weezer - Pinkerton deluxe - Page 2

SonikJesus · 10.07.2010, 10:55 AM

http://www.punknews.org/article/39970

The Earl Of Slander · 10.08.2010, 06:05 AM

Apparently there's going to be a 4LP version of this too, ala the SY deluxe sets. I'm all over that shit.

hevusa · 10.08.2010, 08:46 AM

I've never understood remastered and "Deluxe" versions of crap. The original album is just fine and costs half the price (if not less). Reissues are just a money making scheme to make music nerds prove their love.

atsonicpark · 10.08.2010, 02:45 PM

^ To collect all the b-sides on one album, I guess.

noisereductions · 10.08.2010, 02:56 PM

I buy certain reissues... Sonic Youth obviously, Pavement, Beck, etc.. but really I always wish that instead of a reissue of the album they just release a standalone disc or set of all the b-sides from a period. Why tack a bunch of shit onto Dirty when they could just make a single standalone disc called PRETTY FUCKING DIRTY or something of all the Dirty bsides. That would be way cooler.

hevusa · 10.08.2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

^ To collect all the b-sides on one album, I guess.

And is it worth hearing all the shit that was cut out the first time around for a reason? Not usually.

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 10.08.2010, 04:35 PM

Sometimes b-side tracks are better than the ones that made the album. They're not always cut 'cause they suck, often it's just to give the album a better flow. I'm sure you know that though.

noisereductions · 10.08.2010, 04:57 PM

in the case of Weezer, the bsides from the first album are as good and maybe better than the album.

hevusa · 10.08.2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson

Sometimes b-side tracks are better than the ones that made the album. They're not always cut 'cause they suck, often it's just to give the album a better flow. I'm sure you know that though.

I have never found this to be true. What sometimes are we talking about here?

The Earl Of Slander · 10.08.2010, 08:04 PM

Well, considering we're on the SY board, Genetic and Lee 2, from the Dirty and Goo reissues respectively, are both as good as anything on those albums. Another great example is Radiohead, who have a BUNCH of their best songs as b-sides, such as Trans-Atlantic Drawl or Polyethalene. The Breeders and The Beatles are also great examples. I've often said that you can kind of judge a band's overall awesomeness by the quality of their B-sides, because these were the songs they could afford to throw away. If they still rock, it bodes very well for the band's creativity.

hevusa · 10.08.2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Earl Of Slander

Well, considering we're on the SY board, Genetic and Lee 2, from the Dirty and Goo reissues respectively, are both as good as anything on those albums. Another great example is Radiohead, who have a BUNCH of their best songs as b-sides, such as Trans-Atlantic Drawl or Polyethalene. The Breeders and The Beatles are also great examples. I've often said that you can kind of judge a band's overall awesomeness by the quality of their B-sides, because these were the songs they could afford to throw away. If they still rock, it bodes very well for the band's creativity.

I do enjoy Radiohead's b-sides but they are probably the exception.

atsonicpark · 10.08.2010, 09:07 PM

Pinkerton's b-sides are a thousand times better than Pinkerton itself...

Gonna have to agree with Transatlantic Drawl, def. my fav. Radiohead song.

the ikara cult · 10.08.2010, 10:18 PM

i dont know what were supposed to do with Pinkerton, why doesnt someone come up with an answer to this problem?

Indie band Weezer are offered $10m to split up

Online petition launched to raise money to get the US rockers to quit

By Jonathan Harwood
LAST UPDATED 3:15 PM, OCTOBER 7, 2010 Share

The American indie band Weezer is being offered $10m to split up by a disgruntled listener, who has launched an online petition to raise the money. James Burns is asking everyone who signs to cough up at least $12 to help pay off the band, fronted by Rivers Cuomo.
Burns says he was motivated to start the campaign out of concern for the wellbeing of fans who have been disappointed by the band's new material.
"If we reach at least $10m then we get a chance to possibly stop hearing about a shitty new Weezer album every goddamn year,” writes Burns at petition website The Point .
"Every year, Rivers Cuomo swears that he's changed, and that their new album is the best thing that he's done since Pinkerton, and what happens? Another pile of crap like Beverly Hills or I'm Your Daddy.
"This is an abusive relationship, and it needs to stop now. I am tired of my friends being disappointed year after year. I am tired of endless whimsical cutesy album covers and music videos. I'm sick of hearing about whatever this terrible... excuse for a band is up to these days."
Burns's chances of success appear slim, however. Two days after launching the campaign only 16 people had made a donation and Burns was still $9,999,685 short of his target.
The band is aware of the campaign. Weezer's drummer Patrick Wilson used Twitter to try to raise the stakes. "If they can make it $20m, we'll do the 'deluxe breakup'," he announced.
Weezer was formed in the early 1990s and enjoyed success with the songs Undone - The Sweater Song and Buddy Holly. The videos for both songs were directed by Spike Jonze and became popular on MTV. The clip for Buddy Holly was filmed and edited to look as though it was part of the TV show Happy Days.
The band's first album, one of three released with the title Weezer, established their reputation, but the follow-up, Pinkerton, was voted one of the worst albums of 1996 by Rolling Stone magazine. However, it attained cult status and sold almost 1 million copies

Read more: http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/69781,...#ixzz11pOwvtqL

DeadDiscoDildo · 10.14.2010, 12:26 PM

Speakin of weezer.

Miss Sweeney is an awesome song I found on youtube from the red album.

Sounds kind of like pinkerton but alittle fresher.

Nothing amazing, but it strikes a chord with me for some reason.

I like how he sings the verses too.

