Some movies I saw recently. . . - Page 2

nicfit · 03.20.2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I want first and foremost to be entertained, which his movies do not do, and secondly I want to b given the tools IN the movie itself to understand the movie itself.

I totally understand your point, but if this is what you want and search for in a movie it's clear from the start that you won't enjoy Lynch's movies. But you have to admit that other people can fully enjoy "pointless" movies that put them in a strange state of mind/puzzle them like lynch movies do. It's a little semplicistic (?), I know, but I find it really hard to express in english what my mind is thinking in italian

edit: and it's better not to turn this thread into a discussion on Lynch...

racehorse · 03.20.2007, 01:53 PM

i find his movies extremely entertaining, they are cinematic pyrotechnics - his movies leave the door ajar so that you can explore them yourself, his ideas are powerful and original, for me they are entertaining for the act of art/creativity itself. but if you don't like him you never will i guess.

nicfit · 03.20.2007, 01:56 PM

I agree with you racehorse, I love how thoughts/feelings "induced" by lych's movies come into my mind in random moments... aaaaaaaaaargh I can't express myself better today...

LifeDistortion · 03.20.2007, 01:57 PM

I saw "The Science of Sleep" a few nights ago and while I wanted to love the film, it was a movie I'd wanted to see since I first saw the trailer, the movie itself only ended up as a good film. I think this was the case with a lots of the reviews, it seemed like it could have been a great film, that ended up sort of just good, like it was lacking a bit. It also didn't help that half the film was in french and half was in english, would have preffered one or the other, I'm fine with subtitles but make the whole thing in subtitles or just make it all in english, not half of the film one language half the film in another.

Everyneurotic · 03.20.2007, 02:02 PM

last movie i saw was say anything, i love it.

Rob Instigator · 03.20.2007, 02:07 PM

I agree fully nicfit, as everyone is entitled to enjoy what they enjoy and I in no way wish to shove my tastes onto anyone. Lynch is just someone who brings to me great distaste.

I find that the state of mind which Lynch seeks to achieve in his viewers through his latest films is achievable by me much more to my satisfaction from literature. Frankly, much everything that film achieves is better achieved through literature, but that is a moot point as I am only describing my own personal tastes in the matter.

I find it is easier to confuse and confound one's audience with trickery and dream logic than it is to confuse and confound one's audience through actual storytelling. It is much more pleasing to me when it is the latter.

nicfit · 03.20.2007, 02:14 PM

I agree fully with you, Rob, except for the line "the state of mind which Lynch seeks to achieve in his viewers", I don't think he aims to induct a specific state of mind, it's up to the viewers to "let themselves go" and see where their mind goes, he just gives a sort of "input" on where to start this sort of "inner journey" from... ARgh, now I'll stop, sorry but I really son't feel at ease expressing myself in english

forgive me

Rob Instigator · 03.20.2007, 02:26 PM

hey, you are doing a great job man, I fully understand and it is clear and great english. chill!

!@#$%! · 03.20.2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nicfit

I agree fully with you, Rob, except for the line "the state of mind which Lynch seeks to achieve in his viewers", I don't think he aims to induct a specific state of mind, it's up to the viewers to "let themselves go" and see where their mind goes, he just gives a sort of "input" on where to start this sort of "inner journey" from... ARgh, now I'll stop, sorry but I really son't feel at ease expressing myself in english

forgive me

my "inner journey" with inland empire led me to "deep sleep"

(i enjoyed mulholland drive though)

SynthethicalY · 03.20.2007, 02:28 PM

Have never seen any of Lynch's movie.

!@#$%! · 03.20.2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY

Have never seen any of Lynch's movie.

start with blue velvet-- awesome

or you could do "the elephant man" first, even.

also see if you can find the 1st season of "twin peaks". ive never seen the 2nd one and i think ... i dont know.

SynthethicalY · 03.20.2007, 02:36 PM

I will. On regards to Marie Antoinette I thought it was pretty good. I like the way it was shot, it was wonderfully shot. But I think I know what you guys mean by the plot, there are times it is slow.

noumenal · 03.20.2007, 02:38 PM

I'm going to go see a film called The Lives of Others today.

I saw The Science of Sleep - it was OK, not as good as Eternal Sunshine.

Marie Antoinette was OK, not as good as Lost in Translation.

I love Blue Velvet, Eraserhead is OK. I hate Mulholland Dr. and Twin Peaks. For the most part, I agree with Robin Stigator

!@#$%! · 03.20.2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY

I will. On regards to Marie Antoinette I thought it was pretty good. I like the way it was shot, it was wonderfully shot. But I think I know what you guys mean by the plot, there are times it is slow.

oh yeah it was pretty really pretty & all but it was a 2-hour long music video!! pointless!! she could have made a bunch of little video clips for each song & release it as dvd that would have been more entertaining.

now i do get sofia's point of view about "the girl" & all that, it's just that, it's beyond slow... i like slow movies! i just re-watched the deer hunter the other day. there is a difference between "slow" and "amorphous shit" though.

