[Torn Curtain]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Violent video games/movies/art influence people... everything that you ever experience influences you in SOME way. If a person is already disfunctional, video games might influence them in the wrong way -- but so could art, a book, a movie, a television show, etc. Why not just ban EVERYTHING, since ANYTHING could influence a person negatively?

Good point.

[Rob Instigator]

don;t believe the hype. OF COURSE violent video games and violent movies and shit like that affect children negatively. OF COURSE IT DOES.

the same fuckers that try to pretend it does not are the fuckers that spend millions and hundreds of millions to showcase their product with childrens TV advetrtisements, and to imbed adverts into the videop games themselves. the fucking assholes.

they would have us believe that their imbedded advertisements work to raise revenue and to create a customer base but that the vioence and chaos and outright gore in many video games are doijng NOTHING to a child's head and development? fuck a whole lot of that.

OF COURSE it affects them negatively.

go read about the cyhildren that ahve hurt or killed other children and feel no remorse at all, who kept thinking "it was like a video game". enjoy the end times everyone.

[Rob Instigator]

the point is to not allow children to play games like grand theft auto, or call of duty or any such violent games meant for adults, or at least for teenagers.

the parents that buy theirkids this shit are the fucking problem, and the ones that do not care enough to check what their kids are playing are the fucking problem. go ahead and buy your 10 year olf a computer and a PS3 you fucking morons.

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh

 

Euro 2000

Sorry, but I can't help but laugh. It looks likes his shooting water from his ass.

[atsonicpark]

I played violent video games when I was 6. Never bothered me or affected me in any way. I understand fantasy and reality and the difference. I have watched horror movies MY ENTIRE LIFE. Never once have I felt anything because of it.

As I said, certain art might inspire people -- including kids -- to do things a certain way.. but those people can be influenced by EVERYTHING. And you can't ban/stop everything. You can't force the world to live in a bubble. And, quite frankly, a video game itself isn't going to make a perfectly normal person go "FUCK! I'M GOING TO GO KILL PEOPLE NOW!" It's like saying a person won't ever feel horny unless they watch porn or something... if you are a violent child/teenager/adult, it's not solely because video games made you that way. If they inspire you at all, then okay then... but I've honestly never played a video game that's even half as bad as the shit I see on television every night. Well, I don't watch television... but when I did.

If you're a parent and you're completely confident that your child understands not to reenact grand theft auto in real life, then what's the harm in letting them play the game? The "M" rating on the box is a suggestion -- the person who is playing it should be mature. In the end, I agree it is up to the parent to decide that. But a lot of kids are fine playing that kind of stuff. I knew every fatality in Mortal Kombat when I was 7 years old, and I turned out fine..

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

go read about the cyhildren that ahve hurt or killed other children and feel no remorse at all, who kept thinking "it was like a video game". enjoy the end times everyone.

This is not a valid point. If a child is psychopathic, commits a murder, and if they have played video games will of course compare it to that. In society it is a generally accepted thing that you would feel guilt after committing a murder. The child will have absorbed this view and because they are expecting to feel guilt etc but don't they compare it to when playing a video game as the closest comparison and as an expression of their surprise (or confirmation of what they thought it would be like) that they felt nothing. A child a hundred years ago would probably have compared it to hunting.
Games do not turn children into psychopaths.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Lurker

This is not a valid point. If a child is psychopathic, commits a murder, and if they have played video games will of course compare it to that. In society it is a generally accepted thing that you would feel guilt after committing a murder. The child will have absorbed this view and because they are expecting to feel guilt etc but don't they compare it to when playing a video game as the closest comparison and as an expression of their surprise (or confirmation of what they thought it would be like) that they felt nothing. A child a hundred years ago would probably have compared it to hunting.
Games do not turn children into psychopaths.

no one said it did, what we are saying is that violence in video games played by children has a negative affect on such children. it is brutally obvious and right in front of yr face. no one has posed any kind of solution involving prohibition here, just the acceptance of the above fact, that violence in video games can have a negative affect on children. it doesn't seem that far-fetched to me, and further, what is all this talk about hunting?

what the fuck does killing animals for food in the wilderness have to do with shooting people in an imaginary street for their car? and further, what the fuck did kids in the city do then, if hunting is yr blanket statement for children's entertainment pre-video games.....

