[!@#$%!]

HEY. i have an idea for you. why don't you sell the current house with its giant spaces and utility bills and buy the new mexico place from her? then you can fix it and she can visit you whenever

is it near any kind of city?

you can do a lot with satellite internet these days. they just launched a new one, faster-- i can't get a contract with it cuz my life in in suspense at the moment (jobs, etc)

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

HEY. i have an idea for you. why don't you sell the current house with its giant spaces and utility bills and buy the new mexico place from her? then you can fix it and she can visit you whenever

is it near any kind of city?

you can do a lot with satellite internet these days. they just launched a new one, faster-- i can't get a contract with it cuz my life in in suspense at the moment (jobs, etc)

Hah. Yeah, we've floated that idea. But it's nowhere near anything. Really. I've never been as isolated. It's AWESOME except when you need to go to, like, a store. And we lost our truck for hauling water. one of us should fly out there soon and take a look see though. It's been a year since anyone was there, and that makes me nervous.

I'd love to though. I'm not sure it's practical just now. Trying to juggle two homes with a (basically) two-person family is tough, especially when one of you is 65. I'll keep it in the idea jar though.

ETA: Are idea jars a thing? I have no clue. But that's where I'm told I should put my swears, so I figure jars are fair game for non-tangibles.

[!@#$%!]

yeah on GTD it's called "MAYBE/SOMEDAY". good system

so-- do you wanna sell it?

where it at?? how big the land?

ha ha ha ha

hmmmm

btw, read brad lancaster on water harvesting

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i read multiple reviews of that book and feel like "nothing to see here". in the sense that there are no new ideas advanced by it, but rather it's a compendium of common knowledge plus some errors (see the review on "the guardian" for a list of gaffes).

no new ideas except for maybe the bit about humans rallying around fictions. that's a great model to see things. human rights as religion, sure. but do i need to read 500 pages to grasp that? nope. it's immediately graspable, thanks-- next?

i sort of don't believe in books anymore. sad but true. all that fattening of pages for what could take 2.

And that's just negated everything you said before. Some things aren't as easy as a two page summary. That's like saying you get all the information you need about the news from Twitter.

There are books out there that will focus purely on the rise of capitalism, others focusing on the idea of animal rights and that's fine. But that's not what this book set about to do, as the title hints at. If anything, books like Sapiens help the reader push where to focus onto next.

Just cos one person knows all about the dawn of man and the change from foraging to agriculture doesn't mean the next is.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

And that's just negated everything you said before. Some things aren't as easy as a two page summary. That's like saying you get all the information you need about the news from Twitter.

There are books out there that will focus purely on the rise of capitalism, others focusing on the idea of animal rights and that's fine. But that's not what this book set about to do, as the title hints at. If anything, books like Sapiens help the reader push where to focus onto next.

Just cos one person knows all about the dawn of man and the change from foraging to agriculture doesn't mean the next is.

right. which is why i'd rather gather the information in discrete packets. in other words--essays.

what i'm aiming at is a discrepancy between the need for knowledge and the the need for publishers to do business. publishers need glossy attractive packets that look good in a coffee table, knowledge only requires... to fill the gaps in knowledge, plus the new ideas.

this is why i find myself reading wikipedia multiple times a day, whereas it takes a lot for me to commit to a book. got to the point where i've started giving wikipedia money-- they really do me a huge service which i can't ignore.

now, as for errors to be found on wikipedia-- there are errors to be found everywhere. read the guardian's review i mention and you'll see examples.

but yeah. i'm not saying i'm against reading or against ideas. it's just the 500-page volumes i find myself increasingly less willing to handle. i'd buy only "select chapters" if i could-- or pamphlets. many 18th/19th century pamphlets changed the world and didn't need to come in thick volumes (let's look in wikipedia for a list ha ha ha).

where did pamphlets go?

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

yeah on GTD it's called "MAYBE/SOMEDAY". good system

so-- do you wanna sell it?

where it at?? how big the land?

ha ha ha ha

hmmmm

btw, read brad lancaster on water harvesting

Eh, that's getting into specifics that violate my personal privacy rules about internet blah-blahing. Want info for real, pm me and give me some juicy dets I can use against you if you stalk me.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

where did pamphlets go?

Internet. Also landfills or pricey recycled paper?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Severian

Eh, that's getting into specifics that violate my personal privacy rules about internet blah-blahing. Want info for real, pm me and give me some juicy dets I can use against you if you stalk me.

true dat. but my pms are full! full i tell you!

ok here is one: my porn name is narcissus black

Originally Posted by Severian

Internet. Also landfills or pricey recycled paper?

no! the new york library apparently has an important collection of historical pamphlets

the landfill is where my book boxes are going. i have not opened them in years and not sure the prices are worth selling.

but yeah. we need a netflix/spotify of book chapters. why buy a whole album when you just want 2 songs? same with books: i'll take the important essays. please keep the fluff.

anyway still trying to distill a flowchart from that hippy book. hippys are confusing! the ramblings and lack of certitude! i need clear formulas.

working on it

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

true dat. but my pms are full! full i tell you!

ok here is one: my porn name is narcissus black



no! the new york library apparently has an important collection of historical pamphlets

the landfill is where my book boxes are going. i have not opened them in years and not sure the prices are worth selling.

but yeah. we need a netflix/spotify of book chapters. why buy a whole album when you just want 2 songs? same with books: i'll take the important essays. please keep the fluff.

anyway still trying to distill a flowchart from that hippy book. hippys are confusing! the ramblings and lack of certitude! i need clear formulas.

working on it

That's why I love science writing and (good) journalism. To the point, no bullshit, no fluff, just mad dets and facts and formulas and structure. STRUCTURE!

