[gmku]

I think the last time I had to pull over for a cop, roll down the window, etc., was about 25 years ago, in Texas, for speeding.

I just don't do anything to get in trouble. I don't go more than 5-6 miles over the limit on the Interstate, I don't drink or otherwise indulge before getting behind the wheel, and I am a very obedient driver with traffic laws, etc.

[Rob Instigator]

you are also not brown-skinned.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

White privilege is to even remotely have the conversation we're having about ways to resist police. The reality is regardless of legality or ethics, defy them and see what happens.

[evollove]

I got busted about 15 years ago after smoking a joint in the car, and now I drive like a wuss because I was fucked with constantly after that. Just took a bored cop to run my plates and I was sure to get pulled over for damn near anything. Crossing the double line, too fast, too slow, too much breaking. "Failure to operate" or some shit is a broad enough category that if a cop wants to fuck with you, he will, I found out.

All it took was a new licence plate and the harassment stopped. Still, my head's permanently fucked.

And I'm white.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Evol.. now you can empathize with the daily reality of literally millions of people.

[evollove]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

White privilege is to even remotely have the conversation we're having about ways to resist police. The reality is regardless of legality or ethics, defy them and see what happens.

They'll give you a contemptuous smile and then bring the pain. Unless your some super-cool, smart person who can whip off ordinance numbers off the top of your head, cops aren't likely to be impressed by anything any of us would have to say.

[evollove]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Evol.. now you can empathize with the daily reality of literally millions of people.

So unfair. I'm white. I mean, it's fine for them, but I'm white.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

So unfair. I'm white. I mean, it's fine for them, but I'm white.

you keep telling yourself that...

 

[evollove]

Ha! I guess I should be happy "Equal harassment" exists?

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Speaking of white privilege the chick at the coffee bean dropped a full coffee on me just now.. she gave me some gift cards and thankfully i didn't get burned but still just really fucked up my day

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

Ha! I guess I should be happy "Equal harassment" exists?

i don't know. i thought you said you were jewish? that's still not "white" in some places.

maybe you're being harassed by aryan cops!

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ps - here an interesting discussion

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...inker/1.629888

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/ashke...aretz-article/

[evollove]

Thanks. Yeah, Jewish "identity" is an incredibly complex issue. To be honest, I think when I examine my behavior, I'm either "white" or "Jewish" depending on which will give me the greatest advantage in a given situation. For a cop, I'll be white. If I want to seem slightly exotic to some chick, I'll be Jewish.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

For a cop, I'll be white.

unless you claim to be a lawyer!

badum-tshhhh....

--

but seriously, that white identity can melt away quickly in some situations... germany in the 30s... or some country clubs...

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i know this very old "1/2" jewish guy who identifies himself as "a russian" and would wear viking costumes. i once tried arguing with him that he was jewish and he vigorously denied it.

i was thinking about this right now and i remembered that superhilarious woody allen movie, "zelig".

random note- i have some sephardic ancestry, but some people in my yahoo town think i'm russian because of my accent. ha! let them think that & fear my mafia connections.

[evollove]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i have some sephardic ancestry

You're a Jew. Or, a better way to put it: you could exploit that part of your ancestry if you wanted to.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i was thinking about this right now and i remembered that superhilarious woody allen movie, "zelig".

I know some whitebreads who converted to Judaism. But they still don't seem to get Woody Allen, or even Jon Stewart. So I consider you as or maybe more Jewish than them, even if they are practicing and devout.

Weird, weird stuff.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

You're a Jew. Or, a better way to put it: you could exploit that part of your ancestry if you wanted to.

i'm more a jewish bastard. meaning there was this moroccan guy who impregnated my great grandmother & then proceeded to fuck off. my grandma was raised catholic, with a mangled last name, and soon everyone forgot where we got our noses.

i have exploited it in the past-- my face helped many times to get me a jewish girlfriend. and i did try to exploit it beyond that, but it's on my dad's side and would have required conversion. i spent almost a year in israel, and many people didn't think i was NOT israeli. saved me from deportation when they were rounding up illegals. in the end i got tired of the social tension and returned to 'merica the vast.

Originally Posted by evollove

I know some whitebreads who converted to Judaism. But they still don't seem to get Woody Allen, or even Jon Stewart. So I consider you as or maybe more Jewish than them, even if they are practicing and devout.

Weird, weird stuff.

hey-- i'm good with numbers, and i like to argue-- so yes, ha ha ha ha.

[evollove]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

hey-- i'm good with numbers,

I haven't found this stereotype to be especially true.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i like to argue.

This one is spot on.

Gentiles get together and hunt small animals. Jews get together and argue about the color of the sky.

[schizophrenicroom]

i was actually thinking of checking out a shabbat service this weekend, what a coincidence to come here while thread's on this topic. somewhere in my background is some jewish ancestry but grew up in lds faith till 8 or 9... gonna see how that goes friday and might keep at it. i do love woody allen and challah, and i'm fairly neurotic so i guess i'll somewhat fit in already

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

I haven't found this stereotype to be especially true.

it's the marijuana. once i got high *with a math teacher* and we couldn't mentally calculate 14x14 ha ha ha.

Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom

i was actually thinking of checking out a shabbat service this weekend, what a coincidence to come here while thread's on this topic. somewhere in my background is some jewish ancestry but grew up in lds faith till 8 or 9... gonna see how that goes friday and might keep at it. i do love woody allen and challah, and i'm fairly neurotic so i guess i'll somewhat fit in already

adonai will be pleased

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

I'm afraid that I'm becoming one of those beat down adults that we all feared/scorned when we were younger.. I hope to get my second wind soon but spending too much time dwelling on my failures, ignoring the victories, letting shit haunt my quiet moments. Summers always bum me the fuck out, I am a person whose mind works best when totally preoccupied by a dozen demanding tasks simultaneously, but when I have some real free time its like..

"I know my head is my worst enemy.."

[schizophrenicroom]

that is me every day