Pitchfork's Top 50 Albums of 2007 - Page 2

atsonicpark · 12.18.2007, 06:51 PM

Nah, sorry, pitchfork don't know shit about music, maybe a few of their CONTRIBUTORS will write about good bands like Gaji or Limited Express (Has Gone?), but collectively.. I mean, this is a site that gave Source Tags and Codes a 10 and NYC Ghosts and Flowers a 0... that alone proves something to me.

val-holla-ing · 12.18.2007, 07:28 PM

you know, i'm not a huge fan of nycg&f, but i gotta agree with atsonicpark. those cats know jack about music.

auto-aim · 12.18.2007, 08:42 PM

you all talk as if music is objective. the whole entertainment of lists is the ourage because, as of my afformentioned fact proves, you'll never agree with it. I don't really buy much recent music and have no real interest in keeping up with the times because nobody knows what is shit or good, it's rare that I really love something and history is a better litmus test normally. It just makes people think they're cool... There will be another list next year - but hey! At least it wasnt nearly as corney looking as the rolling stones list.

batreleaser · 12.18.2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

wow, almost every one of those albums is terrible.

shock of the year: pitchfork are predictable dicksucking idiots who know NOTHING about music.

As for person pitch vs. strawberry jam, pullhair rubeye is about 500 times better than either of those. But for the record, person pitch is pretty cool, not my favorite panda bear release and not something I'll probably ever listen to again but whatever. Strawberry Jam is WAY fucking overproduced and ranges on unlistenable at times, but it's got some jams on it, specifically the second half of the album (the first 2 or 3 songs on it are just godawful though).

totally agree, i like 3 out of the top 10 records, and only one of the wud be near the top 10 (animal collective)

atsonicpark · 12.18.2007, 11:01 PM

Of course making lists is ridiculous and no one will ever totally agree with them -- but Pitchfork made a completely safe, predictable list that everyone saw coming from a while away.

Pitchfork is some kind of "voice" in indie rock, for whatever reason, and they have lots of power and say over what sells -- how daring would it have been for them to talk about Experimental Dental School or Cerberus Shoal or (((microwaves))) or Mong Hang or something sometimes? You know, REAL music that is good and unique -- not the dicksucking sub-mainstream bullshit they constantly cover. I've noticed that almost every really good album pitchfork reviews gets somewhere in the 7 range... you know, the bands that don't pay Pitchfork for ad space. You ever notice how the bands who do pay (Les Savy Fav and Bloc Party for lack of better examples currently) for ads on their site get the best scores?

I love lists, I completely agreed with many picks from Rock N Rolla magazine, for example, and I agreed with many of Pauly's picks. But pitchfork's list is fucking AWFUL.

gmku · 12.18.2007, 11:05 PM

Doesn't mean much to me.

davenotdead · 12.18.2007, 11:46 PM

they have 'power' because they update their site constantly and get news instantly...so they have traffic... and they got me into AC... i still hardly read them, i just do it mostly to see where they put people on these lists, and if it affects the musicians' popularity in any way... markets are fascinating to me. also, I agree with their #1. last year was the Knife [which sucked], but this year they got it right.

Cantankerous · 12.18.2007, 11:54 PM

you people praise pitchfork as if it were a deity
fuck that.

Everyneurotic · 12.18.2007, 11:54 PM

yeah, what a shock, their choices. hipster bullshit.

and val: vision swim, i liked it better when it was called phaedra.

probably it's just me but strawberry jam is like 3 amazing songs with a ton of filler.

davenotdead · 12.18.2007, 11:59 PM

what are the 3 amazing songs?

ill agree in that its less of a cohesive album than Feels, but the high points might make up for that.

atsonicpark · 12.19.2007, 12:08 AM

No, it's not just you. The first half of strawberry jam sucks.

gmku · 12.19.2007, 12:09 AM

I think Battles is an excellent choice, though.

Everyneurotic · 12.19.2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead

what are the 3 amazing songs?

ill agree in that its less of a cohesive album than Feels, but the high points might make up for that.

peacebone, for reverend green and cuckoo cuckoo.

and that point you make, well, it's just that there were records that have more than three songs as high points with almost no filler, so that kinda pushes it down.

davenotdead · 12.19.2007, 12:20 AM

yeah i agree...except that there's at least 5 high points on SJ...actually 6... actually i like all the songs...though i could see if some people didnt like #1, or UM, or WW.... Chores, Fireworks, and Derek are my 3 fave tracks though.

Torn Curtain · 12.19.2007, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

you people praise pitchfork as if it were a deity
fuck that.

You're right, but compared to French music magazines like Rock'n'folk and Les inrockuptibles I think pitchfork is finally not that bad

the ikara cult · 12.19.2007, 07:07 AM

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Think the Brothers Grimm battling it out with Maggot Brain while Willie Hutch coos in the background and you're beginning to get the picture

Its phrases like this that wind me up about this website, but it is good for news.

12.19.2007, 07:28 AM

What I'll never understand is why some of you folks make such a big fuss about what pitchfork write.

the ikara cult · 12.19.2007, 07:59 AM

to be fair to my good self i havent read any of their reviews in full for a while, but i dipped into the list and started reading their entry for the new Wu Tang Clan album and that little phrase turned up, which is why i dont bother. its not what they like, its just how they write.

