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SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 02.11.2015, 01:18 AM

So even though their both Swiss, at times were contemporaries and have very similar explanations for child cognitive development i cant find a single reference that suggests Piaget was influenced by Jung or that they even knew of each other or each other's work. It just seem weird that they wouldn't

!@#$%! · 02.11.2015, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

So even though their both Swiss, at times were contemporaries and have very similar explanations for child cognitive development i cant find a single reference that suggests Piaget was influenced by Jung or that they even knew of each other or each other's work. It just seem weird that they wouldn't

google is your friend

piaget studied with jung

https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Rob Instigator · 02.11.2015, 04:35 PM

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Don't think I ever read something by this guy, but the plot sounds interesting. After they won WWII, Japan rules over California and the Germans over New York

I love this book, and many by Dick.

Rob Instigator · 02.11.2015, 04:44 PM

I am now reading this weighty tome.

Science and Sanity: An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General Semantics by Alfred Korzybski. As a huge Robert Anton Wilson fan, this is where he got his ideas about neurolinguistic programming and guerilla ontology. Korzybski started the Institute of General Semantics and pfromoted the change in humanity from Aristotelian thought to non-aristotelian though.

!@#$%! · 02.12.2015, 12:53 PM

thrilling!

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@ rob - that "science and sanity" thing looks pretty intriguing

lucyrulesok · 02.13.2015, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by A Thousand Threads

haha.
no. not really.

HAHAHA

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 02.13.2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

google is your friend

piaget studied with jung

https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I googled every possible combo and found nothing connecting the two.. i see Google liked you better, thanks for sharing

tascam_slob · 02.17.2015, 01:47 PM

It's the story of America told from a realist, truthful perspective. Not all that bs that you learned about in elementary school.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 02.17.2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tascam_slob

It's the story of America told from a realist, truthful perspective. Not all that bs that you learned about in elementary school.

In California this is part of the curriculum in 11th grade US History.. really EVERY American needs to read it, TWICE.

Im reading

And wondering how i never discovered this magical realism gem!

schizophrenicroom · 02.17.2015, 04:44 PM

i love bless me ultima! such gorgeous imagery in there.

i read part of a book from duke u press the other day that theorizes horror movies are really some kind of critique of capitalist culture

Rob Instigator · 02.17.2015, 04:55 PM

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i love bless me ultima! such gorgeous imagery in there.

i read part of a book from duke u press the other day that theorizes horror movies are really some kind of critique of capitalist culture

zombie movies are. mindless consumption, herd mentality, etc. George Romero had an entire zombie film in a suburban mall

vampire films are about sex, the fear of it, rape, seduction, etc.

the horror of the 50's was about the threat of godless communists (Body Snatchers for example) or about the proliferation of nuclear weapons (the radiation monster movies, godzilla, Them, etc.)

ilduclo · 02.18.2015, 07:03 AM

Zarathustra is some of the most beautiful writing ever

In the mountains, the shortest way is from peak to peak: but for that, you need long legs

!@#$%! · 02.18.2015, 08:58 AM

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i have hope after reading it but Nietzsche went insane in his last days. i hope all that meant was that he was before his time and his philosophy actually does work. i like how they all get drunk at the end.

we don't know why nietzsche went mad. some people speculated syphillis in his day. we think now maybe it was not madness but a stroke (he had several). to say that his thoughts caused madness sounds very poetic but is such a stretch. nietzsche's thought is in fact very healing for people tormented by ghost cults. his philosophy does work.

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Zarathustra is some of the most beautiful writing ever

In the mountains, the shortest way is from peak to peak: but for that, you need long legs

i'm an oaf and i could never enjoy zarathustra. my favorite of his books, the one that split my skull open for good, was "beyond good and evil." for that book i owe him my life.

demonrail666 · 02.18.2015, 11:26 AM

I dismissed Nietzsche for the longest time but just reread Twilight of the Idols and really really liked it. It's like you read him as a very young man and think he's great, then mature a bit and think he's silly, then mature a bit more and think he's actually a lot better than you thought even when you first read him. Or at least that's how it seems to have gone for me.

evollove · 02.18.2015, 01:45 PM

^ Ha! That certainly rings true for me. I'm probably still in the "silly" camp, but not as much as I used to be. It bothers me that practically everyone, no matter what they already believe, can find some Nietzsche to back them up. He said just about everything at one point or another.

