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sonicl's sonnets |
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9 | 50.00% |
jim morrison's poetry |
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4 | 22.22% |
Barbara Cartland |
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5 | 27.78% |
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Or this:
Saint, Revolutionist Saint, revolutionist, God and sage know well, That there is a place Where that much-rung bell, The well-beloved body, And its sensitive face Must be sacrificed. There is, it seems, in this A something meaningless, Hanging without support And yet too dear to touch, That life should seek its end Where no will can descend, Facing a gun to see Long actuality. What is this that is The good of nothingness, The death of Socrates And that strange man on the cross Seeking out all loss? For men love life until It shames both face and will. Neither in hell nor heaven Is the answer given, Both are a servant's pay: But they wish to know how far the will can go, Lest their infinite play And their desires be Shadow and mockery. Delmore Schwartz |
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Jim Morrison couldnt possibly write anything so deep:
Peggy went down to the shops To buy Kitty a gift The gifts were on the second floor So Peggy took the lift. |
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All you've done is try to choose the most neanderthal of Jim's sentiments to ridiculously attempt to prove an equally ridiculous assertion. Anyone that knows Morrison's poetry is aware that Jim embraced his creatureliness as well as higher mental functions. He was the son of an admiral. He, through his own initiative, mind you, & not because anyone instructed him to do so (in fact he was instructed to do just the opposite), had read a significant portion of the world's great literature by the time he was sixteen. He left home (& a virtually guaranteed life of privilege) out of high school & started hitchhiking. He was always a seeker & a sufferer, which are the necessary catalysts to gain access to the unconscious & create enduring art. |
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Just how did this turn into Delmore Schwartz vs. Jom Morrision?
Actually, I'm sarcastically feigning not knowing how...I know how Delmore Schwartz got mentioned. It's because porkmarras wanted to name drop him & being seemingly incapable to do it in an honest, germane way, he threw it out there willy-nilly in a confrontational way. Look, Delmore Schwartz is a literary figure. He was born to poor immigrants & fostered a poet's soul. sonicl is, on the other hand, some kid that likes to type annoying bragadoccio on internet message boards. Just so we could possibly reach some smidgen of agreement here, I'll offer the following & I hope it lends some understanding. Jim Morrision, as a poet, did a small amount of good work for which he will always be remembered & revered, but yes, Jim Morrison is overrated. What I mean by that is analagous to the visual art world as well. There are millions & millions of people that dig on Morrison's poetry & have never read the sonnets of Shakespeare or Alfred Lord Tennyson or even something more contemporary like Delmore Schwartz, Kingsley Amis or Pablo Neruda for instance, just like there are millions & millions of people that own books on M.C. Escher & Salvador Dali & know next to nothing about Marcel Duchamp or say, Mark Rothko. At least Jim, due to his good influences & thoughtful understanding of the written word, points the way towards the study of mythology & psychology & the personal discovery of greater writers like those of the beat generation & also true masters like Poe & Blake. |
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I was just having some fun, Atari.
Of course I am aware that that is perhaps the dumbest thing he ever wrote. |
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I actually don't think it's dumb at all truth be told. After all, what you quoted is not from a poem, it's a lyric from a song & the line suits "Roadhouse Blues" perfectly.