Onani Nic · 12.19.2007, 07:59 AM

Pretty impressed that "King Khan and His Shrines- What Is?!" made it to #33.

I don't have too strong an opinion on Pitchfork either way. It's just a music website...

tesla69 · 12.19.2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Pitchfork made a completely safe, predictable list that everyone saw coming from a while away.
how daring would it have been for them to talk about...REAL music that is good and unique -- not the dicksucking sub-mainstream bullshit they constantly cover. .

Stated perfectly...you have to wonder, do they just have weak taste in music or is it a conscious decisison to be mediocre?

I bet they eat a lot of hot pockets.

12.18.2007, 06:51 PM	#21
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Nah, sorry, pitchfork don't know shit about music, maybe a few of their CONTRIBUTORS will write about good bands like Gaji or Limited Express (Has Gone?), but collectively.. I mean, this is a site that gave Source Tags and Codes a 10 and NYC Ghosts and Flowers a 0... that alone proves something to me. __________________
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val-holla-ing invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: baton rouge. the 225, big raggedy. Posts: 2,731	you know, i'm not a huge fan of nycg&f, but i gotta agree with atsonicpark. those cats know jack about music. __________________ please do not misconstrue the previous statement as an invitation for same sex relations or as negative towards anyone of another sexuality. -cam'ron (formerly "no homo")
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12.18.2007, 08:42 PM	#23
auto-aim the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wales Posts: 650	you all talk as if music is objective. the whole entertainment of lists is the ourage because, as of my afformentioned fact proves, you'll never agree with it. I don't really buy much recent music and have no real interest in keeping up with the times because nobody knows what is shit or good, it's rare that I really love something and history is a better litmus test normally. It just makes people think they're cool... There will be another list next year - but hey! At least it wasnt nearly as corney looking as the rolling stones list. __________________ His Naked Torso
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12.18.2007, 11:01 PM	#25
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Of course making lists is ridiculous and no one will ever totally agree with them -- but Pitchfork made a completely safe, predictable list that everyone saw coming from a while away. Pitchfork is some kind of "voice" in indie rock, for whatever reason, and they have lots of power and say over what sells -- how daring would it have been for them to talk about Experimental Dental School or Cerberus Shoal or (((microwaves))) or Mong Hang or something sometimes? You know, REAL music that is good and unique -- not the dicksucking sub-mainstream bullshit they constantly cover. I've noticed that almost every really good album pitchfork reviews gets somewhere in the 7 range... you know, the bands that don't pay Pitchfork for ad space. You ever notice how the bands who do pay (Les Savy Fav and Bloc Party for lack of better examples currently) for ads on their site get the best scores? I love lists, I completely agreed with many picks from Rock N Rolla magazine, for example, and I agreed with many of Pauly's picks. But pitchfork's list is fucking AWFUL. __________________
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12.18.2007, 11:05 PM	#26
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	Doesn't mean much to me. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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12.18.2007, 11:46 PM	#27
davenotdead invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,784	they have 'power' because they update their site constantly and get news instantly...so they have traffic... and they got me into AC... i still hardly read them, i just do it mostly to see where they put people on these lists, and if it affects the musicians' popularity in any way... markets are fascinating to me. also, I agree with their #1. last year was the Knife [which sucked], but this year they got it right. __________________
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12.18.2007, 11:54 PM	#28
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	you people praise pitchfork as if it were a deity fuck that.
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Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	yeah, what a shock, their choices. hipster bullshit. and val: vision swim, i liked it better when it was called phaedra. probably it's just me but strawberry jam is like 3 amazing songs with a ton of filler. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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12.18.2007, 11:59 PM	#30
davenotdead invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,784	what are the 3 amazing songs? ill agree in that its less of a cohesive album than Feels, but the high points might make up for that. __________________
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12.19.2007, 12:08 AM	#31
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	No, it's not just you. The first half of strawberry jam sucks. __________________
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12.19.2007, 12:09 AM	#32
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	I think Battles is an excellent choice, though. __________________ Ever notice how this place just basically, well, sucks.
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12.19.2007, 12:20 AM	#34
davenotdead invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,784	yeah i agree...except that there's at least 5 high points on SJ...actually 6... actually i like all the songs...though i could see if some people didnt like #1, or UM, or WW.... Chores, Fireworks, and Derek are my 3 fave tracks though. __________________
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12.19.2007, 07:28 AM	#37
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	What I'll never understand is why some of you folks make such a big fuss about what pitchfork write.
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12.19.2007, 07:59 AM	#38
the ikara cult invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London sink Posts: 4,576	to be fair to my good self i havent read any of their reviews in full for a while, but i dipped into the list and started reading their entry for the new Wu Tang Clan album and that little phrase turned up, which is why i dont bother. its not what they like, its just how they write. __________________ "It is absolutely ridiculous, they are behaving like a cult" - The Vatican
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12.19.2007, 07:59 AM	#39
Onani Nic the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 930	Pretty impressed that "King Khan and His Shrines- What Is?!" made it to #33. I don't have too strong an opinion on Pitchfork either way. It's just a music website... __________________ I don't give a fuck thats the problem. I see a motherfuckin cop i don't dodge them.
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