But my main complaint is that he doesn't really have a cohesive philosophy, but I'm starting to think that maybe that isn't such a bad thing. Reality is so nebulous that a concrete "this is the way things are" sort of philosophy is perhaps the weaker one.

One of the few philosophers who gave a shit about writing a decent sentence, so props for that.

demonrail666 · 02.19.2015, 02:27 AM

I suppose events make philosophers appear either more or less relevant, and things have obviously gotten really bad when a philosopher like Nietzsche suddenly starts to appear quite insightful. But you're right, he doesn't offer a viable world-view.

Rob Instigator · 02.19.2015, 09:10 AM

philosophy is not about finding a viable world-view. it is about dissecting meaning, reality, and consciousness

!@#$%! · 02.19.2015, 09:28 AM

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But you're right, he doesn't offer a viable world-view.

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

philosophy is not about finding a viable world-view. it is about dissecting meaning, reality, and consciousness

i was about to say (i'll say it anyway), thank fuck nietzsche wasn't a theologian in disguise, pretending to know the meaning of the universe, the place of the stars and the mechanics of the afterlife, like so many "philosophers" before him-- plato, kant, hegel, etc.

the man stuck to his subject, which was essentially that of human psychology and morality. and he did a kickass job of it.

he wasn't trying to solve every problem nor have a prescription for everything. beyond good an evil is, in fact, a call to future philosophers to create new values-- he didn't claim to have them ready-made.

Rob Instigator · 02.19.2015, 12:10 PM

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Arthur Machen, The Great God Pan

British precursor to Lovecraft and the whole 'weird' genre. Anyone who likes Call of Cthulhu will love this.

fucking excellent thanks
Just finished The Great God Pan, by Machen. great great great

Thanks for the recommendation

review is up http://rxttbooks.blogspot.com/

demonrail666 · 02.19.2015, 12:25 PM

Great isn't it! Truly Disturbing. And a great review. Love your blog.

You mention wanting to read his other stuff. You should give The White People a go.

Incidentally, my avatar is of occult artist Austin Osman Spare, who illustrated an edition GGP that I have. Here's some samples from that edition:

Penguin recently published a collection of his short stories which for some reason doesn't include The Great God Pan.

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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,976	I am now reading this weighty tome. Science and Sanity: An Introduction to Non-Aristotelian Systems and General Semantics by Alfred Korzybski. As a huge Robert Anton Wilson fan, this is where he got his ideas about neurolinguistic programming and guerilla ontology. Korzybski started the Institute of General Semantics and pfromoted the change in humanity from Aristotelian thought to non-aristotelian though. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	Zarathustra is some of the most beautiful writing ever In the mountains, the shortest way is from peak to peak: but for that, you need long legs
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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	I dismissed Nietzsche for the longest time but just reread Twilight of the Idols and really really liked it. It's like you read him as a very young man and think he's great, then mature a bit and think he's silly, then mature a bit more and think he's actually a lot better than you thought even when you first read him. Or at least that's how it seems to have gone for me.
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evollove invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,879	^ Ha! That certainly rings true for me. I'm probably still in the "silly" camp, but not as much as I used to be. It bothers me that practically everyone, no matter what they already believe, can find some Nietzsche to back them up. He said just about everything at one point or another. But my main complaint is that he doesn't really have a cohesive philosophy, but I'm starting to think that maybe that isn't such a bad thing. Reality is so nebulous that a concrete "this is the way things are" sort of philosophy is perhaps the weaker one. One of the few philosophers who gave a shit about writing a decent sentence, so props for that.
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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	I suppose events make philosophers appear either more or less relevant, and things have obviously gotten really bad when a philosopher like Nietzsche suddenly starts to appear quite insightful. But you're right, he doesn't offer a viable world-view.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,976	philosophy is not about finding a viable world-view. it is about dissecting meaning, reality, and consciousness __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Great isn't it! Truly Disturbing. And a great review. Love your blog. You mention wanting to read his other stuff. You should give The White People a go. Incidentally, my avatar is of occult artist Austin Osman Spare, who illustrated an edition GGP that I have. Here's some samples from that edition: Penguin recently published a collection of his short stories which for some reason doesn't include The Great God Pan.
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