I don't see the point of another 'shoegaze' band existing ever again, let alone an American one in this time and age.

[therealglenstyler]

talking "around now" or olde ? drop nineteens were olde but goodee

Originally Posted by therealglenstyler

talking "around now" or olde ? drop nineteens were olde but goodee

The are 3 good tracks on ''Delaware''. the rest is so-so. I like ''Wynona'' a lot.

[DJ Rick]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Well, all I was saying is that the whole "up until very recently" thing was what I perceived as highly inaccurate. I was trying to illustrate that it was more the reverse by using examples from the late 1970s and early 1980s, when the UK and Europe in general were kicking the USA's ass in the extreme sounds department. The only ones from the USA doing comparable work at that time were maybe Non and Monte Cazazza.

Borbetomagus
Glenn Branca
Tony Conrad
Doodooettes
Le Forte Four
Men/Eject
Neef
Lee Rockey
Smegma
La Monte Young
Zorn
Zurich 1916

etc....

Virtually every kinda music that has ever been associated with a specific place also existed at its early beginnings elsewhere on the globe, and perhaps even in many different places.

[therealglenstyler]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

The are 3 good tracks on ''Delaware''. the rest is so-so. I like ''Wynona'' a lot.

absolutely, but i'm working on the "isn't anything" principle of shoegaze that states that one or two stone cold classics (wynona) in amongst an otherwise mediocre album work as a counterweight to the so-so stuff and can elevate the album as a whole to legendary status regardless of the overall consistancy of the record.

[gualbert]

There were a lot of shoegaze/noisy pop bands on Trance Syndicate ( Furry Things , 16 deluxe ).
And Belly.

[PAULYBEE2656]

i dunno if these have been mentioned but medecine, swirlies, velocity girl (the copacetic album, the rest is shite), unrest, drop nineteens (delaware is a fantastic record), maserati (i think they are american).

[candymoan]

what about scarling?
wouldn't they fall into the 'gaze category?

Originally Posted by therealglenstyler

absolutely, but i'm working on the "isn't anything" principle of shoegaze that states that one or two stone cold classics (wynona) in amongst an otherwise mediocre album work as a counterweight to the so-so stuff and can elevate the album as a whole to legendary status regardless of the overall consistancy of the record.

''Isn'Anything'' is an infinitely superior album and has a higher number of good songs than ''Delaware''. Drop Nineteens were an ok band but by the time they made ''Panic On'' it was apparent that they weren't going to stay around for long. I love the sleeve of ''Delaware'' with that girl holding the gun.

[atsonicpark]

I give up.

[king_buzzo]

ceremony
a place to bury strangers
airiel
asobi seksu
skywave (must)
autolux
drop ninetnees

[dionysusundone]

Originally Posted by candymoan

what about scarling?
wouldn't they fall into the 'gaze category?

Are we thinking of the same scarling? The one with the chick from Jack Off Jill? I don't remember them being gaze at all. But I don't remember them well either.

[Everyneurotic]

don't know if they are shoegazer or not, but they do share some sonic similarities:

GALAXIE 500

[batreleaser]

yeah i forgot galaxie was american, good call

[PAULYBEE2656]

fuck yeah. galaxie 500. amazing band.... how we all forgot them!

[batreleaser]

Originally Posted by DJ Rick

Borbetomagus
Glenn Branca
Tony Conrad
Doodooettes
Le Forte Four
Men/Eject
Neef
Lee Rockey
Smegma
La Monte Young
Zorn
Zurich 1916

etc....

Virtually every kinda music that has ever been associated with a specific place also existed at its early beginnings elsewhere on the globe, and perhaps even in many different places.

smegma is such an underrated, underaoppreciated, and fucking amazing band! they formed in fuckin 73! they were light years ahead of their time, which was unfortunate for them. i admit it if i was alive back then i woulda found them too nutso as well, white light white head and fun house woulda been as extreme as i woulda gona. their record "pigs for lepers" sounds just as extreme as anything wolf eyes and yellows swans are doing today. theyre still making good music today too, which is needless to say, fuckin awesome.