Pavement Reuniting, for real - Page 2

ricechex · 09.16.2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Yeah, I don't really "care" about lyrics but why did Malkmus's lyrics suddenly get... non-cryptic... direct.. and uninteresting, after Slanted? Anyone know?

I have no idea what you mean. Malkmus has always been cryptic and/or non-nonsensical, at least far beyond Slanted. Brighten the Corners in part. has some way out lyrics. "One of us is a cigar stand and one of us is a lovely blue incandescent guillotine"..? To me that's one of the trademarks of Pavement, off the top of his head spontaneity.

DanielCarlson · 09.16.2009, 09:48 AM

Could be interesting, I'd see them.

Rob Instigator · 09.16.2009, 10:22 AM

Where's Gary?

noisereductions · 09.16.2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Where's Gary?

hahaha

loubarret · 09.16.2009, 11:20 AM

Jesus lizard first and now pavement, I might turn Christian...

notyourfiend · 09.16.2009, 11:23 AM

wow, for once brooklyn vegan has something interesting to tell me!

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 09.16.2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Inhuman

haha, I find the fact that you found that on Brooklyn Vegan more entertaining than Pavement reforming

I was linked to it. I'm not from Brooklyn nor am I a Vegan

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 09.16.2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I actually think REAL EMOTIONAL TRASH and PIG LIB are both fantastic records, surprisingly (don't like the other two really). I mean, Malkmus is a bit boring as a songwriter (not really into guitar solos and shit usually which a lot of his songs have) and the energy/sloppiness of Pavement's early work is what attracts me to them -- so I'm surprised that he's able to write somewhat "mature" music that is actually quite listenable and interesting and hooky and melodically pleasing. His lyrics lately have been terrible though.. worse than ever.

Yeah, I don't really "care" about lyrics but why did Malkmus's lyrics suddenly get... non-cryptic... direct.. and uninteresting, after Slanted? Anyone know?

I don't think the lyrics on Btc or WZ are non-cryptic, direct, or uninteresting

radarmaker · 09.16.2009, 01:09 PM

Guess I'd better start saving for next May's ATP as well then...

atsonicpark · 09.16.2009, 03:23 PM

You guys really don't think his approach to lyrics changed after Slanted?! Well, they certainly became less interesting to me, what with his tongue-in-cheek references to Smashing Pumpkins and Geddy Lee. They are definitely more straightforward, and they don't scare me anymore.

Also, he sings like an asshole quite often.

automatic bzooty · 09.16.2009, 04:09 PM

malkmus sings like an asshole because he's a smug little asshole. but i like him that way.

Rob Instigator · 09.16.2009, 04:39 PM

yr killing me
yr killing me gain
it's not my fault
it's not my fault again

pretty straightforwards

atsonicpark · 09.16.2009, 04:49 PM

stop breathing
stop breathing for me now
write it on a postcard

range life, i need a range life
so i can settle down
settle down

etc.

Compare that to "grip-force the vials, strip the locks, smash the set, slash the beds .... like a docent's lisp, like a damsel's spit, like a dry gin's twist, like a poor droll sir, like a poke's dull spurs, like a pastor's flock" and so on and so on. I don't know, they just seemed more interesting before... we can debate the crypticness, the directness, etc etc etc all day. I'm just saying, his lyrics suddenly and dramatically got less interesting after Slanted and got less and less interesting until now where they are just dull and boring. Like Malkmus himself, hey!

Rob Instigator · 09.16.2009, 05:04 PM

Parfum V is the GREATEST

she's got the radio active and it makes me feel OK
I don't feel OK

Jeremy · 09.16.2009, 05:05 PM

Well, look at this way. Until the success of Slanted, they weren't really a band, just a way to kill time before jobs and school. Afterwards they actually toured and picked up some new members. As the band grew I think his style changed, since he was technically in a "real" band now. Hence why Slanted is very different from all four of their other records lyrically.

Kinda like Sonic Youth... Compare lyrics to say, The World Looks Red to Dirty Boots or something.

Slanted has some killer lyrics but it's hard to rank them lyrically since after that his lyrics were such a different style.

