[Lurker]

You're all invited to my 1000 post party!

[Rob Instigator]

almost 3 millioon americans incarecerated.
most on non violent drug offenses.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

almost 3 millioon americans incarecerated.
most on non violent drug offenses.

12 percent of those non-violent drug offenses are cannabis related. prison culture is insane. we have created three generations of Americans who use prison as right of passage, myself included in this process.

[atsonicpark]

Kerry/Edwards 2004!

[gmku]

When a president gets loudly booed as he throws in the first pitch of the MLB game opener, isn't that a sign?

Anybody else catch that?

[krastian]

Sure did.

[gmku]

By the way...
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rob Instigator again.

Bush makes me angry and sad.

[gmku]

Did any of the news shows cover this?

[krastian]

Well, there was no mention of it on ESPN....they prob. decided to just stay out of it.

[gmku]

The news shows are mouthpieces of the gov't, so I'm not surprised it was ignored. It was so goddamned obvious, though.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by gmku

The news shows are mouthpieces of the gov't, so I'm not surprised it was ignored. It was so goddamned obvious, though.

are you married to agent scully, you lucky dog?

 

[Rob Instigator]

people, the news are not the mouthpieces of the government. The government as it currently stands, and our news media, are both mouthpieces of BIG BUISNESS, meaning, they are the mouthpieces for about 1,000 rich ass billionaires that have taken control of our Republic for their own ends, and their own ends are nothing more or less sinister than MONEY. flat out

Money people, and the power that comes with money.

OUr government, meaning US, bend over backwards to let big business fuck us with harsh spiky implements,a nd we beg for more, as long as we can afford cheap ass disposable inherently flawed asian goods, which make them ridiculous profits.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

people, the news are not the mouthpieces of the government. The government as it currently stands, and our news media, are both mouthpieces of BIG BUISNESS, meaning, they are the mouthpieces for about 1,000 rich ass billionaires that have taken control of our Republic for their own ends, and their own ends are nothing more or less sinister than MONEY. flat out

Money people, and the power that comes with money.

OUr government, meaning US, bend over backwards to let big business fuck us with harsh spiky implements,a nd we beg for more, as long as we can afford cheap ass disposable inherently flawed asian goods, which make them ridiculous profits.

that's more correct.

for example, GE, which owns NBC, is the 3rd largest U.S. military contractor. so how anti-war you think they're gonna get?

[Rob Instigator]

and how much anti-war commentary, or even just true real war commmentary, are they going to alloow NBC, MSNBC, Headline News, C Span and all the other networks owned by GE to do?

[Rob Instigator]

Everytime public radio or PBS starts in with heavy hard hitting shit about how fucked up our government is the same government decides to cut their funding. fun huh? and not only that but it makes PBS and the corporation for public broadcasting depend on donations and funding from giant industrial complex assholes like ADM and MOnsanto

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Everytime public radio or PBS starts in with heavy hard hitting shit about how fucked up our government is the same government decides to cut their funding. fun huh? and not only that but it makes PBS and the corporation for public broadcasting depend on donations and funding from giant industrial complex assholes like ADM and MOnsanto

PBS always sought this funding, from the beginning PBS has been a private non-profit, not a govt service. it receives less then 10% of its funding from federal government sources...

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Everytime public radio or PBS starts in with heavy hard hitting shit about how fucked up our government is the same government decides to cut their funding. fun huh? and not only that but it makes PBS and the corporation for public broadcasting depend on donations and funding from giant industrial complex assholes like ADM and MOnsanto

yes. i think this can be reversed however. with the right congress and the right legislation you could make all news media independently owned. sure they'd have to respond to their stockholders, but they would not be under direct control of any other company. then again, in the 18th and 19th centuries newspapers used to be ran by political parties which unabashedly presented their points of view. "Objectivity in news" is a XX century development (unfortunately short-lived).

The alternative, which is *gulp* nationalization, is wrong and wrong and wrong-- governments are even worse than big business at spewing propaganda & general balls. would you watch 5-hour speeches by dubya every sunday on all available channels? the horror...

[gmku]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

are you married to agent scully, you lucky dog?

 

The truth is out there. You'll have to trust me on this.

[gmku]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

that's more correct.

for example, GE, which owns NBC, is the 3rd largest U.S. military contractor. so how anti-war you think they're gonna get?

Basically Big Business supports the Bush administration, and vice versa, so because Big Business runs the news media, isn't this the same as saying the media are the mouthpieces of the gov't? (Answer: Yes.)

[the ikara cult]

Communists and Fascists
Socialists and Capitalists
People who think Washing Machine is good, and people who think Washine Machine is crap

All of these extremes are brought together by mutual hatred towards George Bush. I know its not a controversial point, but neither is the fact we breathe oxygen.