[m1rr0r dash]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

is this marcus aurelius or some sort of ersatz zen? (i mean the original question of this thread-- the rest i haven't read yet)

ha. no classical philosophy here... in Once upon a Time in Mexico, Enrique Iglesias asks Antonio Banderas why they are doing this if they're not getting paid. Banderas says "A man who wants nothing is invincible," and then steps out from behind cover to blow away all the bad guys.

this struck me as an intellectually indefensible position if the only reason for seeking invincibilty is to make getting what you want easier...

[EVOLghost]

^^ bwuahahhahah

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash

ha. no classical philosophy here... in Once upon a Time in Mexico, Enrique Iglesias asks Antonio Banderas why they are doing this if they're not getting paid. Banderas says "A man who wants nothing is invincible," and then steps out from behind cover to blow away all the bad guys.

this struck me as an intellectually indefensible position if the only reason for seeking invincibilty is to make getting what you want easier...

oh, that's the crappy mainstream version of 'el mariachi", isn't it? if so, i'd bet money that it's ripped off from a bad dubbing of a kungfu movie and the bastardized origins are buddhist---some kind of zen story-- there are plenty of those around.

but the logic in this one, of course, is utter crap as you point out. if he wanted nothing he would not have wanted to shoot the extras. for bastardized orientalism, "ghost dog" did it much much better.

[Rob Instigator]

ghost dog knew it was bastardized! I love that movie!

that gangster rappin Flava Flav!

[looking glass spectacle]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

oh, that's the crappy mainstream version of 'el mariachi", isn't it? if so, i'd bet money that it's ripped off from a bad dubbing of a kungfu movie and the bastardized origins are buddhist---some kind of zen story-- there are plenty of those around.

but the logic in this one, of course, is utter crap as you point out. if he wanted nothing he would not have wanted to shoot the extras. for bastardized orientalism, "ghost dog" did it much much better.

all the el mariachi movies were made by robert rodriguez/troublemaker studios, they only became more 'mainstream' as rodriguez became more 'mainstream.' ...still how mainstream is a dude who resigned from the Writer's Guild after making this movie and later resigned from the Director's Guild so he could work with Frank Miller?

Once Upon a Time in Mexico is a very different feel than El Mariachi or Desperado, it was shot digital and was sort of a test case for the methods used in sin city. for most of the movie, they used foam rubber prop guns and then added flash, smoke, blood, bullet holes in post production.

rodriguez also continues his "one man film crew" method on this film - he produced, wrote, directed, operated the camera, did the editing, wrote and performed the music, and also did the production design, whatever that is... at any rate, it's not his best film and it's a shoot-em-up for sure, but rodriguez absolutely deserves to be called "the rebel without a crew." he shot this in under a month from a 45 page script for less than 30 million... sure he made el mariachi for like 500 dolllars, but he's hardly become mainstream as he's grown into larger budgets (still pocket change in hollywood)...

[knox]

this made me want burritos.

[Rob Instigator]

here you go

 

[knox]

they are very cute indeed.

[floatingslowly]

word for the wise: never fuck with a wild burro. they can smash coyotes into fur-pancakes with their back legs, their tasty tasty back legs.

[EVOLghost]

Honestly....I didn't even enjoy el mariachi that much...

[DeadDiscoDildo]

This is retarded. If he wants nothing then I'm sure he doesn't have a bullet proof vest or any kind of protection and would easily be shot/and or stabbed to death.

[m1rr0r dash]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

but the logic in this one, of course, is utter crap as you point out.

not that i'm a huge fan of logic, either.

Put on wreaths of ivy, take up the thyrsus and do not be surprised if tigers and panthers lie down, purring and curling round your legs!!!1111

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by looking glass spectacle

all the el mariachi movies were made by robert rodriguez/troublemaker studios, they only became more 'mainstream' as rodriguez became more 'mainstream.' ...still how mainstream is a dude who resigned from the Writer's Guild after making this movie and later resigned from the Director's Guild so he could work with Frank Miller?

Once Upon a Time in Mexico is a very different feel than El Mariachi or Desperado, it was shot digital and was sort of a test case for the methods used in sin city. for most of the movie, they used foam rubber prop guns and then added flash, smoke, blood, bullet holes in post production.

rodriguez also continues his "one man film crew" method on this film - he produced, wrote, directed, operated the camera, did the editing, wrote and performed the music, and also did the production design, whatever that is... at any rate, it's not his best film and it's a shoot-em-up for sure, but rodriguez absolutely deserves to be called "the rebel without a crew." he shot this in under a month from a 45 page script for less than 30 million... sure he made el mariachi for like 500 dolllars, but he's hardly become mainstream as he's grown into larger budgets (still pocket change in hollywood)...

oh, i totally admire his production methods and his financial independene from holly-wood and he's got ballz of steel, no doubt. his "10 minute film school" is one of my favorite websites of all times. hats off to the fucker on that regard.

but i really think he watered down el mariachi and made it extra-cheezy in order to make money to buy & equip his garage studio-- his day job, of sorts. shark boy and spy kids or something? ayayay, the terror-- again, day job, or parental indulgence, who knows.

i did like sin city though...

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash

not that i'm a huge fan of logic, either.

Put on wreaths of ivy, take up the thyrsus and do not be surprised if tigers and panthers lie down, purring and curling round your legs!!!1111

orpheus schmorpheus had no hand in el mariachi i'm afraid!