~Jeremy~

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 09.16.2009, 05:23 PM

Well Slanted and Enchanted sucks anyways. (well not really, but it's my least favorite album of theirs. Terror Twilight I just straight up hate, and thus can't call my least favorite)

Wowee has some pretty weird lyrics on it. I don't really know what the fuck any of those songs are about.

atsonicpark · 09.16.2009, 05:24 PM

Brazillian nuts.

atsonicpark · 09.16.2009, 05:25 PM

# 1. Wowee # 2. Slanted # 3. Westing # 4. CR, CR # 5. Brighten # who cares. TT

GeneticKiss · 09.16.2009, 06:25 PM

Pavement are too old to reunite and for me to take them seriously.

I mean, to me, Pavement is the soundtrack to youth itself, and I just can't see that kind of music being done by people in their late 30s...

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 09.16.2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss

Pavement are too old to reunite and for me to take them seriously.

I mean, to me, Pavement is the soundtrack to youth itself, and I just can't see that kind of music being done by people in their late 30s...

The best bands right now have old people in them. . .

Sonic Youth
Mission of Burma

Oh and:

Wowee Zowee > Brighten the Corners > Westing By Musket > Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain > Slanted and Enchanted > Terror Shitlight

09.16.2009, 09:48 AM	#22
DanielCarlson children of satan Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 345	Could be interesting, I'd see them.
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notyourfiend expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: baltimore, murderland by way of new york city Posts: 1,454	wow, for once brooklyn vegan has something interesting to tell me! __________________
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radarmaker the end of the ugly Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,122	Guess I'd better start saving for next May's ATP as well then...
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09.16.2009, 03:23 PM	#30
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	You guys really don't think his approach to lyrics changed after Slanted?! Well, they certainly became less interesting to me, what with his tongue-in-cheek references to Smashing Pumpkins and Geddy Lee. They are definitely more straightforward, and they don't scare me anymore. Also, he sings like an asshole quite often. __________________
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09.16.2009, 04:09 PM	#31
automatic bzooty invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,859	malkmus sings like an asshole because he's a smug little asshole. but i like him that way.
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09.16.2009, 04:39 PM	#32
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,961	yr killing me yr killing me gain it's not my fault it's not my fault again pretty straightforwards __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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09.16.2009, 04:49 PM	#33
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	stop breathing stop breathing for me now write it on a postcard range life, i need a range life so i can settle down settle down etc. Compare that to "grip-force the vials, strip the locks, smash the set, slash the beds .... like a docent's lisp, like a damsel's spit, like a dry gin's twist, like a poor droll sir, like a poke's dull spurs, like a pastor's flock" and so on and so on. I don't know, they just seemed more interesting before... we can debate the crypticness, the directness, etc etc etc all day. I'm just saying, his lyrics suddenly and dramatically got less interesting after Slanted and got less and less interesting until now where they are just dull and boring. Like Malkmus himself, hey! __________________
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09.16.2009, 05:04 PM	#34
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,961	Parfum V is the GREATEST she's got the radio active and it makes me feel OK I don't feel OK __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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09.16.2009, 05:05 PM	#35
Jeremy 100% Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Batcave Posts: 833	Well, look at this way. Until the success of Slanted, they weren't really a band, just a way to kill time before jobs and school. Afterwards they actually toured and picked up some new members. As the band grew I think his style changed, since he was technically in a "real" band now. Hence why Slanted is very different from all four of their other records lyrically. Kinda like Sonic Youth... Compare lyrics to say, The World Looks Red to Dirty Boots or something. Slanted has some killer lyrics but it's hard to rank them lyrically since after that his lyrics were such a different style. ~Jeremy~ __________________
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09.16.2009, 05:23 PM	#36
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	Well Slanted and Enchanted sucks anyways. (well not really, but it's my least favorite album of theirs. Terror Twilight I just straight up hate, and thus can't call my least favorite) Wowee has some pretty weird lyrics on it. I don't really know what the fuck any of those songs are about.
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Brazillian nuts. __________________
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GeneticKiss expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,666	Pavement are too old to reunite and for me to take them seriously. I mean, to me, Pavement is the soundtrack to youth itself, and I just can't see that kind of music being done by people in their late 30s... __________________ https://handinthefates.bandcamp.com<--music
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