[sonicl]

I think truely ambitious people will never be satisfied with their achievements. Once they've achieved one ambition they will move onto a new one - to no longer be striving for something would be like death for them.

[jon boy]

what i dont like is when people havnt been succesfull and try to live their ambitions out through their children.

[sonicl]

Originally Posted by jon boy

what i dont like is when people havnt been succesfull and try to live their ambitions out through their children.

Equally damaging is when people have been successful and their children feel pressure to match that success.

[jon boy]

nefeli please continue.

its true that to each person thier level of ambition will be different as we are all motivated and have experienced things differently.

i think though that we are all collectively in revultion of yuppies and power mad money grabbers. even they dont like those people.

[Savage Clone]

I have aspirations more than ambition.

I'm not the type to climb the social/career ladder either, but in music I would say I am very driven to create something respectable. I do think my own satisfaction and the respect of my peers is a higher priority in my mind than gaining a huge audience though, and in any case I wouldn't want to be really "famous" with all that entails in today's climate.

I don't know how ambitious I could consider myself when a solid and decently-sustainable "cult status" is all that I'm aspiring to.

[gmku]

I'd vote but, you know, I don't see the point...

[sonicl]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

II wouldn't want to be really "famous" with all that entails in today's climate.

Oh, go on, become famous. We can sell your embarresing pictures to the tabloid papers.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

There's two kinds of ambition.

1. The I-will-succeed-regardless-of-what-at-and-how type. Stand up Gwen Steffani

2. The I'm-committed-to-what-I-do-and-intend-for-it-to-be-successful type.
Stand up any well adjusted person.

thanks for saving me the explanation; i'm not sure i'm "well adjusted" but NUMERO DOS (2) applies here.

[Savage Clone]

Oh yeah, with the music I make, gigantic fame is totally in the cards.







*cough*

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I don't know how ambitious I could consider myself when a solid and decently-sustainable "cult status" is all that I'm aspiring to.

you wanna be the next sun myung moon, dontcha?

[sonicl]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Oh yeah, with the music I make, gigantic fame is totally in the cards.

Well change the music you make then, dummy! You make a small sacrifice, I make money.

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Oh yeah, with the music I make, gigantic fame is totally in the cards.







*cough*

have you got your best compliment fishing outfit on?

[Savage Clone]

That was meant to be a realistic assessment, but whatever.

One doesn't have to sell millions of records and be on the tabloids all the time to live comfortably off their music and get some respect without whoring themselves unnecessarily.

[sonicl]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

That was meant to be a realistic assessment, but whatever.

Are your feelings hurt? I'm sorry

[pokkeherrie]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

thanks for saving me the explanation; i'm not sure i'm "well adjusted" but NUMERO DOS (2) applies here.

personally i don't think being-committed-to-what-you-do-and-wanting-it-to-be-succesful requires ambition but that's just my definition perhaps.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

It's when people seem only motivated by shallowness and money-making that it really puts me off them.I don't generally think that that it is a good and fullfilling way to spend your life but if someone does, good luck to them.

and porks, being that i am self-employed, and i do it for the money. i HAVE to be ambitious in this regard because if i'm not somebody else will have my job/contracts/lunch money.

now, i'm not obsessed with this; i have other aspirations, like writing certain things i shall not discuss here; but right now i am very concerned with my survival, and with achieving a little financial security for me and madame !@#$%! (who also works her ass of, and is a filmmaker). oh yes-- real poverty (i have tasted it) is fucking horrid, horrid.

[Savage Clone]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

One doesn't have to sell millions of records and be on the tabloids all the time to live comfortably off their music and i get some respect without whoring themselves unnecessarily.

That's what I was trying to say, but you have put it better.
By "sustainable cult status" I was basically talking about being able to have a modest but OK living via music with no day job.
That's about as ambitious as I get, but I guess it is an ambition.

[screamingskull]

i guess i am ambitious, i have goals, or dreams. I'd love to have my photographic work published in my own book, this is what keeps me going to college day in day out. I don't really mind if i am very rich or not, as long as i have good family and friends i don't care.

[krastian]

I used to be ambitious as hell, but now my soul is dead.