SynthethicalY · 03.20.2007, 02:42 PM

Ha, yeah it could have been a dvd for a music video for each one. But I still think it was good. But each to his own.

!@#$%! · 03.20.2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY

Ha, yeah it could have been a dvd for a music video for each one. But I still think it was good. But each to his own.

well actually im happy some people like it because i have a bit of a crush on her and i felt bad about not liking this one, ha ha.

SynthethicalY · 03.20.2007, 02:45 PM

Who, Kirsten or Sofia?

!@#$%! · 03.20.2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY

Who, Kirsten or Sofia?

sofia of course-- she's lovely. kirsten is pretty, but dumb as a fucking doorknob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igt1o7HSyXI

SynthethicalY · 03.20.2007, 02:49 PM

I won't look, I used to fantasize about Kirsten in my teenage years.

Rob Instigator · 03.20.2007, 02:50 PM

Marie Antoinette was a fucking WHORE

it's good that the bitch got decapitated.

03.20.2007, 01:53 PM	#22
racehorse 100% Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 784	i find his movies extremely entertaining, they are cinematic pyrotechnics - his movies leave the door ajar so that you can explore them yourself, his ideas are powerful and original, for me they are entertaining for the act of art/creativity itself. but if you don't like him you never will i guess. __________________ She holds the room up by talk alone
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nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	I agree with you racehorse, I love how thoughts/feelings "induced" by lych's movies come into my mind in random moments... aaaaaaaaaargh I can't express myself better today... __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	I saw "The Science of Sleep" a few nights ago and while I wanted to love the film, it was a movie I'd wanted to see since I first saw the trailer, the movie itself only ended up as a good film. I think this was the case with a lots of the reviews, it seemed like it could have been a great film, that ended up sort of just good, like it was lacking a bit. It also didn't help that half the film was in french and half was in english, would have preffered one or the other, I'm fine with subtitles but make the whole thing in subtitles or just make it all in english, not half of the film one language half the film in another.
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03.20.2007, 02:07 PM	#26
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	I agree fully nicfit, as everyone is entitled to enjoy what they enjoy and I in no way wish to shove my tastes onto anyone. Lynch is just someone who brings to me great distaste. I find that the state of mind which Lynch seeks to achieve in his viewers through his latest films is achievable by me much more to my satisfaction from literature. Frankly, much everything that film achieves is better achieved through literature, but that is a moot point as I am only describing my own personal tastes in the matter. I find it is easier to confuse and confound one's audience with trickery and dream logic than it is to confuse and confound one's audience through actual storytelling. It is much more pleasing to me when it is the latter. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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03.20.2007, 02:14 PM	#27
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	I agree fully with you, Rob, except for the line "the state of mind which Lynch seeks to achieve in his viewers", I don't think he aims to induct a specific state of mind, it's up to the viewers to "let themselves go" and see where their mind goes, he just gives a sort of "input" on where to start this sort of "inner journey" from... ARgh, now I'll stop, sorry but I really son't feel at ease expressing myself in english forgive me __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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03.20.2007, 02:26 PM	#28
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	hey, you are doing a great job man, I fully understand and it is clear and great english. chill! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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03.20.2007, 02:28 PM	#30
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Have never seen any of Lynch's movie.
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03.20.2007, 02:36 PM	#32
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	I will. On regards to Marie Antoinette I thought it was pretty good. I like the way it was shot, it was wonderfully shot. But I think I know what you guys mean by the plot, there are times it is slow.
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03.20.2007, 02:38 PM	#33
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	I'm going to go see a film called The Lives of Others today. I saw The Science of Sleep - it was OK, not as good as Eternal Sunshine. Marie Antoinette was OK, not as good as Lost in Translation. I love Blue Velvet, Eraserhead is OK. I hate Mulholland Dr. and Twin Peaks. For the most part, I agree with Robin Stigator
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03.20.2007, 02:42 PM	#35
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Ha, yeah it could have been a dvd for a music video for each one. But I still think it was good. But each to his own.
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03.20.2007, 02:45 PM	#37
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Who, Kirsten or Sofia?
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03.20.2007, 02:49 PM	#39
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	I won't look, I used to fantasize about Kirsten in my teenage years.
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03.20.2007, 02:50 PM	#40
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	Marie Antoinette was a fucking WHORE it's good that the bitch got decapitated. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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