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

no one said it did, what we are saying is that violence in video games played by children has a negative affect on such children. it is brutally obvious and right in front of yr face. no one has posed any kind of solution involving prohibition here, just the acceptance of the above fact, that violence in video games can have a negative affect on children. it doesn't seem that far-fetched to me, and further, what is all this talk about hunting?

what the fuck does killing animals for food in the wilderness have to do with shooting people in an imaginary street for their car? and further, what the fuck did kids in the city do then, if hunting is yr blanket statement for children's entertainment pre-video games.....

It was implied by Robinstig's post.

Yes, I understand what you are saying, now back it up with something called an "argument" or something called "evidence". Please don't post on this thread anymore if you are going to continually post variations of saying it's "obvious".

It's not "brutally obvious" (interesting choice of words). In fact the opposite as everyone on this thread who played violent games as a child says that it didn't do anything bad to them. I'm fine.

No it's not far fetched. It is still wrong though.

You want prohibition of computer games and yet you're pro legalisation of marijuana, a drug that can bring about psychosis in predisposed individuals?

I didn't say hunting was entertainment nor is it relevant whether it was or not. I was just using it as an equivalent in the past, ie violent behaviour not directed towards humans.

[sobriquet]

Violent behavior? No.You'll always get the odd one that can't handle it, but I think most kids, can tell the difference between real violence and video game/movie violence. It might however, affect them in other ways.

[Rob Instigator]

most kids are fucking dumb as posts. stop giving them credit for being critically thinking adults. hell, not even half of adults know how to think critically, much less children who are not taught this in schools anymore.

children suck up whatever they are exposed to, and if they are exposed to violence and carnage at a young age they will grow up, like atsonicpark, with no idea whether or not the violence affected them negatively, because they are the ones being affected,

it happens man.

[floatingslowly]

I don't know about violence, but video games make me hungry.

floatingslowly neeeds foood badly.

 

[Rob Instigator]

hahahah GAUNTLET!@

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Yeah games are violent.

 

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

When I lose at a video game I usually punch something. Good thing my computer screen is really hard.

[atsonicpark]

No, I have an idea of how I was affected: The violence didn't affect me at all, because I guess I was just REALLY SMART and knew the difference between fantasy and reality. Not every kid's that smart, granted, but I don't think you give kids ENOUGH credit, Rob. I know 13 year olds that are fucking smarter than half the adults I know. It AMAZES me how advanced kids are nowadays actually. I mean, they kind of have to be, in this computer age.

But yeah... I wasn't influenced to do anything violent at all! The most violent thing I ever did was punch someone in the face after they shoved me, when I was 16! And I've been exposed to all types of violence and horror for years. Though, like I said, I'm desensitized torwards everything now, but how could you not be, with the world we live in? Though, I will try not to use my personal bias to respond to this and will admit not as many people are as strong as I was.... I still don't think video games can be directly blamed for anything -- at least not any more so than, uh, almost ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD that a child could possibly be exposed to. So, again, let's ban everything, I guess!

[Rob Instigator]

advanced and being able to control a TV and an ipod or web surf means NOTHING. it has nothing to do with critical thinking, just rote memory.

[atsonicpark]

Nah, man, kids have to deal with a lot more shit nowadays period. After all the school shootings and 9/11 -- I know it's cliché.. but kids seem a bit more advanced and stronger than they used to be... at least from how I remember my childhood.

Just sayin'.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I played violent video games when I was 6. Never bothered me or affected me in any way... I knew every fatality in Mortal Kombat when I was 7 years old, and I turned out fine..

ha ha ha

are you sure??

[Rob Instigator]

jaded and cynical does not equal to advanced or intelligent man.

more than half of all 8th graders cannot read at an 8th grade level, yet they know how to push a button to make their ipod work, or how to text their friends on the phone. does nto sound advanced to me at all.

[atsonicpark]

Haha okay then Rob.