[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

Wow.

Same boat.

I hate it. I love it.

On Monday I bought an electronic cigarette, to at least help me cut down on the amount of shit I put into my body. It sorta helps. Sorta. I'll puff on it for awhile, but sooner or later I need to burn some real tobacco.

My tongue feels weird.

I can't take deep breaths like I used to.

What a stupid fucking way to go.

i don't know. everyone dies. you could try smoking tasty cigars.

you know what i used to love? gitanes. unfiltered. the pleasure of black tobacco.... FUCK!

my throat cringes in pain when i write these things but my frontal lobe screams "more, more, more!"

[evollove]

Any self-control tips?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

Any self-control tips?

why would you want to deprive yourself of such exquisite neurotransmitter?

but anyway, to risk n'ik's wrath, i'll say this:

to kick the habit it takes like a month. they say 2-3 weeks. but once a smoker, always a smoker. although the last time i bought a pack (stress) i smoke 2 or 3 and threw it away cuz it felt like poison-- not the delicious feeling i was accustomed to. i was re-virgined i suppose (HA!).

so, hm, during the 2-3 week cold turkey period i'd get these massive cravings and what would appease them was… deep breaths. yeah, like when you take a deep drag out of a cigarette, you know? nothing mystical or cosmic or anything. maybe it had to do with anxiety, who the fuck nows. maybe it had to do with me only taking deep breaths with a smoke, and still needing them without it. i don't know why. it just worked.

anyway, there you are thinking yourself cursed, here i am thinking myself deprived. who has it better? i don't know. yes, i suppose it's a bad drug. but i had some good times with it ha ha ha. mmm, gitanes!!

so yeah, the deep breaths worked for me on a momentary basis. but as one moment gives way to the next you only need to focus on each moment and fuck anything else. fuck counting days too, it will make you more desperate i think. but plan for 3 weeks.

[Rob Instigator]

I drew for hours on end to help fight the craving for ciggies.

[dead_battery]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i think i've read those same lines before. okay, i'll bite….

THEN DIE MOTHEFUCKER! DIE AND BE HAPPY FOR IT! THERE'S NOTHING TO LIVE FOR! LOVE THAT CANCER!

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i love you for this, noone else would be so kind.

all you other pieces of shit take a lesson out of symbols book. last of the true gentlemen.

[dead_battery]

i was involved in selling e-cigs for a while.

people keep dying from them, the oil builds up on their lungs and doesnt go away.

i smoked them like a motherfucker, all day long. they aren't good, the fact is we just dont have the data to know the long term effects yet. there are people dying from them. on the other hand they contain like 4 ingredients max and have freed some people from tobacco.

i threw all mine away when i quit but of course started again.

[Rob Instigator]

people die from living. It's the one thing that's gonna kill you

[evollove]

Fuck it. I'm nowhere near being able to control myself with breathing exercises or by picking up a new hobby.

What's better: deprivation or cursed?

I dunno. When's the last time you heard of someone getting lung cancer and thinking to yourself, "Well, at least he got to smoke."

When's the last time a non-smoker got to age 90 and you thought, "Yeah, but they never enjoyed the smoking habit. What a waste."

Doesn't quitting make you feel awesome, powerful, full of life? No?

[evollove]

<-- This is what smoking does. I'm 19 years old and look like this.

Kidding.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by dead_battery

i love you for this, noone else would be so kind.

all you other pieces of shit take a lesson out of symbols book. last of the true gentlemen.

 

Originally Posted by evollove

Fuck it. I'm nowhere near being able to control myself with breathing exercises or by picking up a new hobby.

What's better: deprivation or cursed?

I dunno. When's the last time you heard of someone getting lung cancer and thinking to yourself, "Well, at least he got to smoke."

When's the last time a non-smoker got to age 90 and you thought, "Yeah, but they never enjoyed the smoking habit. What a waste."

Doesn't quitting make you feel awesome, powerful, full of life? No?

