[MellySingsDoom]

^^^Oh , piss off, newbie.

Post something constructive or don't bother posting at all...

[Crumb's Crunchy Delights]

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom

^^^Oh , piss off, newbie.

Post something constructive or don't bother posting at all...

freakin harsh

he's only 11

[MellySingsDoom]

Harsh, but fair. the SY Gossip group hug effect has to be earned.

damn I missed him here

[girlgun]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

better!

anyway i found you some crap. some might be helpful, some might not:

http://atheistnewsandviews.com/Athei..._His_Children/

http://www.ethicalatheist.com/forum/...pic.php?t=1817

this requires registration:

http://richarddawkins.net/forum/view...php?f=52&t=636

but i'm not an atheist. at all. i don't believe the stuff that says, although i appreciate your google skillz like mad.

[gmku]

Or you could simply tell him that Jesus died so that your son could be saved.

[Crumb's Crunchy Delights]

daddy's conspicuous by his absence

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by girlgun

but i'm not an atheist. at all. i don't believe the stuff that says, although i appreciate your google skillz like mad.

so ok so what are you telling him in terms of such shit as "the soul"?

i know the dad is a robot, but are you a voodoo priestess?

splainnn.

[Crumb's Crunchy Delights]

Originally Posted by milkbubble

insane

i agree

[girlgun]

Originally Posted by gmku

Or you could simply tell him that Jesus died so that your son could be saved.

i told him that some believe that and it's okay if HE wants to believe that....it's for him to determine.

yes, insane. totally insane.

symbol guy... i said earlier that i believe we have a soul or life force or energy, but i don't know which. i just feel we aren't machines.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by girlgun

symbol guy... i said earlier that i believe we have a soul or life force or energy, but i don't know which. i just feel we aren't machines.

must have been one of those things buried in thick paragraphs.

anyway, how do you cope with the idea of death? you can feed the same bullshit to your son.

im kinda coping the opposite way-- there is no soul, there is no me, so what the fuck do i have to worry about?

[gmku]

This sort of reminds me of when my wife and I went and checked out a psychologist to possibly see one of our kids about a problem. We emphasized that we didn't want anything that was based in religion. The guy said, No problem, he understood, and then about halfway through our screening interview, he pops up with this gem: "So have you ever thought about asking him/her about honoring thy father and mother?"

I seriously wanted to stand up and punch the guy in the face.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by gmku

This sort of reminds me of when my wife and I went and checked out a psychologist to possibly see one of our kids about a problem. We emphasized that we didn't want anything that was based in religion. The guy said, No problem, he understood, and then about halfway through our screening interview, he pops up with this gem: "So have you ever thought about asking him/her about honoring thy father and mother?"

I seriously wanted to stand up and punch the guy in the face.

you should have. what a fucking cunt.

[gmku]

No shit. I was so angry. Pompous ass.

Needless to say, this occured in good old South Carolina.

[Savage Clone]

I wasn't raised with religion either, just encouraged to read and think.
That's all you can do; you have a sensitive kid and he's gonna dive into the deep end where it's uncomfortable. I guess there are some things you can't really make any easier for him, much as you'd like to. He'll get there.

I have had one weird experience.
I had a friend who was an interesting, mercurial type artist/musician/plunderphonics guy who I occasionally collaborated with, but wasn't terribly close to. He was the kind of guy who would up and move across the country on a whim, that sort of thing.
Anyway, my wife and I were on a cross-country road trip to one of the Terrastock fests one year, and we got to talking about this guy, who we hadn't seen in a while. She said to me, "You know, I wouldn't be surprised if sometime we heard that he had died some kind of mysterious, sudden death."
When we got to the fest, we met up with some other friends from Mpls, and the first thing they said to us was "Did you hear about "...?" He just dropped dead suddently yesterday (the day we were talking about him)."

It turned out to be from having an enlarged heart, but it was a mystery for a while afterward.

[girlgun]

that's weird, clone. ick. weird shit. weird weird.

again... sorry for the ramble. i guess i was venting.

[cryptowonderdruginvogue]

You should tell him that if he cries again you'll tell all his classmates

[Cantankerous]

well i'm probably not the best person to be giving advice about children or anything, but
i would encourage him to believe in whatever he wants to believe in. spirituality and religion are two different things.

[Sonic Youth 37]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

spirituality and religion are two different things.

A thousand times yes. And they have nothing to do with each other, at least I feel. My beliefs spiritually can differ almost wholly from my religious affiliation.

[MellySingsDoom]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

spirituality and religion are two different things.

Glad somebody else agrees w/this - me and T&B discussed this on a previous thread - his point was that religion contains sprituality, so what's the difference? My point was that "religion" is a political racket, which uses the concept of spirituality to sucker people in (the "eternal life in heaven" bullshit). To me, religion (espesh monotheism) is simply a way of controlling people - much like captalism/communism etc etc.