[Bytor Peltor]

Just yesterday I found a sealed copy of this CD stacked with several CD's in my closet. Think I paid $1.99 for this when our Death Star size HEB closed out thier music department a few years back.

I had this on cassette from my high school days and remember their being some gnarly keyboard sounds......your description has peeked my curiosity!

Originally Posted by pepper_green

Black Sabbath - Never Say Die! "Air Dance" is nice with one of the best Sabbath intros along with "Cornucopia". as a whole its not bad.

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Ween suck.

Ween suck.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

SUBHUMANS Los Angeles, CA. 10-29-2015 - YouTube
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AElTWhghLd4

Find me catching fame in this vid around 6:50-740.. im next to my homie who is wearing a blue LA cap and we're facing the camera clearly having more fun than i am able to remember

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

Alice Cooper - Killer
maybe some Misfits and telepathic tilapia later before going trick or treating.

Killer is just great! As also Love It To Death, School´s Out, Billion Dollar Babies & Welcome to my nightmare. Really love also those experimental two first albums they made to Zappa straight-label! And Misfits of Danzig era rules!

[Mortte Jousimo]

Just listened BS Sabotage, it´s quite a while I´ve listened it before today. Sounded so awesome! BTW they have copied the end of the Writ straight from Alice Cooper`s Only Women Bleed.

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

Sabotage is some frightening heavy shit, musically and lyrically. hell, I even like "going insane(radio)". Sabbath Bloody Sabbath just doesn't hold up sound wise and some songs just peter out. the songs sound great live from that period but I find it torture to sit through so i skip to "Killing Yrself to Live" then cut the thing off.

I have never fully get into Thrill Of It All & the Writ. They´re ok, but nothing more, I think they´re just recycling old ideas. But the rest of the album is just dynamite, also always loved Insane. I think Bloody Sabbath is better entity, but on the other hand, hard to say which is better, because Symptom, Megalomania, Supertzar etc. are just so great songs.

Now listening Magma´s first album, it´s almost same experience as Trout Mask was to me when I get into it fully first time!

[The Soup Nazi]

 

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

Sabotage is some frightening heavy shit, musically and lyrically. hell, I even like "going insane(radio)". Sabbath Bloody Sabbath just doesn't hold up sound wise and some songs just peter out. the songs sound great live from that period but I find it torture to sit through so i skip to "Killing Yrself to Live" then cut the thing off.

Sabotage is my fav Sabbath album, its sounds like Sabbath doing a Zeppelin record only better

[Severian]

The last time we talked about Sabbath I couldn't get MOR, Vol. 4 or Paranoid out of my head for fucking weeks. I woke up and went to sleep with songs from those albums just pulsing through my brain. So I'm gonna sit this one out, though Sabotage is definitely awesome.

I've been listening to oldish Swans, the new album by Milo, Erase Erratta's Lost Weekend (which is a great 2015 albums than was kinda overshadowed by No Cities to Love, and shouldn't be forgotten).

Also Actress (aka Levantis) - Romantic Psychology 1 and an album I slept on for far too long: Your Discretion is Trust by Cities Aviv. Damn that's a good album. SpaceGhostPurrp better step his game up.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

And wait, how is Sabotage heavy but Sabbath Bloody Sabbath NOT?

[Mortte Jousimo]

Again I think Sabbath has never done any Zep, they just done Sabbath! And Sabbath is unique, Zep not.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

And wait, how is Sabotage heavy but Sabbath Bloody Sabbath NOT?

It's not- I mean, yeah Sabotage is heavy, but Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is totally effing heavy too, and that's a fact. Personally I prefer SBS, but I seem to be in the minority on that one.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

yea, nothing they ever did sounded like Zeppelin. there's ideas they took but expanded on.


the first six Sabbath albums go like this for me:

Vol.4 the best,(the other four in the middle),SBS the worst. what they wanted to achieve on SBS they perfected on Sabotage. "The Writ" is a masterpiece.

I agree about Vol.4. The best. After that, Master of Reality, Paranoid, SBS, Sabotage, s/t.

I do think they "did" Zeppelin, not in a derivative way. What I mean is that some of their songs seemed to come from a more wholistic Rock n' Roll perspective, one that relied on folk and blues and interplay between instruments, resulting in more of a "rock and roll" sound than a "metal" sound.

I'm talking about songs like "Wicked World", which feels more like Cream or Zep, with a more traditional kind of vibe. Or, as I mentioned in the last BS free for all, the second part of the verse in "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" which has a very Led Zeppelin IV feel to it, even though the song starts out by busting down the door with, total medieval witchcraft and shit. But the pummel breaks and things get pretty, and the resulting sound is easy to describe as being "Zeppelin-like"

but better.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Severian

It's not- I mean, yeah Sabotage is heavy, but Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is totally effing heavy too, and that's a fact. Personally I prefer SBS, but I seem to be in the minority on that one.

While Sabotage is quite literally my all time fav sabbath album sabbath bloody sabbath fights for a slot in my top 3 with Vol4 depending on my mood. Its a kick ass record

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

Again I think Sabbath has never done any Zep, they just done Sabbath! And Sabbath is unique, Zep not.

Agreed totally accept for when we're talking about Sabotage which sounds very much like a Sep record only improved and better.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Interestingly i first fell in love with Sabotage during a psychedelic experience so that is probably apt

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Haha did you notice me? I was going insane at "am i going insane" levels! I just downloaded those vids today was watching them again man i love Subhumans live like no other stage show!

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

yea, nothing they ever did sounded like Zeppelin. there's ideas they took but expanded on.
.

Well, I don´t hear anything similar in LZ first album & BS first album (well maybe only something BS in Dazed & Confused, but Page had already taken that song from Jake Holmes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1g7qFaWaLk ). Also not their later albums. It´s of course possible BS listened LZ albums and LZ BS albums.

[Bytor Peltor]

Head Of Wantastiquet from Stu's tapeworm blog......about 20 minutes in, a keyboard sound slowly starts pulsating and builds to an accompanying guitar that sounds so amazing......another GREAT recording by Stu!

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

ha, btw...

how awesome is this goddamn shit?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejjRB-WIKTA

Ha Ha, this is so horrible it turns good! (I really wonder does Alice remembers anything of this song or videomaking)