Go Back   Sonic Youth Gossip > Sonic Gossip
Reload this Page Alt tunings - how to write?
Register FAQ Members List Mark Forums Read

 
Thread Tools
Old 04.22.2012, 11:53 AM   #21
demonrail666
invito al cielo
 
demonrail666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 18,510
demonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's assesdemonrail666 kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by atari 2600
A chord is the more or less simultaneous sounding of three or more notes.

So is a powerchord where only two notes are heard not really a chord at all?
demonrail666 is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.22.2012, 12:11 PM   #22
themawt71
the destroyed room
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: chicago
Posts: 570
themawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by demonrail666
So is a powerchord where only two notes are heard not really a chord at all?



music theory as is usually taught says that you must have 3 or more notes to make a chord. i imagine this is based off of triads being the specific group of 3 notes that make up all basic chords.

obviously power chords sometimes only have 2 notes but are still called chords.
the proper way to describe two notes played simultaneously i guess would be to call it an interval not a chord.

i generally just call it a chord tho.
themawt71 is online now   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.22.2012, 12:24 PM   #23
atari 2600
invito al cielo
 
atari 2600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,212
atari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's asses
True, I was stating a definition, not any sort of opinion, inserting “more or less” in that sentence to cover my ass for the exceptions.
atari 2600 is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.24.2012, 11:13 PM   #24
Lee is Free
Administrator
 
Lee is Free's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 175
Lee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's asses
couple more examples--yes I do notate at top strings that are either open or not played. sometimes if there are melodic variants I'll put them all in one chart using "open" dots instead of black dots. I have a couple rubber stamps I've used through-out SY songwriting to make things a little more efficient and these days have a paper template with blank neck diagrams for charting solo stuff (working on a bunch of new ones these days) but often a simple scrawled six-strings will do... Of course one notates the tuning at the top of the page and---makes a recording as soon as anything cool starts to happen...
-L

 


http://www.sonicyouth.com/symu/lee/2...io-jrnl-4-web/
Lee is Free is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.24.2012, 11:20 PM   #25
Lee is Free
Administrator
 
Lee is Free's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 175
Lee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's assesLee is Free kicks all y'all's asses
A couple more scoring/notating examples--yes I do notate at top strings that are either open or not played. sometimes if there are melodic variants I'll put them all in one chart using "open" dots instead of black dots. Fret position(s) are notated along the side of the chart. I have a couple rubber stamps I've used through-out SY songwriting to make things a little more efficient and these days have a paper template with blank neck diagrams for charting solo stuff (working on a bunch of new ones these days) but often a simple scrawled six-strings will do... Of course one notates the tuning at the top of the page and---makes a recording as soon as anything cool starts to happen...
-L

 


 
Lee is Free is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.25.2012, 08:41 AM   #26
scott v
expwy. to yr skull
 
scott v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 1,484
scott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's asses
As was already mentioned this is close to common chord chart notation and is great for noting specific chords in a particular tuning, a great way to reference when writing songs and finding pleasing/workable chords and riffs.

anyone know of any software that does this sorta thing?

I use guitar tablature notation and when playing my guitar and nearby my laptop, I map stuff out in Excel spreadsheets (I've sorta made a base template). Its kinda time consuming because of the many hyphens used to notate all the strings, but works for me... otherwise its handwritten scrawl.

I must be getting old now because I have to both note stuff I come up with (this even sometimes means recording it too) otherwise if i don't pickup the guitar in a few days its vanished...
__________________
 
scott v is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.25.2012, 11:36 AM   #27
themawt71
the destroyed room
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: chicago
Posts: 570
themawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's assesthemawt71 kicks all y'all's asses
hey scott

i had been looking for the same type of software and i found this.

http://www.neckdiagrams.com/

it's 20 something bucks but does a lot of stuff. i'm real happy with it.
themawt71 is online now   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.25.2012, 01:42 PM   #28
fugazifan
invito al cielo
 
fugazifan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,816
fugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's assesfugazifan kicks all y'all's asses
Thanks Lee!

and in regards to what makes a chord. i guess a triad is a three note chord. but i think that in classical theory a chord with only two notes, in the case of a power chord the tonic and dominant, would be considered a chord with a missing third.
__________________
If there's been a way to build it,
There'll be a way to destroy it,
Things are not that out of control

www.myspace.com/dellilahtheband
www.myspace.com/lecirquedesvampiresmusic
fugazifan is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.25.2012, 02:45 PM   #29
scott v
expwy. to yr skull
 
scott v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 1,484
scott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by themawt71
hey scott

i had been looking for the same type of software and i found this.

http://www.neckdiagrams.com/

it's 20 something bucks but does a lot of stuff. i'm real happy with it.

Thanks for passing this on I will look into it!
__________________
 
scott v is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.25.2012, 02:47 PM   #30
scott v
expwy. to yr skull
 
scott v's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 1,484
scott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's assesscott v kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by fugazifan
Thanks Lee!

and in regards to what makes a chord. i guess a triad is a three note chord. but i think that in classical theory a chord with only two notes, in the case of a power chord the tonic and dominant, would be considered a chord with a missing third.

i feel better because i use a ton 2 note chords or missing thirds or whatever they are to be called... also this past year i've been learning to use my pinky finger more prominently into my playing so i'm doing alot more 4 note chords... i have smallish hands/fingers.
__________________
 
scott v is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.25.2012, 05:06 PM   #31
nicfit
invito al cielo
 
nicfit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: banana boat
Posts: 15,570
nicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's assesnicfit kicks all y'all's asses
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee is Free
charting solo stuff (working on a bunch of new ones these days)


Did anybody else notice this?


Thanks to all of you guys, some interesting posts in here.
__________________
11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
nicfit is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 04.30.2012, 06:39 PM   #32
atari 2600
invito al cielo
 
atari 2600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,212
atari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's assesatari 2600 kicks all y'all's asses
Wow, thanks for sharing that link.

clicked on "Chords" and "Scales" as selections over to the right for a few of the tunings...very neat

marvelous user-friendly layout
atari 2600 is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 05.04.2012, 01:10 PM   #33
logicalharm
little trouble girl
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 79
logicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asseslogicalharm kicks all y'all's asses
I've always struggled a bit with guitar so I've found alt tunings sort of helps bring the sounds to ME instead of the other way around.

I have found that sometimes it sort of forces you to be more intuitive....since the spacing and intervals aren't as predictable (unless of course you stick with a certain tuning for a long time)

Not to mention there's nothing like a good open note drone or pair of unison strings!
logicalharm is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|
Old 05.05.2012, 09:36 AM   #34
evollove
invito al cielo
 
evollove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,879
evollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's assesevollove kicks all y'all's asses
Coming soon

SYG COMPILATION II: THE ALT TUNING ALBUM

as soon as someone (not me) volunteers to organize it
evollove is offline   |QUOTE AND REPLY|


Thread Tools

All content ©2006 Sonic Youth