[Severian]

The new Neil Gaiman, Ocean at the End of the Lane.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

 

This is great. I like Umberto Eco, a blend of religious themed and historical fiction, combining all my favorite boring subjects into novel format. The Name of the Rose is better, but this has been a great read so far. Interestingly it connects Byzantine Orthodox beef with Latin Catholics, something I am a bit familiar with as an Orthodox Christian

Originally Posted by Severian

The new Neil Gaiman, Ocean at the End of the Lane.

Wait. NEW Neil Gaiman? I want it. Is it epic
like American Gods or just OK like Anansi Boys?

Either way I have to order it right away!!

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

 

This is great. I like Umberto Eco, a blend of religious themed and historical fiction, combining all my favorite boring subjects into novel format. The Name of the Rose is better, but this has been a great read so far. Interestingly it connects Byzantine Orthodox beef with Latin Catholics, something I am a bit familiar with as an Orthodox Christian



Wait. NEW Neil Gaiman? I want it. Is it epic
like American Gods or just OK like Anansi Boys?

Either way I have to order it right away!!

Dude, of course there's a new Neil Gaiman. It is, disappointingly, only 193 pages or something... It's also completely separate from American Gods as far as I can tell, and though it feels almost like a more stylized, clever take on a children's book, it's one of the scariest things he's ever written. I'm taking it very slow, especially because it's so short, so I may be off in the long run, but despite its nostalgic childhood narrative, it has malevolent overtone that makes it a very tense and anxious read. My god, what that man can do with words.

Anyway, of course it's got a mythological foundation (I think) but this time it seems closer to Pagan faerie than to any of the more obvious cultural myths and archetypes seen in American Gods and Anansi Boys. Like a cautionary tale a Pagan mother might tell her children to horrify them out of doing something naughty.

You and I seem to have similar I interests. Did you know that (according to Goodreads, and some other super credible sources?) there is an entire sub-sub genre of science fiction/fantasy/historical fiction that is completely devoted to theologically themed realist allegories, with some supernatural and/or heavily speculative element?

I too love religion and history, but psychology and cognitive/behavioral science, shot through a prism of speculation, is the big kicker for me. So this genre, which includes books by authors ranging from Gaiman, Gene Wolfe, China Mieville, to Dan Brown (yeah, I know), Susanna Clarke, Gordon Dahlquist, and
Tom Wolfe. I wish I remembered it's name. Theological Science Fiction sounds really awful, so having a cool sub-pop name works for me.

[demonrail666]

Howdy stranger!

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The Fallout. Andrew Anthony

Anyone who's read and liked Nick Cohen's What's Left? should love this.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

 

This is great. I like Umberto Eco, a blend of religious themed and historical fiction, combining all my favorite boring subjects into novel format. The Name of the Rose is better, but this has been a great read so far. Interestingly it connects Byzantine Orthodox beef with Latin Catholics, something I am a bit familiar with as an Orthodox Christian

I loved Name of the Rose but got about 3/4 of the way into Foucault's Pendulum before realising I didn't have the foggiest idea what was going on. I'll give Baudolini a go though.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Severian

Dude, of course there's a new Neil Gaiman. It is, disappointingly, only 193 pages or something... It's also completely separate from American Gods as far as I can tell, and though it feels almost like a more stylized, clever take on a children's book, it's one of the scariest things he's ever written. I'm taking it very slow, especially because it's so short, so I may be off in the long run, but despite its nostalgic childhood narrative, it has malevolent overtone that makes it a very tense and anxious read. My god, what that man can do with words.

Anyway, of course it's got a mythological foundation (I think) but this time it seems closer to Pagan faerie than to any of the more obvious cultural myths and archetypes seen in American Gods and Anansi Boys. Like a cautionary tale a Pagan mother might tell her children to horrify them out of doing something naughty.