I havent bought an album of theirs since maladroit but check out a song or two from each album. He finally has one good song.

noisereductions · 10.14.2010, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions

I buy certain reissues... Sonic Youth obviously, Pavement, Beck, etc.. but really I always wish that instead of a reissue of the album they just release a standalone disc or set of all the b-sides from a period. Why tack a bunch of shit onto Dirty when they could just make a single standalone disc called PRETTY FUCKING DIRTY or something of all the Dirty bsides. That would be way cooler.

BTW, oddly Weezer apparently did exactly what I'm talking about. They released the Blue Album deluxe bonus disc on its own! As its own album!

finding nobody · 10.14.2010, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions

BTW, oddly Weezer apparently did exactly what I'm talking about. They released the Blue Album deluxe bonus disc on its own! As its own album!

Jesus.. That is retarded. The disc was cool and everything.. but jeez
L00kin f0rward 2 dee reissue th0.

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The Earl Of Slander the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,156	Apparently there's going to be a 4LP version of this too, ala the SY deluxe sets. I'm all over that shit. __________________ The toothaches got worse, she dreamed of disembodied voices from whose malignance there was no appeal, the soft dusk of mirrors out of which something was about to walk, and empty rooms that waited for her. Your gynaecologist has no test for what she was pregnant with.
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10.08.2010, 08:46 AM	#23
hevusa expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: rain hell Posts: 1,535	I've never understood remastered and "Deluxe" versions of crap. The original album is just fine and costs half the price (if not less). Reissues are just a money making scheme to make music nerds prove their love.
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10.08.2010, 02:45 PM	#24
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	^ To collect all the b-sides on one album, I guess. __________________
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10.08.2010, 02:56 PM	#25
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	I buy certain reissues... Sonic Youth obviously, Pavement, Beck, etc.. but really I always wish that instead of a reissue of the album they just release a standalone disc or set of all the b-sides from a period. Why tack a bunch of shit onto Dirty when they could just make a single standalone disc called PRETTY FUCKING DIRTY or something of all the Dirty bsides. That would be way cooler. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,571	Sometimes b-side tracks are better than the ones that made the album. They're not always cut 'cause they suck, often it's just to give the album a better flow. I'm sure you know that though.
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10.08.2010, 04:57 PM	#28
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	in the case of Weezer, the bsides from the first album are as good and maybe better than the album. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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10.08.2010, 08:04 PM	#30
The Earl Of Slander the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,156	Well, considering we're on the SY board, Genetic and Lee 2, from the Dirty and Goo reissues respectively, are both as good as anything on those albums. Another great example is Radiohead, who have a BUNCH of their best songs as b-sides, such as Trans-Atlantic Drawl or Polyethalene. The Breeders and The Beatles are also great examples. I've often said that you can kind of judge a band's overall awesomeness by the quality of their B-sides, because these were the songs they could afford to throw away. If they still rock, it bodes very well for the band's creativity. __________________ The toothaches got worse, she dreamed of disembodied voices from whose malignance there was no appeal, the soft dusk of mirrors out of which something was about to walk, and empty rooms that waited for her. Your gynaecologist has no test for what she was pregnant with.
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10.08.2010, 09:07 PM	#32
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Pinkerton's b-sides are a thousand times better than Pinkerton itself... Gonna have to agree with Transatlantic Drawl, def. my fav. Radiohead song. __________________
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10.08.2010, 10:18 PM	#33
the ikara cult invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London sink Posts: 4,576	i dont know what were supposed to do with Pinkerton, why doesnt someone come up with an answer to this problem? Indie band Weezer are offered $10m to split up Online petition launched to raise money to get the US rockers to quit By Jonathan Harwood LAST UPDATED 3:15 PM, OCTOBER 7, 2010 Share The American indie band Weezer is being offered $10m to split up by a disgruntled listener, who has launched an online petition to raise the money. James Burns is asking everyone who signs to cough up at least $12 to help pay off the band, fronted by Rivers Cuomo. Burns says he was motivated to start the campaign out of concern for the wellbeing of fans who have been disappointed by the band's new material. "If we reach at least $10m then we get a chance to possibly stop hearing about a shitty new Weezer album every goddamn year,” writes Burns at petition website The Point . "Every year, Rivers Cuomo swears that he's changed, and that their new album is the best thing that he's done since Pinkerton, and what happens? Another pile of crap like Beverly Hills or I'm Your Daddy. "This is an abusive relationship, and it needs to stop now. I am tired of my friends being disappointed year after year. I am tired of endless whimsical cutesy album covers and music videos. I'm sick of hearing about whatever this terrible... excuse for a band is up to these days." Burns's chances of success appear slim, however. Two days after launching the campaign only 16 people had made a donation and Burns was still $9,999,685 short of his target. The band is aware of the campaign. Weezer's drummer Patrick Wilson used Twitter to try to raise the stakes. "If they can make it $20m, we'll do the 'deluxe breakup'," he announced. Weezer was formed in the early 1990s and enjoyed success with the songs Undone - The Sweater Song and Buddy Holly. The videos for both songs were directed by Spike Jonze and became popular on MTV. The clip for Buddy Holly was filmed and edited to look as though it was part of the TV show Happy Days. The band's first album, one of three released with the title Weezer, established their reputation, but the follow-up, Pinkerton, was voted one of the worst albums of 1996 by Rolling Stone magazine. However, it attained cult status and sold almost 1 million copies Read more: http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/69781,...#ixzz11pOwvtqL __________________ "It is absolutely ridiculous, they are behaving like a cult" - The Vatican
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10.14.2010, 12:26 PM	#34
DeadDiscoDildo invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,805	Speakin of weezer. Miss Sweeney is an awesome song I found on youtube from the red album. Sounds kind of like pinkerton but alittle fresher. Nothing amazing, but it strikes a chord with me for some reason. I like how he sings the verses too. I havent bought an album of theirs since maladroit but check out a song or two from each album. He finally has one good song.
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