and floatingslowly's which usually start with "I love how..."), a few people laughing or being smartasses for a while, then the thread dying.

Until about a week later when it gets bumped, gets about 3 more replies.

3 months later, it gets bumped again, with someone going "haha." and someone else going "Why did you bump this?" and me going "Yes!"

Then it's forgotten until about 6 months later when someone goes "remember that thread where we said fuck matador a bunch? Wasn't that funny?" And someone bumps this thread again with "bump " and no one replies.

Carry on.

It's kind of depressing isn't it?

That's why I generally stay away from these sorts of threads.