Is Trump really a serious contender for the Republican nomination? - Page 233

Bytor Peltor · 09.27.2018, 03:47 AM

Making accusations while refusing to testify is a violation of every principle of due process

Today is not a criminal trial, there is no probable cause affidavit.
If Mrs. Ford shows up to testify (I highly doubt it), she will be sworn in and then subject to perjury......there are no questions that are off-limits!

I don’t see anything that leads to an FBI investigation. Not because I’ve already made up my mind, because I understand that the FBI doesn't usually conduct State level of investigations. It’s never the FBI’s responsibility to breathe life into an investigation. Mrs. Ford has had 37 years to file a police report at the State level -HOWEVER- having zero evidence and zero collaborating witnesses, no local or state agency would file charges after all these years.

Bytor Peltor · 09.27.2018, 09:00 AM

Alysa Milano is in attendance as a guest of Feinstein.
The Bill Cosby defense knew better than to parade Rudy and Theo.
Word is Mrs. Ford is on campus, she may speak afterall.
......Anita Hill opening statement ran 18 minutes
......Justice Clarence Thomas opening statement ran 21 minutes
However, there is a STRONG chance that the Democrats will start to protest soon as the hearing begins, demanding that the Committee should hear from the other witnesses (none of them have evidence or collaborating witnesses).
......could the Committee clear the room......hope Stuj has some popcorn!

Bytor Peltor · 09.27.2018, 11:35 AM

Ford’s opening statement was emotional and credible.

......but wait a minute.

Ford says she was so traumatized that she almost flunked out of college.

Wasn’t she 15 at time??

Soooo, why not flunk out of high school?

There are yearbook photos of her still partying during her Junior year!

Bytor Peltor · 09.28.2018, 04:42 AM

The events that transpired Friday was NOT due process!

No presentation of evidence, no collaboration of testimony or evidence.

The biggest travesty from yesterday is that the American people watching will now believe this is what due process looks like.

In other words all you need is an accusation to destroy someone’s life!

Original common law required a crime to be committed and two corroborating witnesses. Then common law moved to one wittiness and evidence.

Friday left us with a single person making an accusation and the only corroboration is the passion and conviction in which it is delivered.

I’m not saying Mrs. Ford is lying.

I’m saying there is NO WAY for anyone to know.

Liberty has been kicked to the curb and this is a dangerous thing.

Books will be written and classes taught in our Universities.

guest · 09.28.2018, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Ford’s opening statement was emotional and credible.

......but wait a minute.

Ford says she was so traumatized that she almost flunked out of college.

Wasn’t she 15 at time??

Soooo, why not flunk out of high school?

There are yearbook photos of her still partying during her Junior year!

good fucking grief you suck.....really concerning that someone with so little capacity for compassion has children. are you truly so far up your own arse as to be completely oblivious to how latent trauma can really obliterate someone's life?

your devolution/emergence/whichever into unadulterated scum has been a tragedy to watch

Screaming Skull · 09.28.2018, 11:21 AM

Rumor has it Sonic Youth was on the brink of reuniting to record a version of ’Youth Against Fascism 2018’ but couldn’t bear to utter the words, “I believe Catherine Blasey-Ford” after the political atrocity committed by the Democratics yesterday. Now they are considering a cover of ‘Search and Destroy’.

Another can of worms
Another stomach turns
Yeah your ghetto burns
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
You got a stupid man
You got a Ku Klux Klan
Your fuckin' battle plan
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
A sieg heil-in' squirt
You're an impotent jerk
Yeah a fascist twerp
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
Black robe and swill
I believe Anita Hill
The judge will rot in hell
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
Yeah a cross on fire
By a Christian liar
A black attack and fire
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
Yeah the president sucks
He's a war pig fuck
His shit is out of luck
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
Another Nazi attack
Skinhead is cracked
My blood is black
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
We're banging pots and pans
To make you understand
We gonna bury you man
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
I'm a human wreck
Redneck in check
I killed the teacher's pet
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate
It's the song I hate

ilduclo · 09.28.2018, 12:23 PM

you're a screamer, all right

Catholics rescind support for Krapenaugh (SJ, the Jesuits, the group that ran his high school)
American Bar Assoc (legal society, not Brett's "-ski" club) rescind support for Krapenaugh

The Soup Nazi · 09.28.2018, 03:18 PM

Democratic senators: Judge Kavanaugh, would you be willing to ask the White House for an FBI investigation?

Kavanaugh: I PLAYED BASKETBALL! I PLAYED BASKETBALL! I WAS THE CAPTAIN! WAAAHHHH!

!@#$%! · 09.28.2018, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

The events that transpired Friday was NOT due process!

No presentation of evidence, no collaboration of testimony or evidence.

The biggest travesty from yesterday is that the American people watching will now believe this is what due process looks like.

In other words all you need is an accusation to destroy someone’s life!

Original common law required a crime to be committed and two corroborating witnesses. Then common law moved to one wittiness and evidence.

Friday left us with a single person making an accusation and the only corroboration is the passion and conviction in which it is delivered.

I’m not saying Mrs. Ford is lying.

I’m saying there is NO WAY for anyone to know.