"awesome, powerful, and full of life"? no. that sounds like douchy propaganda. my reading misses tobacco. and my work misses tobacco-- instead of profiting from long bouts of concentration now i have to manage my adhd.

but my tongue is not all red and fucked, and i can breathe better, and i'm not coughing all the time. also, smoking is supposed to be bad for boners.

however--it's easy to feel regret when one is sick. like being hangover and saying "i'll never fucking drink again!". but if people didn't have fun getting wasted, they wouldn't. (well, i lie-- i know a few masochist drunks-- they get angry, or cry, or get themselves beaten up--such people shouldn't drink--- fuck if i understand them though).

smoking has its benefits. orgies have their benefits. recklessness has its benefits. only you can weight the cost/benefit for you, not some mythical 90 year old. crime/time, that sort of thing.

and it's not "breathing exercises" or any such shit-- that's just fucking wrong. i told you it's not yoga, or any cosmic anything. it's not physical culture or good habits. it's taking a fucking deep, desperate smoker drag-- of air.

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by evollove

Doesn't quitting make you feel awesome, powerful, full of life? No?

absolutely but I miss the pleasure of a drum and could pick up where i left off in an instant, even after 6 or 7 years

[dead_battery]

i dont drink alcohol anymore.

some people shouldnt get drunk and im one of them.

[EVOLghost]

e-cigs aren't for me....they're weird and burn ya throats. I can't stand 'em.


smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

 

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by dead_battery

i dont drink alcohol anymore.

some people shouldnt get drunk and im one of them.

i need to get drunk 2-4 times a year, like the old pagan festivals. it purges my emotions. i feel very clearheaded and alive for months afterwards. i hate drunkards, but this is different.

fortunately, i have a friend who possesses the exquisite hospitality to throw great bacchanalias. thank fuck for louisianians. they're the last vestige of human culture in america.

[evollove]

Ha! You ex-smokers are only remembering the good times.

There are cigs that taste great, relax, and envelope one in wonderfulness.

But the vast majority are consumed because the body's crying out. You smoke 'em, probably not even paying much attention to the experience. Just getting a drug into the system so the system doesn't turn on you.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by evollove

I dunno. When's the last time you heard of someone getting lung cancer and thinking to yourself, "Well, at least he got to smoke."

When's the last time a non-smoker got to age 90 and you thought, "Yeah, but they never enjoyed the smoking habit. What a waste."

Don;t believe the hype

"Every year, about 16,000 to 24,000 Americans die of lung cancer, even though they have never smoked. In fact, if lung cancer in nonsmokers had its own separate category, it would rank among the top 10 fatal cancers in the United States."

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/news/wh...kes-nonsmokers

Get to know facts before you start worrying. Pollution, radon gas, workplace pollutants, chemicals in your home (cleaning solutions, hairspray, etc), and plain ol genetic mutation cause a shit ton of lung cancer.

[Rob Instigator]

you're gonna die anyway.
enjoy your life
fuck em if they won't let you

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

Ha! You ex-smokers are only remembering the good times.

There are cigs that taste great, relax, and envelope one in wonderfulness.

But the vast majority are consumed because the body's crying out. You smoke 'em, probably not even paying much attention to the experience. Just getting a drug into the system so the system doesn't turn on you.

same as everything. in the end everyone gets sick, old, and dies.

but if you wanna quit by all means quit. i did. i'm not saying "don't quit", i'm just saying, don't tell yourself lies. you have to face the truth that you like smoking-- admit it. smoking is the crazy girlfriend who blows you in public places and then gets you thrown in jail. yes, you need to kick her to the curb, but don't lie about her merits--at least be honest.

i quit smoking with a clear head and without lies about it. i did it because i wanted-- the costs outweighed the benefits, so i did it. no mythical powers, no paradise on earth or other nonsense. life is hard. i just took the pain and quit smoking--end of story. but i'll always remember the good times.

[evollove]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i did it because i wanted-- the costs outweighed the benefits, so i did it.

So, what are the benefits?

If we're taking a cavalier, "Life's short, we all die, have fun" attitude, I don't understand why you made the choice you made.

And Rob, fun stats, but 500,000 smokers die each year. My number's coming up. I can feel it.

[evollove]

See, I'm a nervous smoker.

But whenever I've tried to quit, I go fucking homicidal when I'm not suicidal. Bad for everyone.

I can't win.