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Old 11.21.2012, 12:39 PM   #21
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Keep your filthy hands off my NASA budget, you fucking hippies!

Maybe they found a giant roach clip...IN SPACE.

So, we got plenty of giant roach clips here as it is. Hey, recall my Shuttle Endeavor thread, I'm no longer beefing with NASA by premise, but we can surely debate the merits of individual NASA programs.
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Old 11.21.2012, 12:43 PM   #22
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As soon as we stop learning about ourselves and the universe, we start stagnating and dying.

Plus, there's GOLD in them thar hills!
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Old 11.21.2012, 12:50 PM   #23
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Imagine if they find sentient life elsewhere in our Universe and it turns out that the Rastafarians were correct all along...
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Old 11.21.2012, 01:06 PM   #24
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Do you reckon that the lesser gravity on Mars will cause oversized floating nalgas?
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Old 11.21.2012, 01:09 PM   #25
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Nope, because nalgas are shaped by having to hold the upper body up while walking

lesser gravity would end up with everyone having Ke$a ass

 
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Old 11.21.2012, 02:08 PM   #26
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Wtf is that martian shit, Rob. Nast.
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Old 11.21.2012, 08:09 PM   #28
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As soon as we stop learning about ourselves and the universe, we start stagnating and dying.

Plus, there's GOLD in them thar hills!

and if we spend money on said knowledge while millions of people are stagnate and dying, was it worth it? See that is the true difference between knowledge and wisdom
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Old 11.21.2012, 08:41 PM   #29
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Life seems to crop up wherever it can. Just look at all the extremophile life forms here on Earth. I, for one, would be shocked to learn that there was no life on Mars, particularly subsoil microbes. They could eat the iron in the soil just like the bacteria that are munching on the Titanic right now.

Can't wait for the announcement.

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Old 11.21.2012, 09:33 PM   #32
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Life seems to crop up wherever it can. Just look at all the extremophile life forms here on Earth. I, for one, would be shocked to learn that there was no life on Mars, particularly subsoil microbes. They could eat the iron in the soil just like the bacteria that are munching on the Titanic right now.

Can't wait for the announcement.

We've been patiently exploring and studying in detail Mars for several decades, the conclusive evidence? Mars is a dead planet, has been a dead planet for a long time, and without a magnetic field, may in fact always remain a dead planet. What NASA is searching for is not evidence of existing life, rather of the evidence that there once WAS life. BILLIONS of dollars annually just seems wrongly spent to go grave-robbing Mars to put more shit in the Smithsonian and British Museum

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them all gone crazy, mass producing test tube babies, them all gone crazy, on the moon in search of aliens.. on the moon in search of aliens?
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Old 11.21.2012, 10:22 PM   #33
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Deinococcus radiodurans can survive a 5000 Gy dose of acute ionizing radiation. It can be frozen, dehydrated, exposed to vacuum, and STILL be revivified.

If there's one thing the human race knows about life, it's that they have NO clue (either earthly, or beyond) what the hell life "is".

Suchfriends, I fear that you, and those of like mind, are being terribly short-sided.
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Old 11.22.2012, 12:33 AM   #34
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Suchfriends, I fear that you, and those of like mind, are being terribly short-sided.

Funny, I often think the same thing about folks supporting crazy NASA schemes.. Folks who invented nuclear weapons were very short-sighted too, pause and reflect on that for a moment..

"Those of like mind" I am not exactly Glen Beck or John Hagee here, folks are hardly more open-minded than my mushroom eating ass, however in this regard, I fear perhaps NASA junkies are the ones with the closed mind. What exactly IS the point of spending a BILLIONS of dollars to learn about Martian geology? To have really inspiring textbooks? For scientists types to bust a nut?

 
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Old 11.22.2012, 12:41 AM   #35
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Rally sight of Mars ships in darkness, cite them truths right in front of their kids, but you're bound to see a world filled with your misfortune and dread, well the point of it, know you're wrong, well the point is that their money covers of all it, in search of life?

Can't y'all see the anthropomorphic irony here? All we will ever find on Mars is exactly what we have on earth, the very human world of misfortune and fear, because these are created by humans, and everywhere humans go, our human detritus follows with us in our wake..

Besides of which, in search of life? As if there were no life on Earth worth mentioning..
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Old 11.23.2012, 03:41 PM   #36
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so basically they are looking for fart gas

http://science.time.com/2012/11/20/a...history-books/


which is commendable & all but from there to actual bacteria/dna/etc? a long step. though it would be fucking cool. fingers crossed and i hope the news don't disappoint.

the anti-science crowd of course decries research as if it was all a zero-sum game. it's not. having earth-centric creationism shattered would be such a delight in and of itself.
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so basically they are looking for fart gas

http://science.time.com/2012/11/20/a...history-books/


which is commendable & all but from there to actual bacteria/dna/etc? a long step. though it would be fucking cool. fingers crossed and i hope the news don't disappoint.

the anti-science crowd of course decries research as if it was all a zero-sum game. it's not. having earth-centric creationism shattered would be such a delight in and of itself.

 

Call me old fashioned, but isn't this an easier, potentially cheaper (after all these are women and women can be as expensive as NASA ), and definitely more fun way to find fart gases?

I will reiterate: no magnetic field = no life; our Mars exploration is a giant geology field trip, no more, no less..
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geology is great though.

so why do you think life couldn't exist without a magnetic field? and wouldn't it be better to go on evidence rather than dogma?

would you eat your shoe like werner herzog if they find bacteria on mars?

ps-- http://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2011/toc_2011.html

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What going on (and what I alluded to in my earlier post to this thread) is SuchFriendsAreDangerous' misinterpretation of the fact that Mars, having had her liquid iron core solidified long ago, lost her ability to generate a magnetic field which would otherwise fend off the solar wind to prevent it from blasting the atmosphere into outer space, in the manner of Earth's magnetic field generated by our liquid iron core. While it's true that the solar wind has blasted most of Mars' atmosphere into outer space, it is also true that Mars' gravity has kept some of it in place.

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Considering realities like Deinococcus radiodurans there may indeed be microscopic life on Mars, but I'd doubt it because what else but said bacteria could survive in the first place? Are you suggesting a thriving ecosystem solely of radiation resistant bacterias? Is that what we are hoping to find? Wonderful, hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars well spent then I suppose

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geology is great though.

so why do you think life couldn't exist without a magnetic field? and wouldn't it be better to go on evidence rather than dogma?

would you eat your shoe like werner herzog if they find bacteria on mars?

ps-- http://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2011/toc_2011.html

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Its not dogma silly, its science like Bill Nye yo! What NASA is looking for on Mars is not necessarily evidence of existing life, but rather, evidence of previously existing life. Further, that is really only secondary, the primary objective of the past missions and rovers is basic geology

Geology is fun, but is it worth such funding? Again, I am not against NASA in general, just spending shitloads of monies on intellectual curiosities meanwhile people around the world and even in our own country are quite literally starving to death or dying of preventable diseases..

Priorities people!
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