Liberty has been kicked to the curb and this is a dangerous thing.

Books will be written and classes taught in our Universities.

i don’t know where you get your advanced info but when i woke up 530am friday i saw this telling me about the future?

impressive

so, fbi investigation otw

ilduclo · 09.29.2018, 11:15 AM

!@#$%! · 09.30.2018, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

A simple typo on my part. It should have said, Thursday!

re: FBI Investigation......

FBI doesn’t reach conclusions
FBI Ivestigates FACTS

He said
She said
They said

I will be shocked if the FBI Investigation produces ANYTHING because they have NOTHING to work with!

Mark Judge says he will speak to / cooperate with the FBI......but Mr. Judge has already said he wasn’t there.

Was Blasey Ford Even At The Party???

if facts are so important... why do you state so many non-facts?

Bytor Peltor · 09.30.2018, 03:01 PM

???

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

if facts are so important... why do you state so many non-facts?

ilduclo · 09.30.2018, 03:16 PM

bitey 3
symbo 1

Bytor Peltor · 10.01.2018, 09:27 AM

USMCA = the Market setting new highs!

ilduclo · 10.01.2018, 09:48 AM

Bitey for the kill

!@#$%! · 10.01.2018, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

USMCA = the Market setting new highs!

“world does not blow up today. investors sigh with relief.”

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

USMCA is the best deal I could have hoped for. In particular, it sets new standards for labor protection (so Mexican goods won't receive an effective subsidy from employers' preventing their workers from unionizing), and retains the old dispute resolution system from Chapter 19 of NAFTA, rather than the Investor-State Dispute System (ISDS) of the trans-Pacific Partnership (which would have greatly strengthened the power of multinational corporations at the expense the national governments of the contracting countries). It's a victory for the American working class, and an implementation of one of Trump's major campaign promises (which was also one of the biggest reasons for Hillary's defeat in 2016).

we’ll see how things pan out in the end, but im glad to see protections for mexican labor unions in this far-from-ratified agreement. that alone is the most important bit that could solve a lot of problems.

eta:
but have you ever known republicans to be friends of labor?

i haven’t...

this looks to me like nothing but campaign demagoguery ahead of th midterms. as the incoming mexican president points out.

but i dont have a crystal ball or tell fortunes, so we’ll see...

Bytor Peltor · 10.01.2018, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

“world does not blow up today. investors sigh with relief.”

As an active investor and someone nearing retirement......as someone who has a steak in a small business, USMCA isn’t a “cure all,” but it’s a step in the right direction!

YES - another campaign promise kept.

Possibly completed NOW just in time for the mid-terms, possibly DELAYED until now with so much focus on the Muller and Kavanaugh foolishness.

The first Tuesday of November is just around the corner and soon as it’s outcomes are in the rear view mirror, look for Trump to accomplish additional campaign promises.

......and even though things will appear to be going great, BEWARE THE BEAR!!!

YES - there is a BEAR market on the horizon!

The first telltale sign will be in the BOND market = BOND Funds are heavily leveraged and I fear the bubble will soon burst. When BONDS increase, their interest rates go up.

Lots of people have borrowed money to purchase BONDS and when the interest rates rise, the borrowers end up in BIG TROUBLE!!

WE HAVE A LIQUIDITY CRISIS

And of course......continued DEFICIT SPENDING!!!

But President Trump is doing what he can to help keep kicking the can down the road.

ilduclo · 10.01.2018, 02:23 PM

The mingling of right-wing populism and the disintegration of conservative tone are inextricably linked. Right-wing populism thrives on anger, resentment and hostility toward elites. To defend irrational policies built on non-facts and fear of outsiders, vast conspiracies are required. (You really don’t see many rational, humble, modest, respectful right-wing populists.) If know-nothingism is essential to support your movement, you’re not likely to see many intellectually honest, measured leaders.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.68b309d50b83

Bytor Peltor · 10.01.2018, 10:41 PM

The Case Against Kavanaugh Is Collapsing

Yale Classmates Try And Fail To Show That Kavanaugh Lied About Drinking

Missouri Voters Rejecting Democratic Senator McCaskill For Opposing Kavanaugh

Lindsey Graham Tells Hannity: NBC Has ‘Been a Co-Conspirator in the Destruction of Kavanaugh’

Bytor Peltor · 10.01.2018, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guest

are you truly so far up your own arse as to be completely oblivious to how latent trauma can really obliterate someone's life?

QUESTION to Dr. Ford: Why did your best friend say she never met Kavanaugh & the party did not happen?

