SYG Book Club 1st Meeting - Page 2

noumenal · 05.31.2006, 06:27 PM

I don't see you. Maybe you opened your own room?

!@#$%! · 05.31.2006, 06:28 PM

i think you logged into a server but you have yet to join a room

i am letting my connection rest-- fucking lost power or something-- 0%

acousticrock87 · 05.31.2006, 06:28 PM

Summary for those not in the room:

Strippers
Star Wars
Flys and Sugar = Hilarious
Billiard-dancing billboard
Exclusively Russian, or universal message?
Russia is a shithole
Probably a universal message to some extent
Upper-class looked down upon
Flys and Sugar = Hilarious Pt. 2
Dante

!@#$%! · 05.31.2006, 06:31 PM

oh yeah and also that bitch lukacs :P

and acousticrock posted a brilliant quote from the divine comedy

and noumenal thinks of transpositions

and 56 (w/ the russian name) cleverly observed that the stout/slim description repeats itself in the digression during the ball-- and that russia has always been a shithole

--
and glice read the chapter in like 5 minutes.

finding nobody · 05.31.2006, 06:50 PM

shit! i wanna be in there so bad. but it says this

[INFO]Connecting to irc://irc.dal.net/ (irc://irc.dal.net/), attempt 2, next attempt in 30 seconds...
[ERROR]Connection to irc://irc.dal.net/ (irc://irc.dal.net/) timed out.

!@#$%! · 05.31.2006, 06:52 PM

yeah it takes a bit sometimes to connect

tomorrow maybe it will work better-- i think we were done for the day & anyway you can't read what was written before you appeared

noumenal · 05.31.2006, 06:55 PM

nomadicfollower should be able to help you

!@#$%! · 05.31.2006, 06:57 PM

well today was fun. gotta go home & get dinner & all that stuff. you guys have a great night. tomorrow again, or what?

nomadicfollower · 05.31.2006, 06:57 PM

Finding Nobody, go to http://www.mirc.com/get.html and download it - I used the Illonois version, since it was first. Then connect to the DALnet server and type in #SYGBookClub when you get asked what room you want to join.
Sorry if that's unclear, post if you need any help.

noumenal · 05.31.2006, 07:04 PM

I work tomorrow and Friday night. I will not be around. I am flying to the ATL on Saturday. Not returning until the 11th. A meeting on the 11th is planned. 3PM. 1st 6 chaps, chaps

finding nobody · 05.31.2006, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadicfollower

Finding Nobody, go to http://www.mirc.com/get.html and download it - I used the Illonois version, since it was first. Then connect to the DALnet server and type in #SYGBookClub when you get asked what room you want to join.
Sorry if that's unclear, post if you need any help.

i got it workin now. thanks alot dude

nomadicfollower · 05.31.2006, 07:19 PM

No problem.

finding nobody · 05.31.2006, 07:20 PM

am i all alone in the room?

Glice · 05.31.2006, 07:22 PM

I just left. I'm going to bed. It's +0 GMT here...

truncated · 05.31.2006, 09:03 PM

I searched high and low, and in the interest of expediency, I bought the only edition I found, which was the B&N. Is it even worth reading, or should I order the Guerney translation?

acousticrock87 · 05.31.2006, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated

I searched high and low, and in the interest of expediency, I bought the only edition I found, which was the B&N. Is it even worth reading, or should I order the Guerney translation?

I've read a few B&N editions of other books, and they're generally really good, even ones that I've heard of as being bad. Might not be the greatest translation but it'll be fine. I'm reading a different version that no one else is. It's not hugely important.

noumenal · 05.31.2006, 09:15 PM

People are reading several different versions it turns out.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 05.31.2006, 11:12 PM

A positive experience so far.

Chapter by chapter, this book is getting better.

Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski · 06.01.2006, 11:37 AM

Could I propose something...

I think this would be better as a thread than a chat; wouldn't the opportunity to openly write a response rather than choppy blurts be better?

I also feel the fact that some of us cannot get to a computer at that time limits the accessibility to everyone.

I took a long time to read the first two chapters and even read some literary criticism about it. There's a totally necessary concept (seemingly... not really sure) that deals with the use of everything, nothing, something, and their respective colors in the novel. Everything is white, nothing is black, something is yellow and dull blue. And gray is neither something nor nothing or a combination of both. Look at how much those words appear. The minimal descriptions really seem reliant on the fact that he is describing "everything" which really takes a minimal description. It was fascinating to read what this guy said about it, and it made me antsy to go deeper.

I'd love to discuss, could we do it in this thread?

And I don't want to ruffle what seems like a good thing; I wouldn't be offended if it didn't change at all.

acousticrock87 · 06.01.2006, 11:49 AM

I think that sounds like a good idea. It would also be a way to get much more coherent and established thoughts, seeing as there is no rush in saying them and plenty of room to go back and edit. To still have the chat, but also a fully active thread discussion.