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Books written for teenagers are often authors' best works. I think Clive Barkers works for children and teenagers are BETTER than his adult novels. I like that they are more concise, and yet also less graphic. They let your imagination do the heavy lifting, more insinuation and hinting than revealing the horror. Imajica is epic, but I really have enjoyed these Abarat books. While I didn't like Anasi Boys better than American Gods, I didn't think it was particularly better written, so I expect that kind of style in this one. 200 pages are better for me. I have a short attention span for novels, there are a dozen I have put down at the half way point because after two or three days I lose interest.

When I realized that American Gods was really just a grief story, it all clicked. He was just holding on too long, the way MOST of us make our lives tragic by holding on to a dream, a fear, or a love longer than its worth.

Originally Posted by demonrail666

I loved Name of the Rose but got about 3/4 of the way into Foucault's Pendulum before realising I didn't have the foggiest idea what was going on. I'll give Baudolini a go though.

Baudolino is a bit lengthy, but its actually fucking hilarious! Name of the Rose was more spooky, a great thriller.

[h8kurdt]

 

Currently hammering my way through this book. Just brilliant. That's all you need to know.

[demonrail666]

I absolutely love boxing from that era. I actually have a load of videos of old Hearns, Hagler, Duran fights that I recorded off the TV as a kid. Hagler especially is one of my all-time sporting heroes. I've never seen a book that focuses solely on that period so I've just ordered it off Amazon. Thanks!!!!

[h8kurdt]

Must spread love before giving again etc.

[demonrail666]

Likewise. And if you haven't already seen it, try and check out the DVD, Fabulous Four, which profiles the same era. You'll love it.

[pony]

 

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Books written for teenagers are often authors' best works. I think Clive Barkers works for children and teenagers are BETTER than his adult novels. I like that they are more concise, and yet also less graphic. They let your imagination do the heavy lifting, more insinuation and hinting than revealing the horror. Imajica is epic, but I really have enjoyed these Abarat books. While I didn't like Anasi Boys better than American Gods, I didn't think it was particularly better written, so I expect that kind of style in this one. 200 pages are better for me. I have a short attention span for novels, there are a dozen I have put down at the half way point because after two or three days I lose interest.

[b]When I realized that American Gods was really just a grief story, it all clicked. He was just holding on too long, the way MOST of us make our lives tragic by holding on to a dream, a fear, or a love longer than its worth. [b]

Sir, have you ever read The Stars My Destination

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Jules Verne The Mysterious Island.

Its pretty good. I'm reading faster than usual, because I seem to be absorbing faster. I've only read a few books this fast, like The Ruins or the novel version of 30 Days of Night.

Baudolino? It was cool, had a fantastic Umberto Ego style twist at the end, but it should have been a hundred pages shorter. It was like a cross between 100 Years of Solitude, Canterbury Tales, and Clive Barker's Imajica. Decent medieval themed psychedelic fantasy blended with historical fiction, however and again, a bit to lengthy..

[dead_battery]

my goodreads page is here

go look at how smarter i am than you

[LifeDistortion]

Raffles:The Amateur Cracksman- It's quite good.

[Rob Instigator]

 

[Severian]

Nice, Rob!

[Severian]

The Ocean at the End of the Lane was so good it made me cry. Really light writing for Gaiman, at least in length... but man that guy has a way of making your teeth curl. How he comes up with some of his imagery without excessive psychotropic drug use is beyond me. There's also some heartwarming shit, f yr into that kind of thing.

[schizophrenicroom]

& sons, david gilbert

[Severian]

 

... Grudgingly, though. I don't like being sucked into these soon to be cinematic abortions, especially being a late-comer. It's obviously a first "novel," but there is a sense of classic science fiction tension that reminds me of the '60s and '70s writing I enjoy so much. It is hard to put down, I'll give it that.. But it only takes a few chapters before its literary influences become painfully clear.

I'm really just filling the space between, here. I plan on re-reading Bradbury's Greentown trilogy here soon, and I recently finished the new Gaiman, which lead to an enjoyable umpteenth time through all the old Gaiman I have. Never where seems to be losing some of its menace, but mostly, the oldies are holding up well for Mr. Amanda Palmer.