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Originally Posted by tw2113

I've seen Valley Girl before though it's been awhile. Just another loosely based on Shakespeare.

idk, they threw romeo and juliet around in the dialogue a couple of times but i really missed the suicides, hahahah. there were also very on the nose references to the graduate that weren't really developed. this was a disjointed nonsensical story with highly inconsistent characterization, so at times it was impossible to figure out what was going on. a pity really, because the premise allowed for a lot more. but anyway i'll stop the hate now lolol.

Originally Posted by Severian

The only remotely good Hellraiser movies!

i don't think there's such a thing...

hahahahha i can't help myself... sorry. but honest opinion, no trollin.

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oh, i recently rewatched david cronenberg's "rabid", featuring the immortal porn queen marilyn chambers. i wish she had been in more indie and mainstream films because she had talent.

 

just so fucking good, both she and the movie. yes that is a carrie poster in the frame hahaha.

[tw2113]

Originally Posted by Severian

The only remotely good Hellraiser movies!

Did you hear they’re doing a reboot or whatever on one of the streaming jobbers?

The only 2 with Julia as the villain, after that I believe they pivot to Pinhead. ( I need to see more of the rest. only done the first 2 so far).


Yes on the reboot-ish with a female actor playing the role this time around. haven't looked at it that closely though, don't need a pin through the eye

[TheDom]

RIP Jean-Luc Godard -

Throughout the years, I've cooled to a lot of JLG films, but his influence on my life and taste cannot be understated. I still remember finding out about JLG through this board (RIP atsonicpark). JLG was my gateway drug into cinema. I'll never forget the first time I saw films like Breathless, Vivre sa vie, and Pierrot le fou.

So rewatched three of his films since his passing. There are still very few films out there that are as alive as Breathless or A Woman is A Woman. But Vivre sa vie is in its own league. Sorry I don't have anything enlightening to say right now about this films, I am just enjoying revisiting some of these old favorites.

 

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my favorite godard is le mépris. because of the literary references and the glory that was brigitte bardot. and the cinematography was also great.

 

 

MORE: https://notesonfilm1.com/2019/12/26/...rds-le-mepris/

[Rob Instigator]

I have never enjoyed a Godard film.

49 yrs and counting.....

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I have never enjoyed a Godard film.

49 yrs and counting.....

well he's not going to make any more lol. i am not a fan either, although he was "important". massively influential, a bit like one might not like cubism but has to recognize that it changed painting.

but yeah maybe check out "contempt". it's the least "godard" and gimmicky oh his films hahaha. and it really looks amazing. alphaville was also very cool. i really liked alphaville, a tough guy who likes "gold and women" wrecks a computarized society with a revolver hahahah. i love it. cheaply made, stylish and poetic.

the other more didactic shit with people reading from books peddling theory marxism etc makes me impatient. nah, more than that it plain annoys me. buuut it featured some innovations. :/

[Rob Instigator]

I have tried and tried.

I have turned off, or stopped, at least 5 of his films.

I much prefer Ingmar Bergman. There is a guy who knew how to tell a story.

I can't stand plotless films. I only watch movies to see an entertaining story.
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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I have tried and tried.

I have turned off, or stopped, at least 5 of his films.

I much prefer Ingmar Bergman. There is a guy who knew how to tell a story.

I can't stand plotless films. I only watch movies to see an entertaining story.
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yeah those two i mentioned have stories. contempt is about an american film producer fucking with a movie adaptation of the odissey directed by fritz lang (the real fritz lang plays the director) and with the writer of the film whose girlfriend (bardot) he's trying to poach. and alphaville is a kinda science fiction film noir.

 

oh it's a actually a pistol not a revolver lol

but anyway, the other shit... eeeeh not my bag. but "important" for the film form. even stuff like 80s mtv owes him ha ha ha. but yeah, there's a lot of boring, plotless, didactic, obnoxious stuff hahaha. like when he has people reading whole chunks of books into the camera. fuck that shit hahhahahaha. i've never liked being read to, not even as a little kid. really pissed me off to sit there watching people read a book like a cuban cigar factory, but instead of classic novels it's a fucking theory book.

oh and

 

this famous bit of piled up cars that opens "weekend" (loooong traffic jam) was a straight ripoff from cortázar, only la autopista del sur was a better short story than godard's theory "lessons". but eh, it was the 60s or something, in its context maybe this film was better than it appears from here.

nevertheless, tldr: a great formal innovator

[TheDom]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

well he's not going to make any more lol. i am not a fan either, although he was "important". massively influential, a bit like one might not like cubism but has to recognize that it changed painting.

yup, this is it. i feel like this convo re: Godard has played out the same through out the years in this thread lol. i also cannot stomach the pedantic & didactic stuff he felt so compelled to make. i saw his last film, the image book, in a theatre and yeah... maybe i'm dense, but unpacking it did not feel fruitful.

but his best films have a certain compelling energy to them that i am still a sucker for. call it nostalgia. it was through Godard that I came to know Bergman, Fellini, BRESSON, countless others. Godard was a gateway drug into that whole world. i remember sitting and watching these films on an old tv/vhs hybrid, back when netflix streaming was new and it had everything on it (like all the Pasolini films). great memories of discovering cinema.

anyway...

the past week or so i worked through this box set

five easy pieces & the last picture show are 2 of my favorites. easy rider is what it is, and head i congratulate for just how weird and off-putting it must have been to the monkees fans who went to see it.

the other films are fun, but ultimately just full of energy with out much coherence. A Safe Place features a hilariously strange Orson Welles as a magician. this must have been around the time he was trying to get The Other Side of the Wind filmed.