I also noticed a lot of emphasis on "nothing". He takes a lot of effort to describe things as unremarkable, boring, gray, and completely average (Manilov, especially). It will go nearly a page or more without really saying anything especially noteworthy, but saying a lot at the same time.

Who's criticism did you read?

05.31.2006, 06:27 PM	#21
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	I don't see you. Maybe you opened your own room?
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05.31.2006, 06:28 PM	#22
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,578	i think you logged into a server but you have yet to join a room i am letting my connection rest-- fucking lost power or something-- 0%
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05.31.2006, 06:28 PM	#23
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	Summary for those not in the room: Strippers Star Wars Flys and Sugar = Hilarious Billiard-dancing billboard Exclusively Russian, or universal message? Russia is a shithole Probably a universal message to some extent Upper-class looked down upon Flys and Sugar = Hilarious Pt. 2 Dante
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05.31.2006, 06:31 PM	#24
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,578	oh yeah and also that bitch lukacs :P and acousticrock posted a brilliant quote from the divine comedy and noumenal thinks of transpositions and 56 (w/ the russian name) cleverly observed that the stout/slim description repeats itself in the digression during the ball-- and that russia has always been a shithole -- and glice read the chapter in like 5 minutes.
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05.31.2006, 06:50 PM	#25
finding nobody invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,275	shit! i wanna be in there so bad. but it says this [INFO]Connecting to irc://irc.dal.net/ (irc://irc.dal.net/), attempt 2, next attempt in 30 seconds... [ERROR]Connection to irc://irc.dal.net/ (irc://irc.dal.net/) timed out.
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05.31.2006, 06:52 PM	#26
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,578	yeah it takes a bit sometimes to connect tomorrow maybe it will work better-- i think we were done for the day & anyway you can't read what was written before you appeared
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05.31.2006, 06:55 PM	#27
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	nomadicfollower should be able to help you
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05.31.2006, 06:57 PM	#28
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,578	well today was fun. gotta go home & get dinner & all that stuff. you guys have a great night. tomorrow again, or what?
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05.31.2006, 06:57 PM	#29
nomadicfollower invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North America Posts: 2,672	Finding Nobody, go to http://www.mirc.com/get.html and download it - I used the Illonois version, since it was first. Then connect to the DALnet server and type in #SYGBookClub when you get asked what room you want to join. Sorry if that's unclear, post if you need any help.
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05.31.2006, 07:04 PM	#30
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	I work tomorrow and Friday night. I will not be around. I am flying to the ATL on Saturday. Not returning until the 11th. A meeting on the 11th is planned. 3PM. 1st 6 chaps, chaps
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05.31.2006, 07:19 PM	#32
nomadicfollower invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North America Posts: 2,672	No problem.
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05.31.2006, 07:20 PM	#33
finding nobody invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,275	am i all alone in the room?
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05.31.2006, 09:03 PM	#35
truncated invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,607	I searched high and low, and in the interest of expediency, I bought the only edition I found, which was the B&N. Is it even worth reading, or should I order the Guerney translation?
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05.31.2006, 09:15 PM	#37
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	People are reading several different versions it turns out.
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05.31.2006, 11:12 PM	#38
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	A positive experience so far. Chapter by chapter, this book is getting better.
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06.01.2006, 11:37 AM	#39
Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Japan Posts: 345	Could I propose something... I think this would be better as a thread than a chat; wouldn't the opportunity to openly write a response rather than choppy blurts be better? I also feel the fact that some of us cannot get to a computer at that time limits the accessibility to everyone. I took a long time to read the first two chapters and even read some literary criticism about it. There's a totally necessary concept (seemingly... not really sure) that deals with the use of everything, nothing, something, and their respective colors in the novel. Everything is white, nothing is black, something is yellow and dull blue. And gray is neither something nor nothing or a combination of both. Look at how much those words appear. The minimal descriptions really seem reliant on the fact that he is describing "everything" which really takes a minimal description. It was fascinating to read what this guy said about it, and it made me antsy to go deeper. I'd love to discuss, could we do it in this thread? And I don't want to ruffle what seems like a good thing; I wouldn't be offended if it didn't change at all.
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06.01.2006, 11:49 AM	#40
acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	I think that sounds like a good idea. It would also be a way to get much more coherent and established thoughts, seeing as there is no rush in saying them and plenty of room to go back and edit. To still have the chat, but also a fully active thread discussion. I also noticed a lot of emphasis on "nothing". He takes a lot of effort to describe things as unremarkable, boring, gray, and completely average (Manilov, especially). It will go nearly a page or more without really saying anything especially noteworthy, but saying a lot at the same time. Who's criticism did you read?
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