Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore Announce Split - Page 24

Count Mecha · 11.01.2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelle

I'm not quite familiar with every english expression, so what did he mean with "the T&K split is ugly" ? That it's not happening or that it's chaotic?

He was implying chaos. That it was not a very smooth breakup and that there will be alot of bad blood.

Pelle · 11.01.2011, 12:17 PM

oh, damn

Genteel Death · 11.01.2011, 06:29 PM

Sonic Youth should really call it a day. they haven't been truly great for quite some time now. You will get over it, and there are more interesting people making music right now. If you can't find them, with the wealth of information that is available to you on the internet, fuck off and die. Nobody cares. You're probably more likely to get over it and perhaps stop listening to your favourite records by PJ Harvey, who's old enough to be your grandmother. There used to be a time when us old people were told to go back and listen to our records by people who recorded them in our youth. Now, it seems, more young people listen to us old people's old records, or certainly by artists who seem unable to create something that doesn't sound like them. Get your own youth culture, dickehads.

E. Noisefield · 11.01.2011, 07:33 PM

Nah, they shouldn't break up. Honestly, I don't think they will. Not the band. Not yet. I think they'll make a final statement of some kind. We know they've been recording here and there (always are), and they respect their fans and eachother too much to just drop it.

Unless this was a really messy split-up and shit's been bad between Thurston and Kim. .

jennthebenn · 11.01.2011, 07:44 PM

I'm an old, voracious consumer. Can't help it. Would rather it not be
helped.

EVOLghost · 11.01.2011, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Sonic Youth should really call it a day. they haven't been truly great for quite some time now. You will get over it, and there are more interesting people making music right now. If you can't find them, with the wealth of information that is available to you on the internet, fuck off and die. Nobody cares. You're probably more likely to get over it and perhaps stop listening to your favourite records by PJ Harvey, who's old enough to be your grandmother. There used to be a time when us old people were told to go back and listen to our records by people who recorded them in our youth. Now, it seems, more young people listen to us old people's old records, or certainly by artists who seem unable to create something that doesn't sound like them. Get your own youth culture, dickehads.

lol fuck off. If you don't care that's fine, but you must understand that it's not JUST about the music to some people you fuck.

jon boy · 11.01.2011, 09:57 PM

my guess is they will do the south american tour, see how that goes and if they wanna continue to tour based on that. my guess is they wont tour for a very long time, if at all. adios sy.

Lamont Cranston · 11.02.2011, 12:38 AM

They're probably sticking with the South American tour because bailing out would mean paying the promoter and others mucho money, and they're not a band thats ever had that sort of luxury.

Genteel Death · 11.02.2011, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost

lol fuck off. If you don't care that's fine, but you must understand that it's not JUST about the music to some people you fuck.

Thin_icE · 11.02.2011, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Sonic Youth should really call it a day. they haven't been truly great for quite some time now.

The best way to answer to this is with another quote of yourself:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

fuck off and die.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamont Cranston

They're probably sticking with the South American tour because bailing out would mean paying the promoter and others mucho money, and they're not a band thats ever had that sort of luxury.

floatingslowly · 11.02.2011, 08:31 AM

hold him down, Gabbers; I'm going to punch him in his stinking piehole.

scott v · 11.02.2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

I totally agree. They should break up and if they do, I wouldn't give a fuck. I mean, they have like what... 17 albums. If they go out, they go out on a high note, but what's up with this 'youth culture' shit? People like music, whether it's old or new. Kids like what they like and a lot of kids are just now getting into Sonic Youth. I'm pretty sure people here check out new music all the time. Rock music is old, Rap is over 30 years old, electronic music is even older. So.....what's really new?

Rappin about bitches and getting your dick sucked?
Power chords and screaming?
Dance beats with synths?
Captain Beefheart wantabees?
Feedback masturbation?

It's all been done. The mainstream just hasn't exploited it yet. I'm pretty sure, 30 years from now, Captain Beefheart like bands will be the new craze.

Captain beefheart like bands have been the craze and in a way its already happened, probably at least twice... definitely in the late 70's early 80's with the NYC No Wave movement, whether these bands knew it or not there is a similiarity between them and beefheart especially structurally and the atonal guitars, but they didn't have a much of an audience at all until 20 or so years later... then another derivative movement in the early 00's with early Black Dice (when they were more of a noise/hardcore band), Sightings, early-Liars, and supposedly the Yeah Yeah Yeahs (not IMO though)... this was all kinda featured in that documentary called Kill Yr Idols eventhough i think the relationship between the original No NY bands and the newer generation from the past 10 or so years is pretty loose. some of these bands are pretty well known in alternative music circles now, (i.e. The Liars, & The Yeah Yeah Yeahs), I'm not sure if it would get any more popular than it has already become.

Derek · 11.02.2011, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Sonic Youth should really call it a day. they haven't been truly great for quite some time now. You will get over it, and there are more interesting people making music right now. If you can't find them, with the wealth of information that is available to you on the internet, fuck off and die. Nobody cares. You're probably more likely to get over it and perhaps stop listening to your favourite records by PJ Harvey, who's old enough to be your grandmother. There used to be a time when us old people were told to go back and listen to our records by people who recorded them in our youth. Now, it seems, more young people listen to us old people's old records, or certainly by artists who seem unable to create something that doesn't sound like them. Get your own youth culture, dickehads.

Word.

sonikdeathmonkey · 11.02.2011, 11:18 AM

"When taking down monuments, leave the pedestals, they always come in handy."