I suck at feature-writing, because I simply lack the skills to get fluff into a readable format. I should get me some of them skills tho.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Severian

That's why I love science writing and (good) journalism. To the point, no bullshit, no fluff, just mad dets and facts and formulas and structure. STRUCTURE!

I suck at feature-writing, because I simply lack the skills to get fluff into a readable format. I should get me some of them skills tho.

structure is mental gold

a memory palace instead of a pigsty

anyway i have cleared my shitbox. a full shitbox is unsightly and it smells!

SELL ME YR LAND

(nah, don't sell it yet. im just curious about it)

BTW-- i have a friend who is a caretaker in a millionaire summer cabin. lives there rent-free most of the year and keeps it pest-free, then scoots out when the owners come (all done with proper arrangements)

anyway-- off topic. so back to books/readings.

it's coffee time!!! FOOD OF THE GODS THIS IS NOT BUT IT HELPS

[Severian]

Picked up “Catch-22” last night on a whim. It’s been a while. I was laughing out loud by page 2. Might read while waiting for “Sapiens” to come.

[Rob Instigator]

Finished Tycho & Kepler, awesome book. https://rxttbooks.blogspot.com/2017/...o-shining.html

[ilduclo]

The Book of Dave, I probably won;t finish it, kinda sucky, IMO

[gogologogolo]

I'm reading A Fire Upon the Deep. High concept science fiction about the far future when humans have colonized the Galaxy, and omniscient super-AIs protect and destroy entire civilizations. Pretty visionary entertaining stuff, I'd recommend it.

Sapiens was really good, I liked it so much I bought a hard copy. Seems like just about everybody is reading it lately.

That Kepler book sounds good

[tesla69]

Vernor Vinge is worth reading! I 2nd that about Fire Upon the Deep.

I'm reading The Night Manager by John LeCarre...english intelligence taking out some bad guys...

[Rob Instigator]

A Fire Upon The Deep. hmmm.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

A Fire Upon The Deep. hmmm.

Vernon Vinge!

Hey man, if you’re reading SF of that caliber and breadth, there’s no reason you shouldn’t be all done with Book of the New Sun, Long Sun AND Short Sun by now.

[Rob Instigator]

im nt reading fire upon deep. never heard of fire upon deep.

I am currently reading DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Rick Starussman M.D.

[h8kurdt]

 

I'm on a roll with great books atm. This is one where I think pretty much everyone on here would get something out of it. Here's the blurb to sum it up better than I can.

"he Weathermen. The Symbionese LiberationArmy. The FALN. The Black Liberation Army.The names seem quaint now, when not forgotten altogether. But there was a stretch of time in America, during the 1970s, when bombings by domestic underground groups were a daily occurrence. The FBI combated these groups and others as nodes in a single revolutionary underground, dedicated to the violent overthrow of the American government.
The FBI s response to the leftist revolutionary counterculture has not been treated kindly by history, and in hindsight many of its efforts seem almost comically ineffectual, if not criminal in themselves. But part of the extraordinary accomplishment of Bryan Burrough s Days of Rage is to temper those easy judgments with an understanding of just how deranged these times were, how charged with menace. Burrough re-creates an atmosphere that seems almost unbelievable just forty years later, conjuring a time of native-born radicals, most of them nice middle-class kids, smuggling bombs into skyscrapers and detonating them inside the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol, at a Boston courthouse and a Wall Street restaurant packed with lunchtime diners radicals robbing dozens of banks and assassinating policemen in New York, San Francisco, Atlanta. The FBI, encouraged to do everything possible to undermine the radical underground, itself broke many laws in its attempts to bring the revolutionaries to justice often with disastrous consequences. "

Hes' just talking about the Weathermen atm. I knew of the SDS already but didn't know anything about that going on to be the Weathermen. It's insane how amateurish the whole thing was. Statements that don't mean anything and are barely backed up by anything either, and yet Nixon was terrified of them. He was certain they were going to be the start of a revolution starting with him being assassinated.

Comparing those guys to what he Black Panthers were doing for a time seems almost laughable. Bring on the rest of the book.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

im nt reading fire upon deep. never heard of fire upon deep.

I am currently reading DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Rick Starussman M.D.

Oh. Then I missed a previous exchange or something. Either way, finish BOTNS.