Dr. Ford: "Leland has significant health challenges, and I am happy that she is focusing on herself"

09.27.2018, 03:47 AM	#4641
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	Making accusations while refusing to testify is a violation of every principle of due process Today is not a criminal trial, there is no probable cause affidavit. If Mrs. Ford shows up to testify (I highly doubt it), she will be sworn in and then subject to perjury......there are no questions that are off-limits! I don’t see anything that leads to an FBI investigation. Not because I’ve already made up my mind, because I understand that the FBI doesn't usually conduct State level of investigations. It’s never the FBI’s responsibility to breathe life into an investigation. Mrs. Ford has had 37 years to file a police report at the State level -HOWEVER- having zero evidence and zero collaborating witnesses, no local or state agency would file charges after all these years.
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09.27.2018, 09:00 AM	#4642
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	Alysa Milano is in attendance as a guest of Feinstein. The Bill Cosby defense knew better than to parade Rudy and Theo. Word is Mrs. Ford is on campus, she may speak afterall. ......Anita Hill opening statement ran 18 minutes ......Justice Clarence Thomas opening statement ran 21 minutes However, there is a STRONG chance that the Democrats will start to protest soon as the hearing begins, demanding that the Committee should hear from the other witnesses (none of them have evidence or collaborating witnesses). ......could the Committee clear the room......hope Stuj has some popcorn!
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09.27.2018, 11:35 AM	#4643
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	Ford’s opening statement was emotional and credible. ......but wait a minute. Ford says she was so traumatized that she almost flunked out of college. Wasn’t she 15 at time?? Soooo, why not flunk out of high school? There are yearbook photos of her still partying during her Junior year!
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09.28.2018, 04:42 AM	#4644
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	The events that transpired Friday was NOT due process! No presentation of evidence, no collaboration of testimony or evidence. The biggest travesty from yesterday is that the American people watching will now believe this is what due process looks like. In other words all you need is an accusation to destroy someone’s life! Original common law required a crime to be committed and two corroborating witnesses. Then common law moved to one wittiness and evidence. Friday left us with a single person making an accusation and the only corroboration is the passion and conviction in which it is delivered. I’m not saying Mrs. Ford is lying. I’m saying there is NO WAY for anyone to know. Liberty has been kicked to the curb and this is a dangerous thing. Books will be written and classes taught in our Universities.
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09.28.2018, 11:21 AM	#4646
Screaming Skull children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 393	Rumor has it Sonic Youth was on the brink of reuniting to record a version of ’Youth Against Fascism 2018’ but couldn’t bear to utter the words, “I believe Catherine Blasey-Ford” after the political atrocity committed by the Democratics yesterday. Now they are considering a cover of ‘Search and Destroy’. Another can of worms Another stomach turns Yeah your ghetto burns It's the song I hate It's the song I hate You got a stupid man You got a Ku Klux Klan Your fuckin' battle plan It's the song I hate It's the song I hate A sieg heil-in' squirt You're an impotent jerk Yeah a fascist twerp It's the song I hate It's the song I hate Black robe and swill I believe Anita Hill The judge will rot in hell It's the song I hate It's the song I hate Yeah a cross on fire By a Christian liar A black attack and fire It's the song I hate It's the song I hate Yeah the president sucks He's a war pig fuck His shit is out of luck It's the song I hate It's the song I hate Another Nazi attack Skinhead is cracked My blood is black It's the song I hate It's the song I hate We're banging pots and pans To make you understand We gonna bury you man It's the song I hate It's the song I hate I'm a human wreck Redneck in check I killed the teacher's pet It's the song I hate It's the song I hate It's the song I hate It's the song I hate It's the song I hate It's the song I hate It's the song I hate It's the song I hate It's the song I hate It's the song I hate It's the song I hate
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09.28.2018, 12:23 PM	#4647
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	you're a screamer, all right Catholics rescind support for Krapenaugh (SJ, the Jesuits, the group that ran his high school) American Bar Assoc (legal society, not Brett's "-ski" club) rescind support for Krapenaugh
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09.28.2018, 03:18 PM	#4648
The Soup Nazi invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Del Boca Vista Posts: 18,225	Democratic senators: Judge Kavanaugh, would you be willing to ask the White House for an FBI investigation? Kavanaugh: I PLAYED BASKETBALL! I PLAYED BASKETBALL! I WAS THE CAPTAIN! WAAAHHHH! __________________ GADJI BERI BIMBA GLANDRIDI LAULI LONNI CADORI GADJAM A BIM BERI GLASSALA GLANDRIDI E GLASSALA TUFFM I ZIMBRA
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09.29.2018, 11:15 AM	#4650
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305
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ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	bitey 3 symbo 1
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10.01.2018, 09:27 AM	#4654
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	USMCA = the Market setting new highs!
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10.01.2018, 09:48 AM	#4655
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	Bitey for the kill
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10.01.2018, 02:23 PM	#4658
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	The mingling of right-wing populism and the disintegration of conservative tone are inextricably linked. Right-wing populism thrives on anger, resentment and hostility toward elites. To defend irrational policies built on non-facts and fear of outsiders, vast conspiracies are required. (You really don’t see many rational, humble, modest, respectful right-wing populists.) If know-nothingism is essential to support your movement, you’re not likely to see many intellectually honest, measured leaders. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.68b309d50b83
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10.01.2018, 10:41 PM	#4659
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	The Case Against Kavanaugh Is Collapsing Yale Classmates Try And Fail To Show That Kavanaugh Lied About Drinking Missouri Voters Rejecting Democratic Senator McCaskill For Opposing Kavanaugh Lindsey Graham Tells Hannity: NBC Has ‘Been a Co-Conspirator in the Destruction of Kavanaugh’
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