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Oh,atari but Jim couldnt have possibly written this:
The Heavy Bear
The heavy bear who goes with me, by Delmore Schwartz 1913-1966 "the withness of the body"- Whitehead A manifold honey to smear his face, Clumsy and lumbering here and there, The central ton of every place, The hungry beating brutish one In love with candy, anger, and sleep, Crazy factotum, dishevelling all, Climbs the building, kicks the football, Boxes his brother in the hate-ridden city. Breathing at my side, that heavy animal, That heavy bear who sleeps with me, Howls in his sleep for a world of sugar, A sweetness intimate as the water's clasp, Howls in his sleep because the tight-rope Trembles and shows the darkness beneath. The strutting show-off is terrified, Dressed in his dress-suit, bulging his pants, Trembles to think that his quivering meat Must finally wince to nothing at all. That inescapable animal walks with me, Has followed me since the black womb held, Moves where I move, distorting my gesture, A caricature, a swollen shadow, A stupid clown of the spirit's motive, Perplexes and affronts with his own darkness, The secret life of belly and bone, Opaque, too near, my private, yet unknown, Stretches to embrace the very dear With whom I would walk without him near, Touches her grossly, although a word Would bare my heart and make me clear, Stumbles, flounders, and strives to be fed Dragging me with him in his mouthing care, Amid the six billion of his kind, The scrimmage of appetite everywhere |
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Do you seriously think that I am trying to compare what I have written with Jim Morrison's deep meaningful work? Would I compare the Archies with The Velvet Underground? I really don't remember there being anything in the terms and conditions for this board that it is only to be used for intellectual discourse. If there is anything to that effect in the contract that I implicitly signed when I joined up, please do let me know and I will gladly resign forwith. |
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Philistine!
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Right on sonicl!Or this:
A Dream Within a Dream
Take this kiss upon thy brow by Edgar Allan Poe 1809 - 1849 And, in parting from you now, Thus much let me avow - You are not wrong, to deem That my days have been but a dream; Yet if Hope has flown away In a night, or in a day, In a vision, or in none, Is it therefore the less gone? All that we see or seem Is but a dream within a dream. I stand amid the roar Of a surf-tormented shore, And I hold within my hand Grains of the golden sand-- How few! yet how they creep Through my fingers to the deep, While I weep--while I weep! O God! can I not grasp Them with a tighter clasp? O God! can I not save One from the pitiless wave? Is all that we see or seem But a dream within a dream? |
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You,the second person who voted Barbara Cartland,please come forward.
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Probably Cantankerous. We all know that within her beats a pink fluffy heart.
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Why do I even bother with such pig-headed contrarians?
REPRINT Just how did this turn into Delmore Schwartz vs. Jom Morrision? Actually, I'm sarcastically feigning not knowing how...I know how Delmore Schwartz got mentioned. It's because porkmarras wanted to name drop him & being seemingly incapable to do it in an upfront, genuine, honest & germane way, he threw it out there willy-nilly in a confrontational way. Look, Delmore Schwartz is a literary figure. He was born to poor immigrants & fostered a poet's soul. sonicl is, on the other hand, some kid that likes to type annoying bragadoccio on internet message boards. Now sonicl, with his last post, is PREDICTABLY backtracking & claiming "it was all a big joke"... Just so we could possibly reach some smidgen of agreement here, I'll offer the following & I hope it lends some understanding. Jim Morrision, as a poet, did a small amount of good work for which he will always be remembered & revered, but yes, Jim Morrison is overrated. What I mean by that is analagous to the visual art world as well. There are millions & millions of people that dig on Morrison's poetry & have never read the sonnets of Shakespeare or Alfred Lord Tennyson or even something more contemporary like Delmore Schwartz, Kingsley Amis or Pablo Neruda for instance, just like there are millions & millions of people that own books on M.C. Escher & Salvador Dali & know next to nothing about Marcel Duchamp or say, Mark Rothko. At least Jim, due to his good influences & thoughtful understanding of the written word, points the way towards the study of mythology & psychology & the personal discovery of greater writers like those of the beat generation & also true masters like Poe & Blake. |
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Whatever atari.I'm not even bothered to reply to your rather moody,confrontational post.Think what you like for all i care.Jim Morrison's poetry is garbage.
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What an annoying prick.
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Dude, get your own ideas & vocabulary....please.
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Yeah yeah yeah.Time to take your medication man.Somebody call the nurse.
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Hey, I left this fun thread four hours ago and in the meantime some humourless numbnuts have been let in. Porkmarras, what happened to those virtual bouncers you were going to employ?
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And who the FUCK voted for Jim Morrison over sonicl?
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