[atsonicpark]

On the mustang portion of this site, on the album histories, it tells, and on some of the tabs, it tells.

[akprodr]

Aha! Thanks

[ann ashtray]

Thurston writes most of the songs, Lee is what makes those songs good....

That's how I think of them.

Or do I?

[[Sandbag]]

Yeh, Lee is the lead guitar most of the times.

Yesterday, I was watching the Sao Paulo performance (from last year) and he really fucked-up with the riff thing at the end of 'Jams Runs Free'.. it was like a total turn off.

I also dislike when he sings his songs with radical changes in the vocal melodies.. like Mote.. the original melody is so driving..and he sings the whole thing like shouting... argh

[[Sandbag]]

But I still love him.. he does great stuff live, too.

[EVOLghost]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

Thurston writes most of the songs, Lee is what makes those songs good....

That's how I think of them.

Or do I?

I think Thurston goes into the studios and is just like "Hey guys, check this out cool riff/thrash"

[bloodcrystallisetosand]

I can't remember where I read it but Thurston has said that Lee is the actual 'musician' out of the pair - the one who grew up listening to the Dead and Dylan and Neil Young and all that. Thurston was a noise no-wave fuckabout or something so saying that Lee writes the melodies and Thurston the skronky weird shit is probably right (for the most part anyhow).

I thought that Thurston can't write a vocal melody to save his life was so well acknowledged as to be a kinda fan in joke... and also agree on the point about Lee shouting - he has a cool singing voice but sometimes overdoes the shouty bits.

[alyasa]

They seem to be more of a twin guitar style; or sometimes even triple guitar... Can't really think of them in traditional lead/rhythm roles; almost impossible... In fact the way the music is written for the guitar recalls more symphonic or orchestral work, instead of conventional rock guitar. There sometimes isn't even a typical rhythm track. My two cents.

[GeneticKiss]

When I list my influences as a guitarist, I always put Lee instead of Thurston, because his more melodic, deliberate style of playing has influenced me a bit more than Thurston's crazy freakouts...

Although, that's not to say I don't stray away from freakouts or the occassional tasteless bit of pseudo-shred.

But wasn't the ambient noisy background on Radical Adults Lick Godhead Style Lee?

Also, with regards to Lee's singing-I actually love how he can sing well, but then mixes it up with more shouty bits and the occasional burst into spoken word...I've tried it myself, but it always sucked.

[Jeremy]

Lee's definitely a better guitarist in technical skill (Thurston is better at feedback and what not though, but Lee's good at noise making too though), but generally they trade lead lines for songs (Thurston does all the leads on Incinerate, for example).

I can see why people would see Lee as more of the lead guitarist. I prefer to think of them as left guitar and right guitar, personally....

~Jeremy~

[dasx]

I think that technically neither of them is great guitarist, but their style is really unique and that makes them both excellent guitarists.

There's no lead/rhythm guitars in Sonic Youth, just different guitar parts.

[chrome noise tape]

Originally Posted by dasx

I think that technically neither of them is great guitarist, but their style is really unique and that makes them both excellent guitarists.

There's no lead/rhythm guitars in Sonic Youth, just different guitar parts.

that's right. the chemistry between them is really unique. but that don't mean they are bad technically...well to the eyes of standart system they are.

[Rob Instigator]

If we are putting them into Lead and Rhythm, then Thurston ussually provides the "lead" skronk while Lee provides the rhythm/background skronk

[SonikJesus]

Originally Posted by alyasa

They seem to be more of a twin guitar style; or sometimes even triple guitar... Can't really think of them in traditional lead/rhythm roles; almost impossible... In fact the way the music is written for the guitar recalls more symphonic or orchestral work, instead of conventional rock guitar. There sometimes isn't even a typical rhythm track. My two cents.

I see what you mean. However, I've always thought of SY as a rock band in structure. This might seem weird to some given SY's sound. However, when you look at the way the songs are structured and the rhythms they use, it really is the same as any other, more traditional, rock band. Just instead of using standard tuning and actual musical notes all the time they instead use non-standard tunings and weird noises as well as musical notes. I guess you could say that they do play rhythm and lead parts, just in their own unconventional style.

[Adrian]

Originally Posted by themawt71

yeah i think that's the case. especially in the last decade or so where thurston will often bring in a skeletal structure of song and then everyone adds their parts. lee adding his lee'ds!

mote is an example of lee being the rhythm gtr and thurston being the lead gtr.

no, no, i think he's not lead guitar (sorry, my ingles is not good, i'm from the Argentina)

[Adrian]

this year sonic youth come to the argentina?

[Count Mecha]

Hmm, I never put too much effort into which one was doing which part. But when I listen to a song, I usually figure the part that's 'the lead' as you would have to put it is Lee's doing. However, whenever the song has a solo, like Purr or whatever, I always figure it's Thurston doing that.

[amerikangod]

If anything, I think of Thurston as the melody guitarist and Lee as the noise guitarist, where applicable.

[Genteel Death]

I saw Thurston Moore playing an acoust guitar recently, and can testify that I was really let down by how poorly he can play the instrument in a meaner guise. He's obviously talented at getting ideas/songs/melodies out of an electric guitar but the truth hit me in the face that lee ranaldo is the true force of this band guitar-wise.

[automatic bzooty]

i think thurston is an accordianist and lee plays the hurdy gurdy parts

but what the fuck do i know