Lemonade - fizzy or flat? - Page 2

truncated · 04.13.2006, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by noumenal

OK, having looked at the OED, here's the deal:

The suffix -ade in this context means "The product of an action, and, by extension, that of any process or raw material; as in arcade, colonnade, masquerade, lemonade, marmalade, pomade. " In other words, lemonade is something made from lemons.

Lemonade is defined as "A drink made of lemon-juice and water, sweetened with sugar." And there is a note that says: "In England now very commonly applied to ‘aerated lemonade’, which consists of water impregnated with carbonic acid with the addition of lemon-juice and sugar."

Yeah, when I looked up the definition of lemonade, there was an added bit about it being "still or carbonated."

However, I looked up orangeade, and that exists as a word in the OED, the UK version mind you, but exists nonetheless: "a fizzy soft drink flavored with orange." The very wording of that definition would suggest that the 'ade' correlates with the fizzy soft drink.

This is the most moronic, pointless debate ever.

It just pissed me off, being rebutted on something that is very obviously regional. And I repeat, he drinks Irn Bru. Have you ever tasted that shit? Anyone who drinks that can never be considered a beverage authority.

Hip Priest · 04.13.2006, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by truncated

...he drinks Irn Bru. Have you ever tasted that shit? Anyone who drinks that can never be considered a beverage authority.

True. Irn Bru is indeed strange. Incredible as it may seem, you can now buy pre-mixed whiskey and vodka with Irn Bru.

But did you ever taste Vimto? Or do you have it in the U.S? That's a fantastic tast.

I England, Lemonade etc is indeed always sparkling, unless it's specifically described as 'still' lemonade.

Hip Priest · 04.13.2006, 05:43 AM

Also, it's innacurate in the main to describe our lemonade as deriving from lemons - most of it is derived from artificial flavourings, such is the age we live in. In fact, , so unusual is it for lemonade to have had contact with fruit, that the fact is proudly proclaimed on the label.

Sainsbury's do a rather nice appple and melon flavour ade.

noumenal · 04.13.2006, 06:04 AM

Homemade lemonade is really good.

sonicl · 04.13.2006, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by noumenal

Homemade lemonade is really good.

Indeed it is. And so easy to make for something so nice.

samuel · 04.13.2006, 10:34 AM

pink lemonade annoys me
I like yellow

my dictionary defines -ade as
"a sweetened beverage of" too

thewall91 · 04.13.2006, 11:07 AM

Kool-aid is not carbonated, but the "i" in the suffix might suggest it aids one in being kool. I prefer the grape.

carbonated lemonade sucks. they should change that spelling to lemonaid, because the "i" would then aid the drink into sucking more.

Katy · 04.13.2006, 11:32 AM

Non-carbonated lemonade is generally (in the UK) called Lemon squash, isn't it?

Not being a non-alcoholic beverage expert I can't tell you for sure. But I'd call a fizzy lemon-flavored drink "lemonade" and a non-fizzy lemon-flavored drink "lemon squash". If confronted.

They give you lemon squash after you donate blood, you know. That's the only time (outside of nursery school) I've ever drunk it.

pao-lino · 04.13.2006, 12:43 PM

!flat!
sprite and seven up suck.
when I was in the states I drank a lot of pink lemonade... I also bought the powder-bags to make it, just cos I was 14 and exicted.
the real best lemonade is the hand squeezed-lemons one.

you americans also have CO2iced-tea...that's disgusting.

Savage Clone · 04.13.2006, 12:51 PM

pao-lino, this is one American who hates bubbly drinks.

Maybe after this exiting topic, we can move on to discussing our preferences for crushed or cubed ice.

Hip Priest · 04.13.2006, 12:52 PM

I'll give you guys my special ice-cube recipe if there's enough demand!

pao-lino · 04.13.2006, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Maybe after this exiting topic, we can move on to discussing our preferences for crushed or cubed ice.

yeah, high level of speculation.

mmm... mojito's crashed ice with mint... fresh.

truncated · 04.13.2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

pao-lino, this is one American who hates bubbly drinks.

Maybe after this exiting topic, we can move on to discussing our preferences for crushed or cubed ice.

Bite me vaj boy

Savage Clone · 04.13.2006, 01:28 PM

I was being totally serious.
This has been riveting.

truncated · 04.13.2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I was being totally serious.
This has been riveting.

...
Bite me vaj boy.

Savage Clone · 04.13.2006, 01:56 PM

Ooh, good comeback.

truncated · 04.13.2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Ooh, good comeback.

I'm lost for words. Your efforts to patronize me are deeply hurtful. I sit here in an emotional ruin as I type this.

Savage Clone · 04.13.2006, 02:23 PM

I find this oddly satisfying.

truncated · 04.13.2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I find this oddly satisfying.

Sadist! I'm so glad you're taking pleasure in my suffering.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.13.2006, 08:19 PM

there's something here that needs to be addressed immeadiatly, which is the english definition of an english word, is always going to be correct over whatever (horrendous) meanings have been attached to said word in the americas.

and cherryade, lemonade etc.. aren't brands it's like a generic term. we have cherry coke, although not cherry pepsi.

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Hip Priest invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Birkenhead Posts: 9,397	Also, it's innacurate in the main to describe our lemonade as deriving from lemons - most of it is derived from artificial flavourings, such is the age we live in. In fact, , so unusual is it for lemonade to have had contact with fruit, that the fact is proudly proclaimed on the label. Sainsbury's do a rather nice appple and melon flavour ade. __________________ Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. http://www.flickr.com/photos/outsidethecamp/
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noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	Homemade lemonade is really good.
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samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,174	pink lemonade annoys me I like yellow my dictionary defines -ade as "a sweetened beverage of" too
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thewall91 children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 383	Kool-aid is not carbonated, but the "i" in the suffix might suggest it aids one in being kool. I prefer the grape. carbonated lemonade sucks. they should change that spelling to lemonaid, because the "i" would then aid the drink into sucking more.
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04.13.2006, 11:32 AM	#28
Katy the destroyed room Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: London, UK. Posts: 643	Non-carbonated lemonade is generally (in the UK) called Lemon squash, isn't it? Not being a non-alcoholic beverage expert I can't tell you for sure. But I'd call a fizzy lemon-flavored drink "lemonade" and a non-fizzy lemon-flavored drink "lemon squash". If confronted. They give you lemon squash after you donate blood, you know. That's the only time (outside of nursery school) I've ever drunk it.
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pao-lino bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 200	!flat! sprite and seven up suck. when I was in the states I drank a lot of pink lemonade... I also bought the powder-bags to make it, just cos I was 14 and exicted. the real best lemonade is the hand squeezed-lemons one. you americans also have CO2iced-tea...that's disgusting.
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	pao-lino, this is one American who hates bubbly drinks. Maybe after this exiting topic, we can move on to discussing our preferences for crushed or cubed ice.
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Hip Priest invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Birkenhead Posts: 9,397	I'll give you guys my special ice-cube recipe if there's enough demand! __________________ Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. http://www.flickr.com/photos/outsidethecamp/
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	I was being totally serious. This has been riveting.
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	Ooh, good comeback.
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	I find this oddly satisfying.
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04.13.2006, 08:19 PM	#40
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,271	there's something here that needs to be addressed immeadiatly, which is the english definition of an english word, is always going to be correct over whatever (horrendous) meanings have been attached to said word in the americas. and cherryade, lemonade etc.. aren't brands it's like a generic term. we have cherry coke, although not cherry pepsi.
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