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!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 09:43 AM

may smashed again

by some 60 votes

GravitySlips · 03.29.2019, 09:48 AM

2nd referendum plz

Genteel Death · 03.29.2019, 12:44 PM

Her rubbish deal could be voted on three times, with the results for everyone to see, but asking people what they would like to happen a second time is apparently undemocratic. Hmmm...ok.

!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 12:58 PM

watched her speak to parliament today and seems like a fucking egomaniac.

clearly failed and clearly has no support. isn’t this when they fall on their swords?

if so, she should proceed, and have new elections, because her tenure has been a fucking disaster.

why won’t she admit she sucks, and quit? nobody wants her.

the DUPs just said they’d rather stay in europe than damage the union.

monday some runoffs proposed.

demonrail666 · 03.29.2019, 03:17 PM

She treats the negotiations as her own personal mission, which seems to be her approach to everything. She won't accept that she's not gonna deliver a solution and if anything is now more of an obstacle to any progress being made.

I've always disagreed with the principle of a second referendum but I'd accept one now. But it would have to be a straight fight between no-deal leave and business-as-usual-remain. I'd vote to leave but would accept either outcome as being better than this fucking around trying to please everyone. And no power within Parliament to take control of the decision once it was made. Leave means leave, Remain means remain. A general election would achieve nothing.

!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 03:30 PM

oh, “the people’s vote”

right

demonrail666 · 03.29.2019, 03:33 PM

I have a problem with the term "people's vote" (who voted in the last one?) but essentially yes: let's leave this once and for all to the British public, rather than a bunch of cunts in parliament.

!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 03:35 PM

dont know thats what they were calling it. everything has a name now. like brexit. hilarious to hear the pm saying “brexit” with a straight face.

demonrail666 · 03.29.2019, 03:38 PM

Those most vocally calling for a second referndum have used the term "people's vote", which for me was precisely what the first one was, but anyway.

!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Those most vocally calling for a second referndum have used the term "people's vote", which for me was precisely what the first one was, but anyway.

right but the idea was an exit with a deal not just random bullshit yes?

i can’t believe (there’s that phrase) may’s incompetence in this: triggering article 50 with no plan, etc

eta: or better

demonrail666 · 03.29.2019, 03:42 PM

The original refendum was a simple decision between leaving and staying. It was never conditional on any kind of exit deal.

!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 03:47 PM

but wasnt the leave campaign sold on the basis dictating terms to europe and what not?

demonrail666 · 03.29.2019, 03:50 PM

Both sides had lots of different perspectives but ultimately the decision was a simple one.

!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 03:52 PM

nothing ever simple about divorces...

maybe “simplistic” is the right adjective

a simplistic choice ultimately a false one

demonrail666 · 03.29.2019, 03:53 PM

Especially when you involve lawyers/politicians

!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 03:54 PM

that’s precisely why i don’t want medicare for all

Derek · 03.29.2019, 04:04 PM

You're gonna become the equivalent of whatever the QAnon people will be in 20 years time as your country only ever continues to make the case that socialism is needed and you feel more and more detached from how people actually see the world. My uncle was Nostradamus alongside my other uncle who worked at Nintendo so you can trust my instinct here.

Brexit? Give us a vote then give us a general election. Clean slate. Let the chips fall where they may.

!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 04:08 PM

but nostrildamo, ive always been an outsider

who cares?

not a moocow

Derek · 03.29.2019, 04:22 PM

Well hey if you're happy with that inevitable outcome then I can't really tell you off for it. Free will and all.

!@#$%! · 03.29.2019, 04:33 PM

yes

anyway sticking to the news (not the faraway future) looks like a customs union is close to a majority...

03.29.2019, 09:43 AM	#281
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	may smashed again by some 60 votes
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03.29.2019, 09:48 AM	#282
GravitySlips children of satan Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 373	2nd referendum plz
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03.29.2019, 12:44 PM	#283
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	Her rubbish deal could be voted on three times, with the results for everyone to see, but asking people what they would like to happen a second time is apparently undemocratic. Hmmm...ok.
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03.29.2019, 12:58 PM	#284
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	watched her speak to parliament today and seems like a fucking egomaniac. clearly failed and clearly has no support. isn’t this when they fall on their swords? if so, she should proceed, and have new elections, because her tenure has been a fucking disaster. why won’t she admit she sucks, and quit? nobody wants her. the DUPs just said they’d rather stay in europe than damage the union. monday some runoffs proposed.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

03.29.2019, 03:17 PM	#285
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	She treats the negotiations as her own personal mission, which seems to be her approach to everything. She won't accept that she's not gonna deliver a solution and if anything is now more of an obstacle to any progress being made. I've always disagreed with the principle of a second referendum but I'd accept one now. But it would have to be a straight fight between no-deal leave and business-as-usual-remain. I'd vote to leave but would accept either outcome as being better than this fucking around trying to please everyone. And no power within Parliament to take control of the decision once it was made. Leave means leave, Remain means remain. A general election would achieve nothing.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

03.29.2019, 03:30 PM	#286
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	oh, “the people’s vote” right
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03.29.2019, 03:33 PM	#287
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	I have a problem with the term "people's vote" (who voted in the last one?) but essentially yes: let's leave this once and for all to the British public, rather than a bunch of cunts in parliament.
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03.29.2019, 03:35 PM	#288
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	dont know thats what they were calling it. everything has a name now. like brexit. hilarious to hear the pm saying “brexit” with a straight face.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

03.29.2019, 03:38 PM	#289
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Those most vocally calling for a second referndum have used the term "people's vote", which for me was precisely what the first one was, but anyway.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

03.29.2019, 03:42 PM	#291
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	The original refendum was a simple decision between leaving and staying. It was never conditional on any kind of exit deal.
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03.29.2019, 03:47 PM	#292
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	but wasnt the leave campaign sold on the basis dictating terms to europe and what not?
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03.29.2019, 03:50 PM	#293
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Both sides had lots of different perspectives but ultimately the decision was a simple one.
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03.29.2019, 03:52 PM	#294
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	nothing ever simple about divorces... maybe “simplistic” is the right adjective a simplistic choice ultimately a false one
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03.29.2019, 03:53 PM	#295
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Especially when you involve lawyers/politicians
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03.29.2019, 03:54 PM	#296
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	that’s precisely why i don’t want medicare for all
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03.29.2019, 04:04 PM	#297
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	You're gonna become the equivalent of whatever the QAnon people will be in 20 years time as your country only ever continues to make the case that socialism is needed and you feel more and more detached from how people actually see the world. My uncle was Nostradamus alongside my other uncle who worked at Nintendo so you can trust my instinct here. Brexit? Give us a vote then give us a general election. Clean slate. Let the chips fall where they may.
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03.29.2019, 04:08 PM	#298
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	but nostrildamo, ive always been an outsider who cares? not a moocow
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03.29.2019, 04:22 PM	#299
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Well hey if you're happy with that inevitable outcome then I can't really tell you off for it. Free will and all.
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03.29.2019, 04:33 PM	#300
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	yes anyway sticking to the news (not the faraway future) looks like a customs union is close to a majority...
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