[terminal pharmacy]

Originally Posted by Glice

Beyonce's miming was captured, and vaunted as her 'real' singing. You still have to get close to the note for an autotuner to sound right, otherwise you sound like this. The notion of the 'real' singer is all well and good, but PAs are much louder than they were in, say, Edith Piaf's days.

I'm not necessarily defending Beyoncé's talent, I'm saying that taking one recorded instance of her singing without the context and claiming she relies on an autotuner just means you don't know what an autotuner does. By which I mean - it searches for the nearest consonant note in a preset scale - if you're more than a note out (as this audio is) the sound that comes out would be wrong.

I'd suggest that the fact that Beyoncé's singing lower, as she is in the Stern clip, is more of an attempt to hear herself over whatever other sound is happening (because you can feel lower notes in your body better than you can high notes).

Glicey, I never mentioned autotuning. I was saying that she was just singing along with her backing track. As for PA's being louder, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything as monitors speakers are also louder. Also the PA's in use most of the time these days particularly for big shows etc are of the line array variety. These are quieter behind the boxes than your traditional old school box stacks and flown boxes. In fact you can have a conversation standing behind a line array at 100 dBA without having to raise your voice too much. And if you ever get the chance to stand in front of a nexo PS15 monitor wedge get the engineer to crank it up for but make sure you have some reinforcement between your neck and shoulders 'cos these mofo's will tear your head off.

I do know what you are saying though as Autotuners are next to useless live. I know Radiohead have used them live in the past but as an effect. I can't remember what track it is but Thom Yorke sings and they use the auto tuner to drag his voice out of tune.

[terminal pharmacy]

Originally Posted by Glice

Well. It just seems to me to be entirely ridiculous to criticise one hyper-produced thing as 'fake' when the overwhelming majority of records are over-produced. ESPECIALLY when it's patently obvious to anyone who's seen SY live that none of them can hold a note for shit (ESPECIALLY Kim).

SY is a completely different aesthetic.

[Rob Instigator]

no one is talking about records Glice. we is talking abou live performances from people whose asses are constantly sucked proclaiming them to the great VOICES

[SYRFox]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

no one is talking about records Glice. we is talking abou live performances from people whose asses are constantly sucked proclaiming them to the great VOICES

yeah but you know, you realize the world is fucked about singing when you can read the following as a commentary to this video:

"
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Woow .
I Love Crystal Castles .
But, are their voices really like that?
... hm, am i asking a dumb question?
maybe so .
but, I just don't know .
hah hah .
=)
ps: this is my ringtone!
"

(btw i think crystal castles are rubbish crap)

[Toilet & Bowels]

who cares? single ladies is still an awesome song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1nixzYHDus

[terminal pharmacy]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

who cares? single ladies is still an awesome song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1nixzYHDus

i find that booty shaking in that clip quite the sickner... a bit like madonna sticking her 50 year old praying mantis vagina camel toe in every film clip.

[Rob Instigator]

that song is fucking horrible. I could kill people if exposed to that bullshit for too long.

[Rob Instigator]

I'd rather listen to fat guys from h-town singin bout syrup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsoMVxtKlGM

[Rob Instigator]

Beyonce's dad went on TMZ to say it's a hoax. he sez someone's perpin a fraud!

[StevOK]

Yeah, looks like it's fake. That Enrique Iglesias one says right in the info that it is fake.

[Rob Instigator]

the iglesias one is dead on REAL man. that fuck cannot sing. he sings to backing tracks.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

who cares? single ladies is still an awesome song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1nixzYHDus

the CIA has been trying to put drugs into music for ages, and they've finally succeeded with this crack-hybrid.

the "song" itself was created by scientists in a black-ops laboratory, deep below White Sands, New Mexico.

snippets of frequencies from around the world were chosen by the Echelon mainframe based upon their rating within It's stimulation_matrix.

these snippets were then woven together to create musical-mind-control.

but who cares about all of that? I'd lick the paint off of her.

[deflinus]

Originally Posted by StevOK

Yeah, looks like it's fake. That Enrique Iglesias one says right in the info that it is fake.

just because it's in the info, it's true?

i believe it is real. no doubt in my mind. it doesn't necessarily mean they're bad singers. it's just sad that people pay overpriced tickets to see some assclown NOT sing live

[ZEROpumpkins]

Autotune is the best friend of Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers and loads of other shitacular pop artists whose success is based solely off their looks.

[exploding plastic candle]

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

Autotune is the best friend of Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers and loads of other shitacular pop artists whose success is based solely off their looks.

Not to mention Lil Wayne. except he uses it to make his voice sound even worse

[StevOK]

Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12eKIQN1AU

[RanaldoNecro]

That T Pain vid is priceless

[atsonicpark]

we are eager imaginaires.

[wellcharge]

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

Autotune is the best friend of Miley Cyrus, Jonas Brothers and loads of other shitacular pop artists whose success is based solely off their looks.

^^^ jealous ass hater

[atsonicpark]

I just looked up the "Joined-Ass Brothers" that I keep hearing about. I'm somewhat gay, of course (as everyone is, if they're being honest), so I feel I can properly evaluate their physical attractiveness. And, guess what, these dudes are UGLY as FUCK. I can see the appeal of that Zac Effron guy (who I only know about because he's on Eggo boxes that I have to stock in the frozen foods department where I work at), he is somewhat cute, but these little fuckers look like ratty-ass dogs. Their hair looks like pubes. Can't see anything attractive about them whatsoever.