[tesla69]

Originally Posted by Pookie

Cheap shot. Shit things are too easy to mock.

I just have no use for black metal, it was defined by Venom in the 80's and then codified by a bunch of Scandanavians and everything I've ever heard sounds exactly the same.

I just don't get it. Its a strange type of nostalgia.

And it is fucking ugliness.

[demonrail666]

It'll be cool if he goes a bit racist.

[Pookie]

Mid-life crisis?

[Lazewski]

Seeing the words 'Thurston Moore' and 'Twilight' together makes me cringe.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

Well, this can´t be worse than Metallica and Lou Reed.

EVERYTHING is worse than Metallica and Lou Reed

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

He is too tall to be in a KISS tribute band!

If he doesn't wear any platform heels he'll be fine.

[chrome noise tape]

Originally Posted by Pookie

Mid-life crisis?

Andropause could be very hard for men...specialy if they wanna play whatever metal

[Magic Wheel Memory]

First, let me say that I have never been a fan who automatically likes every side project Thurston has done. I listened to some of Twilight's first record the other night, fully expecting to hate it. I've always liked metal, but what little I had heard of black metal left me unimpressed. But this was surprisingly good, except for the silly vocal style that seems to be prevalent in this kind of music. There was some melody underneath the sheets of noise. I can even see parallels with some of Sonic Youth's stuff. So, what struck me as a case of "strange bedfellows" actually makes a little sense to me now. I wouldn't mind seeing them live.

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by tesla69

I just have no use for black metal, it was defined by Venom in the 80's and then codified by a bunch of Scandanavians and everything I've ever heard sounds exactly the same.

I just don't get it. Its a strange type of nostalgia.

And it is fucking ugliness.

So you´ve heard all the world´s Black metal-records?

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

I think artists should do whatever the fuck they want.

Totally agree, I just descriped what kind of art making I enjoy. If some artist enjoy repeating himself endlessly, it´s ok to me.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

EVERYTHING is worse than Metallica and Lou Reed

Try living below someone who has a wooden floor and wears high heels.

[Starcat]

Black Metal is the only genre I've ever heard that manages to make noise and aggression sound boring. Thurston's too nice and too cool and too much of a sonic wizard for such a genre to deserve, but if anyone could make something interesting out of it, it would be him. I'm curious, but neither outraged nor excited. Definitely rings of a mid-life crises, at any rate

[blunderbuss]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Try living below someone who has a wooden floor and wears high heels.

I didn't know you lived below Robbie Savage.

[demonrail666]

Imagine what it was like when the fucker was practicing for Strictly.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Starcat

Black Metal is the only genre I've ever heard that manages to make noise and aggression sound boring. Thurston's too nice and too cool and too much of a sonic wizard for such a genre to deserve, but if anyone could make something interesting out of it, it would be him. I'm curious, but neither outraged nor excited. Definitely rings of a mid-life crises, at any rate

Whatever BM's shortcomings, Thurston turning up in his muscle car with his hair in a ponytail hardly sounds like any kind of remedy. Good luck to him though. Living the dream.

[Savage Clone]

Originally Posted by Starcat

Black Metal is the only genre I've ever heard that manages to make noise and aggression sound boring. Thurston's too nice and too cool and too much of a sonic wizard for such a genre to deserve, but if anyone could make something interesting out of it, it would be him. I'm curious, but neither outraged nor excited. Definitely rings of a mid-life crises, at any rate

Al this talk of mid-life crisis as a motivator really pisses me off as a middle aged person who has ALWAYS BEEN IN BANDS FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

Thurston is a musician. He is a "band person." He likes "music." Like most people with decent taste, he listens to things outside the areas in which he himself has historically played. Jesus. He wants to explore a new avenue in an area of music that he enjoys and is outside his usual stylistic parameters (though I argue that BM has many qualities that appeal to noise/sonic/no wave fans [tremolo chord picking, raw recording quality and dissonance for instance], and those qualities were in fact what got me interested in Burzum in the early/mid 90s and made me a metal fan when I had previously dismissed the entire field out of hand), and I say good for him.

A fucking midlife crisis band is a guy picking up his guitar after "giving up that youthful bullshit" and playing AC/DC covers or Blueshammer shit with his buddies from work at some neighborhood bar.

Thurston is a lifelong musician. He has always made music and will continue to do it. BIG FUCKING SHOCK. No one is levelling the midlife tag at Lee for continuing to make music he enjoys at this point.

I am not super into Twilight (bought the first LP and didn't wind up keeoing it after a few listens), but it's a solid group and has an audience and there are far worse ways Thurston could have scratched his black metal itch.

Zygotes, man. You come back when you're 40+ and we'll see if you're still even remotely cool. If you are, I guess it's a "crisis."


Fuck it.

[blunderbuss]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

You come back when you're 40+ and we'll see if you're still even remotely cool. If you are, I guess it's a "crisis."

You were doing so well until this line.

[Savage Clone]

I guess that was unfair, but I have seen a lot of cool young people turn into squares right before my eyes.

[Savage Clone]

(I guess I just get sensitive and annoyed about these things. You stay current and try to remain vital and "in the now" and it looks like a midlife crisis, you stick to your guns and you're "a sad old man living in the past." These things are usually only uttered by people too young to have had to deal with aging and not turning square...)

[hypertonic]

I think you are totally on point. Mid-life? Uhhh a little late for that hrhrhr. Sorry had to get a bit black there .

I am fairly surprised at the lack of BM fans here. I myself am not the biggest fan, however after getting a couple of my good friends into more dissonant music, they had found themselves pretty well obsessed with it and went about buying a good swath of all the better stuff on vinyl. My buddy even looking into running an online record shop for it. It's not my favorite of the boundary pushing/noise/dissonant/whatever genres, however..

I do totally dig some black metal... when done right. My personal tastes are more on the modern side like WITTR, Krallice and a few of the classics (Burzum, et al.). I cannot stand ANY regular metal, hair metal, or Metallica BS. Black fucking Metal or STFU. It just has the aesthetics noise rock fans love... for me anyway.