Stanislav Lec

Genteel Death · 11.02.2011, 03:40 PM

quote:

a few years ago, both thurston and lee were asked to design some special edition mustang guitars for fender.
they were released to great fanfare.
well it turns out, kim was really disappointed that no one asked to put out HER guitar.
you know how she's always moaning on about women's rights and such.
well, it turns out, she wouldn't shut up about it, and finally Fender had to recall thurston and lee's guitars.
when forced to renegotiate, thurston and lee were to tell fender that unless they put out a kim gordon guitar,
than they couldn't lend their names to the brand.
fender refused, and the line was put out of production.
thurston and both lee were resentful of this ultra PC bent that kim forced them to adopt(as per usual. . ?)
this proved to be the final dividing line however, as thurston continually confronted kim about her ruining his passive cash cow,
and that her feminist PC stance on the guitars was really just masking her insecurities about her validity as a "real musician"
thurston exploited this to the point where kim eventually moved out of their connecticut home, and this led to thurston ultimately asking for
a divorce. apparently, he has met someone. wild flag ?

the mystery continues.

i saw thurston was at their(wild flag) show the other night.

stealing all tha riot grrl's hearts.

that dog.
http://terminal-boredom.com/forums/i...topic=34143.45

EVOLghost · 11.02.2011, 03:49 PM

woah. Does that quote come from that site? My school has it blocked right now....

jennthebenn · 11.02.2011, 03:50 PM

Yeah...there's a lot wrong with that. It's...not complex.

Pelle · 11.02.2011, 03:55 PM

Well how bout that...

Genteel Death · 11.02.2011, 03:57 PM

I can't really confirm anything. Just read it today on that forum and thought I should post it on here. I wouldn't know what to believe myself. Could be only a rumour. It could be not. Who knows?

EVOLghost · 11.02.2011, 04:02 PM

kk...finally seen it. I would love to know where that person "read" it from.

11.01.2011, 12:17 PM	#462
Pelle expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,725	oh, damn
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11.01.2011, 06:29 PM	#463
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	Sonic Youth should really call it a day. they haven't been truly great for quite some time now. You will get over it, and there are more interesting people making music right now. If you can't find them, with the wealth of information that is available to you on the internet, fuck off and die. Nobody cares. You're probably more likely to get over it and perhaps stop listening to your favourite records by PJ Harvey, who's old enough to be your grandmother. There used to be a time when us old people were told to go back and listen to our records by people who recorded them in our youth. Now, it seems, more young people listen to us old people's old records, or certainly by artists who seem unable to create something that doesn't sound like them. Get your own youth culture, dickehads.
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11.01.2011, 07:33 PM	#464
E. Noisefield the end of the ugly Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In the hearts of men Posts: 869	Nah, they shouldn't break up. Honestly, I don't think they will. Not the band. Not yet. I think they'll make a final statement of some kind. We know they've been recording here and there (always are), and they respect their fans and eachother too much to just drop it. Unless this was a really messy split-up and shit's been bad between Thurston and Kim. .
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11.01.2011, 07:44 PM	#465
jennthebenn expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,261	I'm an old, voracious consumer. Can't help it. Would rather it not be helped. __________________ http://jennthebenn.tumblr.com/
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11.01.2011, 09:57 PM	#467
jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	my guess is they will do the south american tour, see how that goes and if they wanna continue to tour based on that. my guess is they wont tour for a very long time, if at all. adios sy. __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
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11.02.2011, 12:38 AM	#468
Lamont Cranston 100% Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 725	They're probably sticking with the South American tour because bailing out would mean paying the promoter and others mucho money, and they're not a band thats ever had that sort of luxury. __________________ This is how it will all end: not with floods, earthquakes, falling comets or gigantic crabs roaming the Earth. No, doomsday will start simply out of indifference.
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11.02.2011, 08:31 AM	#471
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	hold him down, Gabbers; I'm going to punch him in his stinking piehole.
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11.02.2011, 11:18 AM	#474
sonikdeathmonkey little trouble girl Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 41	"When taking down monuments, leave the pedestals, they always come in handy." Stanislav Lec
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11.02.2011, 03:40 PM	#475
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	quote: a few years ago, both thurston and lee were asked to design some special edition mustang guitars for fender. they were released to great fanfare. well it turns out, kim was really disappointed that no one asked to put out HER guitar. you know how she's always moaning on about women's rights and such. well, it turns out, she wouldn't shut up about it, and finally Fender had to recall thurston and lee's guitars. when forced to renegotiate, thurston and lee were to tell fender that unless they put out a kim gordon guitar, than they couldn't lend their names to the brand. fender refused, and the line was put out of production. thurston and both lee were resentful of this ultra PC bent that kim forced them to adopt(as per usual. . ?) this proved to be the final dividing line however, as thurston continually confronted kim about her ruining his passive cash cow, and that her feminist PC stance on the guitars was really just masking her insecurities about her validity as a "real musician" thurston exploited this to the point where kim eventually moved out of their connecticut home, and this led to thurston ultimately asking for a divorce. apparently, he has met someone. wild flag ? the mystery continues. i saw thurston was at their(wild flag) show the other night. stealing all tha riot grrl's hearts. that dog. http://terminal-boredom.com/forums/i...topic=34143.45
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11.02.2011, 03:49 PM	#476
EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	woah. Does that quote come from that site? My school has it blocked right now....
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11.02.2011, 03:50 PM	#477
jennthebenn expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,261	Yeah...there's a lot wrong with that. It's...not complex. __________________ http://jennthebenn.tumblr.com/
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11.02.2011, 03:55 PM	#478
Pelle expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,725	Well how bout that...
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11.02.2011, 03:57 PM	#479
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	I can't really confirm anything. Just read it today on that forum and thought I should post it on here. I wouldn't know what to believe myself. Could be only a rumour. It could be not. Who knows?
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11.02.2011, 04:02 PM	#480
EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	kk...finally seen it. I would love to know where that person "read" it from.
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