[evollove]

I can't remember where I read the story--maybe apocryphal--about Hem and Fitz comparing penis size in Paris. Probably not Movable feast.

Originally Posted by gmku

a character is not the author.

A character isn't even the book. A few years ago someone told me they didn't like Madame Bovary because of how Emma neglected her child. ??? I guess if a character is "bad" (morally) the book is "bad" (in terms of quality)? I don't know how some people read.

[pony]

 

[gmku]

I think there is something in Movable Feast about that, actually. I'll check my copy tonight.

Originally Posted by evollove

I can't remember where I read the story--maybe apocryphal--about Hem and Fitz comparing penis size in Paris. Probably not Movable feast.




A character isn't even the book. A few years ago someone told me they didn't like Madame Bovary because of how Emma neglected her child. ??? I guess if a character is "bad" (morally) the book is "bad" (in terms of quality)? I don't know how some people read.

[gmku]

Seems our college library has this book! I'll have to check this out.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

she's in good part the responsible one for getting his cornell lectures on literature published--the intro is by updike. by the way, that is one of the VERY BEST books of literary criticism i've ever read. just fantastic. it's always the artists who write the best criticism. and the best criticism always makes you want to read.



what is teh hemingway book where he drives around with fitzgerald he gets drunk too easily and they talk about his problems? and hemingway tells him to use a pillow so she can get pregnant. that whole look at him was hilarious.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

I think it's A Moveable Feast.

Originally Posted by gmku

Yes, it is. I love that book.

yes yes yes! me too. i could never take fitzgerald seriously after that-- i mean as a person, not as a writer. a weepy drunk. hilarious.

Originally Posted by lucyrulesok

my dad is obsessed with f scott fitzgerald and even wanted to call me zelda

you're lucky he didn't! wasn't she a piece of work?

Originally Posted by evollove

A character isn't even the book. A few years ago someone told me they didn't like Madame Bovary because of how Emma neglected her child. ??? I guess if a character is "bad" (morally) the book is "bad" (in terms of quality)? I don't know how some people read.

how do they read? they don't.

i didn't even know you were supposed to like emma. i mean, everyone in the novel is worse than her but that doesn't make her good.

Originally Posted by gmku

Seems our college library has this book! I'll have to check this out.

you're in for a real treat.

how does he go: "seems to me that caling a movie house a theatre is like calling an undertaker a mortician". or something like that. i'm paraphrasing from memory. hilarious.

[gmku]

Nabokov's humor is one of his qualities that gives him the edge over Updike, for me.

[Rob Instigator]

almost finished with Mort(e)

[lucyrulesok]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

you're lucky he didn't! wasn't she a piece of work?

i know - not exactly flattering....!!

also I already have a ridiculous surname so i would have sounded like a cartoon character

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by lucyrulesok

i know - not exactly flattering....!!

also I already have a ridiculous surname so i would have sounded like a cartoon character

The Adventures of Zelda Pumpernickel

[lucyrulesok]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

The Adventures of Zelda Pumpernickel

close, but it's cheese related rather than bread related

[Rob Instigator]

Zelda Gruyere!

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by lucyrulesok

close, but it's cheese related rather than bread related

poetic / imaginative license. i just went for a good sound. i never thought i'd be so close!

anyway, not to worry. there are some great cheeses!

 

now-- you should start drawing that comic. it could be awesome!

[ilduclo]

 

:'( :'(

[!@#$%!]

looks like i wasn't wrong after all

http://wapo.st/1HvwZE5

[lucyrulesok]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

looks like i wasn't wrong after all

http://wapo.st/1HvwZE5

eye-opening :O

[pony]

for class:

 

for my thesis:

 

[ilduclo]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

looks like i wasn't wrong after all

http://wapo.st/1HvwZE5

so much of what she reviews sounds awfully crappy, though. There's a boatload of great "minority" fiction writers out there ( I use the term as she does, even though I would actually put them in the majority, if she says the word to mean, not white fiction writers).

[evollove]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

looks like i wasn't wrong after all

http://wapo.st/1HvwZE5

I dunno. I thought this applied so much better to music, especially the scenes most of us dig.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

so much of what she reviews sounds awfully crappy, though. There's a boatload of great "minority" fiction writers out there ( I use the term as she does, even though I would actually put them in the majority, if she says the word to mean, not white fiction writers).

i don't know why it would sound crappy. i would agree that being a "minority" doesn't make one a good writer (as college courses showed me), but there are so many "majority" writers who are crap but are read simply because they feed into what people already know (this is the cause of my american literature fatigue in general).

as for the reviewed stuff-- i was curious about that indonesian scifi.

Originally Posted by evollove

I dunno. I thought this applied so much better to music, especially the scenes most of us dig.

i told you to listen to héctor lavoe but you laughed him off!

Originally Posted by pony

for class:

 

i looved the first book. the 2nd one was more depressing. growing up sucks.

[lucyrulesok]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i would agree that being a "minority" doesn't make one a good writer

We had to study 'poems from other cultures' at school and while i know for a fact there are some absolutely amazing poets from other cultures (obviously!) the ones we studied were SO crap which is just insulting really. (although to be fair the english poets we studied were also largely crap)

Here is the anthology for anyone interested - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AQA_Anthology I seem to remember presents from my aunts in Pakistan being particularly bad.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

as for the reviewed stuff-- i was curious about that indonesian scifi.

me too!