[demonrail666]

Another good one is The Omega Man, based on Richard Matheson's novel I Am Legend (and far better than the version with Will Smith). Anyway, great sf take on the whole vampire thing.

Another good horror/sf is Hammer's Quatermass and the Pit.

[ilduclo]

the day the earth stood still

earth vs flying saucers

[Toilet & Bowels]

Is Repo Man sf?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

Is Repo Man sf?

radioactive dead aliens in the trunk stolen by nuclear lab scientist = of course!

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the thing some people have said since the 80s (or so) due to fast technological change science fiction becomes the main mode of understanding the present. which is why it becomes more and more common and less of a specialty/weird genre.

this has to do in part w/ cyberpunk and cyberpunk had to do with the change in our relation with science and technology-- the stuff is no longer big science "out there" but it's close and intimate (the contact lens and the walkman, some writer said, but i'm thinking also the personal computer, the microwave oven, etc), hence the stuff of everyday life. also, AIDS (a bio weapon?), the rise of biotechnology, the universality of plastic surgery, advances in neuroscience, etc.-- technology enters the body rather than outer space.

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anyway while writing this i remembered something from a little earlier--

the man who fell to earth

which was pretty great, and sad as fuck.

[Rob Instigator]

I frankly like all the Aliens flicks, which is why I did not list them all.

[h8kurdt]

So are we all in agreement that it was a silly statement by tesla? Agreed.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

we need a "The Only Valid Psychological Thrillers" thread.

most of David Lynch and Possession(1981) would be in my top six.

not necessarily the only valid but if it is a genre id add

Countless film noir
Vertigo
Sunset Boulevard
All About Eve
Gilda
Possessed (the Joan Crawford film)
The Conversation
Bird With the Crystal Plummage
Marathon Man
The Black Swan
Les Diaboliques
The Parallax View
The Wicker Man
Jacob's Ladder
The Usual Suspects
Repulsion
Dr Mabuse
Eyes Wide Shut
Sleuth
Memento
Spider
Blow Up

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Memento isn't a sci-fi, its a psychological thriller, there isn't any advanced technology involved, if anything, I think the polaroid thing is meant to emphasize the low-tech aspect, even in 2000 polaroids were considered historical. Still no love for Dark City??

[Rob Instigator]

I already proclaimed my love for Dark City

[punkaspoo]

blade runner
sunshine - i really like this one. great picture, great soundtrack
12 monkeys
the first two terminators
alien - nothing wrong with the rest of the quadrilogy but the first one kicks ass
eternal sunshine of the spottless mind - one of my favorites but does it count as scifi?

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Memento isn't a sci-fi, its a psychological thriller, there isn't any advanced technology involved, if anything, I think the polaroid thing is meant to emphasize the low-tech aspect, even in 2000 polaroids were considered historical. Still no love for Dark City??

I don't think any on my list qualify as sf. I treated psychological thriller as completely seperate, although there probably are crossovers. A Scanner Darkly, maybe? 2001?

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

I don't think any on my list qualify as sf. I treated psychological thriller as completely seperate, although there probably are crossovers. A Scanner Darkly, maybe? 2001?

Haha.. I didn't fully read your post, just your list, I just realized you were posting psychological thrillers


A Scanner Darkly is definitely technologically based, and a fantastic film. Probably the only movie aside from Matrix I that Keanu is any good in. And Robert Downey Jr was priceless!!

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

reminds me of an ex-bitch-girlfriend.

I know what you mean.

[Rob Instigator]

Jacob's Ladder scares me everytime. That movie tapped into something horrifying.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Murmer99

What? Have you seen River's Edge? My Own Private Idaho?

River's Edge is cool, My Own Private Idaho is ok.. really his Bill and Ted's is better than those, but Matrix and Scanner Darkly were the only truly superb Keanu flicks. I mean, it was sort of like Trent Dilfer in the 2000 Superbowl for the Ravens. The guy was a mediocre QB at best, but he could make the plays when it counted, and that team was literally one of the best defenses of NFL history. In Matrix and Scanner Darkly, the production, the casting, and the writing more than made up for Keanu's mediocrity. For Keanu a mediocre performance is golden, all the others outright suck.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

River's Edge is cool, My Own Private Idaho is ok.. really his Bill and Ted's is better than those, but Matrix and Scanner Darkly were the only truly superb Keanu flicks.

wait, what? bill and ted better than my own private idaho? what bad drugs are you on?

it's true that my own private idaho belongs to dead phoenix, so if you're talking about keanu i don't know maybe you mean something else, but as a movie-movie, that blows them out of the water.

now speaking of that cartoonish man, i thought he was worst in "dracula" haaaa haaaa haaa trying a fake english accent haaaa haaa haaa.

but what was i going to say? oh yes. johnny mnemonic wasn't a bad movie. okay, a bit cheaply made, a bit of "this cheap set is getting on the way" kind of way, but it was unterrible and his cartoonish accent was a very good fit-- i don't mean now "cartoon comedy" but he developed a series of physical movements for the movie that made him look like a keith haring little man thing on a double-breasted suit. you know the keith haring paintings, i forget what's called, they were even on keychains. but with a suit. like an egyptian hyeroglyphic. you get the idea.

[Toilet & Bowels]

The Matrix sucked! Keanu Reeve's best films are River's Edge, Thumbsucker, and Parenthood.

I still dispute Repo Man being sf, all the aliens and stuff are just weird window dressing from what I remember.

[Rob Instigator]

Repo Man is cyberpunk sci fi all the way.

Keanu was OK in Constantine, Point Break, Matrix I, etc. River's Edge I find boring.

[!@#$%!]

oh shit constatine WAS good! yeah. point break is a bit of a lollercoaster. matrix 1 definitely ruled-- just because the sequels blew dog chunks it doesn't ruin the original.

i haven't ever heard of river's edge. yes, yes, i'll look it up.

[Rob Instigator]

Man, River's Edge was THE hipster/indie flick of the late 80's early 90's. Every nihilistic punk freak I knew loved that flick. It is based on a true story about high school kids so jaded that when a fellow student of theirs kills someone they did not report it but instead kept visiting the body and taking other kids there to look at it (if memory serves), and while I do not enjoy the movie,. it is a good movie and I think, Crispin Glover's first freaky role.

The actual news item was a real freak-out to the squares/regs who could not imagine such jaded children....