Chris Cornell Joins SY? - Page 2

greedrex · 04.23.2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Moshe

Sonic Youth could use an actual singer ...

huh, excuse me???

The Lung · 04.23.2009, 03:37 PM

Imagine chris cornell singing Kissability...

I heard soundgarden cover hendrix's hey baby and chris' vocals are priceless.

atsonicpark · 04.23.2009, 03:44 PM

Rob Instigator · 04.23.2009, 03:48 PM

this is my favorite thread of 2009

summer · 04.23.2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

it does NOT take balls to do commercial pap with played-out Timbaland.
all it takes is the desire to remain seemingly relevant and make money off of idiots.

See I don't get that, so pop sounding music can never be good? All music played on the radio is bad by default? Just, like, I don't understand that point of view at all

Rob Instigator · 04.23.2009, 04:18 PM

it can be good, and fun, and enjoyable, but it does not take BALLS to make a pop album.

tesla69 · 04.23.2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

it can be good, and fun, and enjoyable, but it does not take BALLS to make a pop album.

Hendrix was pop. The Stooges were a pop band. The Beatles were pop. The Stones were pop. Roxy Music was pop. Jefferson Airplane was the biggest pop band in the US in the 60's. The Who were a pop band. I think of the Fall as a pop band.

Rob Instigator · 04.23.2009, 04:38 PM

celine dion is POP

beyonce is POP

your definition of "pop" is too vague and all-encmpassing

we are talking genre of music here, not the catch-all term for any popular music. by your definition swing was pop, bebop was pop, country blues in the 20's were pop.

come on.

04.23.2009, 04:40 PM

In 2050 we will agree that it's all bit shite to be like this. Unless hatred sinks in and we all have to communicate through messages written with our own turds.

Rob Instigator · 04.23.2009, 04:50 PM

we will all speak in images. no words, no linguistic cohesion.

Rob Instigator · 04.23.2009, 04:52 PM

tesla, genre-wise, every band you mentioned is a ROCK band.
there is a difference, ask Kim Gordon.

pbradley · 04.23.2009, 04:53 PM

Sounds like a politician's answer. Cornell must really dislike Sonic Youth's music. Fine by me, I've never liked his singing.

04.23.2009, 04:55 PM

My main sonic youth problem these days is the fact they are shit singers and average songwriters, nevermind the skronk thing.

summer · 04.23.2009, 04:57 PM

I really do just consider pop anything that has nice tight songwriting though. Nirvana was a pop band. Sonic Youth used to be with Dirty. Just anything that's well-written. Sure it's maybe too all-encompassing but I like the philosophy behind it

pbradley · 04.23.2009, 05:02 PM

"Pop" can't tell you much of anything just as any other so-called genre label.

04.23.2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

My main sonic youth problem these days is the fact they are shit singers and average songwriters, nevermind the skronk thing.

What i mean is that they have become shit songwriters. They used to be the best.

bloodcrystallisetosand · 04.23.2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

What i mean is that they have become shit songwriters. They used to be the best.

yeah but to be fair there is only a limited amount of good songwriting your average mortal can manage in a lifetime: even the likes of dylan were diabolical for massive periods (like the 80s and first half of the 90s). and besides, i've always seen sy lyrics as just a section in the songs, and usually the least significant part: all that hylozic directions and suspect faux-beat stuff rarely hit the target, though the odd song like kissability had a point. i think that lee is the only one with proper 'songwriting' ability: the lee song is always the song i most look forward to on an album, right through to rats on RR.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.23.2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

What i mean is that they have become shit songwriters.

yeah, since thurston moore has come to dominate the band. their career is secured though, i guess the others feel like they can cruise on autopilot until they retire.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.23.2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69

Hendrix was pop. The Stooges were a pop band. The Beatles were pop. The Stones were pop. Roxy Music was pop. Jefferson Airplane was the biggest pop band in the US in the 60's. The Who were a pop band. I think of the Fall as a pop band.

some of those mention were pop in that they were popular, but stylisticly none of them are pop, and you know it.

summer · 04.23.2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

some of those mention were pop in that they were popular, but stylisticly none of them are pop, and you know it.

All of the bands he listed are stylistically "pop"

04.23.2009, 03:37 PM	#22
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04.23.2009, 04:38 PM	#28
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,976	celine dion is POP beyonce is POP your definition of "pop" is too vague and all-encmpassing we are talking genre of music here, not the catch-all term for any popular music. by your definition swing was pop, bebop was pop, country blues in the 20's were pop. come on. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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04.23.2009, 04:40 PM	#29
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	In 2050 we will agree that it's all bit shite to be like this. Unless hatred sinks in and we all have to communicate through messages written with our own turds.
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04.23.2009, 04:50 PM	#30
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,976	we will all speak in images. no words, no linguistic cohesion. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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04.23.2009, 04:52 PM	#31
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,976	tesla, genre-wise, every band you mentioned is a ROCK band. there is a difference, ask Kim Gordon. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	Sounds like a politician's answer. Cornell must really dislike Sonic Youth's music. Fine by me, I've never liked his singing.
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04.23.2009, 04:55 PM	#33
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	My main sonic youth problem these days is the fact they are shit singers and average songwriters, nevermind the skronk thing.
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04.23.2009, 04:57 PM	#34
summer stalker Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 540	I really do just consider pop anything that has nice tight songwriting though. Nirvana was a pop band. Sonic Youth used to be with Dirty. Just anything that's well-written. Sure it's maybe too all-encompassing but I like the philosophy behind it __________________
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04.23.2009, 05:02 PM	#35
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	"Pop" can't tell you much of anything just as any other so-called genre label.
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