 

[Severian]

The Black Phone. It wasn’t great by any measure.

[tw2113]

Dracula 1931, The Fearless Vampire Killers.

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Originally Posted by tw2113

The Fearless Vampire Killers.

fearless vampire killers is how one knew, early on, that polanski was going to embrace evil, hahahahahaaaa

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Did anyone ever see this movie Daddy Longlegs? It stars Lee's two sons and Leah Singer. It was made in 2009, this year it's released on Bluray.

https://www.criterion.com/films/29117-daddy-longlegs

[tw2113]

Hocus Pocus 2...it was alright. Not essential viewing even if you love the first one.

[Rob Instigator]

Watched Godfather two days ago.

The watched Godfather 2, yesterday.

Both good. 2nd one is sad. I had not seen them since early 20's so it was cool to go in fresh.

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on purpose (no joke) i watched REALITY BITES, which i hadn't seen since it came out.

i vaguely remember not liking it the first time, so this was an exercise in perspective, i mean self-torture, which i did just for lols.

i reached 3 conclusions:

1) the 90s were fucking embarrassing
2) i'm fucking old
3) i still don't like this movie but now i realize it was kids who made it so it's ok

also funny that winona was supposed to be the pretty one, but in the scenes they're together my eyes always go towards jeanine garofalo. she was the more interesting character really, and a livelier actor, it's just that the movie wasn't about her.

then while trying to find out why the fuck the movie was set in houston i found out about the woman who wrote it and realized that what happens to the movie is what happens to winona's footage in a way lol. tarted up for mtv. ben stiller directed this at 29 hahahha. he's better at comedies though.

also: everybody smoked a lot back then or what?

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

on purpose (no joke) i watched REALITY BITES, which i hadn't seen since it came out.

i vaguely remember not liking it the first time, so this was an exercise in perspective, i mean self-torture, which i did just for lols.

i reached 3 conclusions:

1) the 90s were fucking embarrassing
2) i'm fucking old
3) i still don't like this movie but now i realize it was kids who made it so it's ok

also funny that winona was supposed to be the pretty one, but in the scenes they're together my eyes always go towards jeanine garofalo. she was the more interesting character really, and a livelier actor, it's just that the movie wasn't about her.

then while trying to find out why the fuck the movie was set in houston i found out about the woman who wrote it and realized that what happens to the movie is what happens to winona's footage in a way lol. tarted up for mtv. ben stiller directed this at 29 hahahha. he's better at comedies though.

also: everybody smoked a lot back then or what?

Singles has aged better than Reality Bites, I’d wager.
Singles has not aged perfectly, by any means, but it’s aged better.

Also I love Winona — possibly my first on-screen crush sometime around ‘95/‘95 — but Reality Bites has never done it for me.

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Originally Posted by Severian

Singles has aged better than Reality Bites, I’d wager.
Singles has not aged perfectly, by any means, but it’s aged better.

Also I love Winona — possibly my first on-screen crush sometime around ‘95/‘95 — but Reality Bites has never done it for me.

singles i think went for the whole "grunge" cliché whereas reality bites went for broader genxer themes of alienation and disaffection i guess, but i could not tell you from memory, and wouldn't know where to find singles, in fact both movies were mixed up in my brain. the lemonheads play in ethan hawke's "band" in reality bites. the other one had eddie vedder i think? someone...

the thing is i got a cheap offer to subscribe to "starz" (lol that name, but it was $2 a month) and decided to trawl it for trash movies a bit, and this one was there. and so i did it on a lark. looking for singles on purpose, idk, hahahha, ok maybe to prolong the joke

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eta: so no singles without paying extra but "starz" (lol that name, can't keep a straight face) includes "empire records" if one wanted to get zellwegered (she's also got 3 seconds on screen in reality bites). and ah the lovely liv tyler front and center on the poster.

hahahha zellweger was playing an alcoholic near death judy garland some 3 or 4 years ago. she's fucking old, i'm fucking old. old! and winona is spock's mom now lmao.

here is winona looking a bit goth right when covid hit

 

[tw2113]

It's an old shitty movie night, first was Slavegirls from Beyond Infinity, followed up with Starcrash

[tw2113]

Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers.