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Old 01.09.2008, 03:19 PM   #21
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Old 01.09.2008, 03:22 PM   #22
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Old 01.09.2008, 04:22 PM   #23
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I practice my singing with guitar hero. It has helped me tremendously. Give it a whirl!
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Old 01.09.2008, 04:27 PM   #24
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I've never been able to sing in front of anybody. Are you kidding--give me a break. At the same time, I think I have a fair voice and I'm not tone deaf.

I can sometimes play my guitar in front of people but I never sing when I do so.
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Old 01.09.2008, 04:28 PM   #25
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I go back and forth between adequate and super-lame.
It's a total crapshoot.
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Old 01.09.2008, 05:44 PM   #26
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Figuring out what sounds good to you... I think that's a bit of a no brainer, surely? Try melodies without any backing, recorded on tape. Play it back, figure out if you like (it's a funny thing that, in spite of producing the sound, very few people can hear their own singing).

In terms of strengthening the voice, unfortunately it's a boring case of either getting lessons or playing a few inflections of a scale up and down and then moving up a semitone and doing the same, for hours and hours on end. And all that guff about breathing, eating well, not smoking (arf) and such.

Yeah, This is good advice. Rob has also given good advice.

Sing acapella into a recording device and listen back and go "this sucks" and work on it and find exactly how your voice operates. Then some form of structure and melody will flow pretty consistantly once your voice comes subconciously.
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Old 01.09.2008, 05:46 PM   #27
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just use your own voice, dude. i do. maybe i got lucky and was somehow blessed with a decent singing voice.
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Old 01.09.2008, 05:53 PM   #28
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I think he's more asking how to construct vocal melodies, vocal approach etc.
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well i don't know, i just sing. my voice has an airy quality about it even when i sing loudly. and if it doesn't feel nice or right coming out of your throat/mouth you're probably not singing very well.
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Old 01.09.2008, 05:59 PM   #30
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get someone to tickle yr ass with a feather for the high notes.
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Old 01.09.2008, 06:03 PM   #31
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Old 01.09.2008, 07:03 PM   #32
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I think he's more asking how to construct vocal melodies, vocal approach etc.

In that case I'd say it comes in time. Maybe you have to have a bit of a pop sensibility, I'm not sure.
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Old 01.09.2008, 07:26 PM   #33
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write a guitar melody then try harmonizing around that to find a new melody to which to sing, then lose the guitar melody
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Old 01.09.2008, 07:44 PM   #34
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In that case I'd say it comes in time. Maybe you have to have a bit of a pop sensibility, I'm not sure.

Pop sensibility is the key. Spot on.
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Old 01.09.2008, 11:14 PM   #35
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I wish I knew. Someday (after I take singing and acting lessons) I'll be on Broadway...
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Old 01.09.2008, 11:33 PM   #36
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Old 01.10.2008, 05:20 AM   #37
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Yeah, glice, I guess you're right, it's obvious "What sounds good to you" but I guess I was asking more for any tips people use instead of just randomly putting notes together vocally, which you also covered, so thanks.

And indeed, when I sing or speak, it sounds TOTALLY different to me (of course) after I record it and listen to it. The human voice is weird...

I sing a lot and I love to sing. I am ok but no Diamanda Galas for sure. Some tips:


- Practice your singing along disparate stuff, from crooning to whatever other style you fancy practising along to. This will get your voice aquainted to different vocal approaches that might not even be what you're aiming at, plus it will boost your confidence. Record everything that you sing along to and don't be put off if you listen back to it and think that you sound like shite. The point is to find out what your vocal range is capable of and feels comfortable with, so it becomes all good experience.



- Stretch your vocal cords before you actually sing. This exercise helps relaxing you both physically and mentally and it also makes you less prone to just mess around with your singing. Focusing on what you are singing is just as important, whatever the style.


- Get a soul and off you go!
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I sound really great after about 3 beers. My guitar playing vastly improves too.
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