Favourite SY Album of the 00's - Page 3

lunberg · 10.03.2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SonikJesus

Sonic Nurse is a masterpiece. I consider it better than DDN. Every song is good. It's a very underrated album. But I love all of the '00s albums. After Nurse, I can't pick an order for the remaining three albiums. I like them equally.

same for me, except i'd put murray street right after it.

Tokolosh · 10.03.2006, 03:21 PM

Sonic Nurse and then NYCG&F.

lunberg · 10.03.2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss

Frankly, I don't see why people seem to love Sonic Nurse and Murray Street so much...for me MS had "Karenology/Karen Revisited" and "Radical Adults Lick Godhead Style" ("Rain On Tin" is a good song, but it's hardly the masterpiece some fans/critics make it out to be), while SN had no really good songs after "Stones" ("Paper Cut Exit" was OK, but I think Lee's done/can do better, and "I Love You Golden Blue" had a cool intro but after that the track was weak IMO)...

I think the expression "Too many cooks spoil the broth" works in the case of Sonic Youth's 2000s...Jim O'Rourke might be good with Gaster Del Sol and such, but with SY he did nothing but weigh down the band and overcomplicate things, turning them into a second-rate Wilco ripoff at best and weak post-rockers at worst.

For me, Rather Ripped is more cohesive and propulsive, now that they've shed the excess baggage...I haven't heard enough of NYC Ghosts and Flowers to judge there, but what I have heard I like...

SY a second rate Wilco !! You have to be kidding me!! Some people just seem to be pissed that SY can actually offer interesting music with elaborate structure ( not just your verse chorus verse stuff). What you call excess baggage is for me what makes it(SN) a good record : the multiple intertwining melodic lines, the long musical development is the work of true craftsman that envisage the song as a whole and not just one melodic hook + several clichéd development (Incinerate baby !!). I see no link with post rock at all, SN owes more to jazz(unmade bed, i love you golden blue, peace attack) and punk(Pattern recognition, Mariah...).

Rather ripped is cohesive and propulsive but ultimately it lacks mystery; Every song (a part from Jams run free and Rats ) is so damn predictable, which is the last thing SY qualfiies for.

satirejohn · 10.03.2006, 04:11 PM

Murray Street quite easily. I'm surprised it isn't the clear winner. their best since DDN.

HeatherAngel · 10.03.2006, 05:39 PM

dude....nurse is awsome...

AND RR

Washing Machine · 10.03.2006, 06:25 PM

Its a Shame NYCG&F is doing so badly, I really think that record is one of the greatest records they've ever put out, although I ultimately voted for Sonic Nurse, NYCG&F was very close. I think NYCG&F holds together much better as an album than 'Murray Street' does (one of the very few problems with Rather Ripped). I tend to listen to only a few songs on MS (Karenology and Radical Adults Lick Godhead Style mainly), where I listen to NYCG&F as a whole piece. I still adore 'Murray Street' though. I suppose such is the level of excellence in their 00's output its difficult to decide.

PS; That Pitchfork review for NYCG&F was bollocks

kittens · 10.03.2006, 06:42 PM

I dunno, getting a 0.0 is pretty damn impressive.

Washing Machine · 10.03.2006, 06:48 PM

Yeah i suppose, worse still they got a o.o, in some ways thats better than getting an luke warm review, still I question the taste of any reviewer that doesn't dig Lou Reed's 'Metal Machine Music'

Androol · 10.03.2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

I cannot believe nurse is winning. Such a shit album. It's like a less watered down Rather Ripped.

sorry but dude ranch nurse is my new favorite song

SonikJesus · 10.03.2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lunberg

SY a second rate Wilco !! You have to be kidding me!! Some people just seem to be pissed that SY can actually offer interesting music with elaborate structure ( not just your verse chorus verse stuff). What you call excess baggage is for me what makes it(SN) a good record : the multiple intertwining melodic lines, the long musical development is the work of true craftsman that envisage the song as a whole and not just one melodic hook + several clichéd development (Incinerate baby !!). I see no link with post rock at all, SN owes more to jazz(unmade bed, i love you golden blue, peace attack) and punk(Pattern recognition, Mariah...).

Rather ripped is cohesive and propulsive but ultimately it lacks mystery; Every song (a part from Jams run free and Rats ) is so damn predictable, which is the last thing SY qualfiies for.

You read my mind. I was going to say something similar when I read that post. With Jim, the songs were so complex and well put together. They were truly masterpieces. Now, the songs are less complex and are more predictable (but I still like them). That's probably why RR sounds like it does; because Jim is not there. That's not to say that SY can't make complex songs as a four piece. A Thousand Leaves and Washing Machine have some amazing songs, some of which it is amazing to think that only four people are playing. I'm not saying that I want Jim back but that he helped a lot. SY kick ass as a four-piece.

Everyneurotic · 10.03.2006, 09:25 PM

i would never have guessed that most of you favored nurse, i voted for it.

against_the_grain · 10.03.2006, 09:37 PM

Mmmmmm...

Murray Street
Sonic Nurse
Rather Ripped
NYC-G&F

I need to listen to NYCGF again....I'm least familiar with it. I had it a few years ago...and it's slipped through the cracks. I wasn't blown away by it then, I may feel differently now.

As simple as RR is...I still love it though.....just another phase, I'm sure the next will be completely different.

lisayoung · 10.03.2006, 10:31 PM

well,my fav is sonic nurse.its amazing.RR is a little shocking to me.i thought it wasn't their way.

Washing Machine · 10.05.2006, 06:07 AM

I wouldn't worry I think 'Rather Ripped' will go down like 'Experimental, Jet Set...' did, a good album but not one of their classics. Im expected a masterpiece for the next album, something that changes the whole path of the band's sound like 'Washing Machine'

Fox · 10.05.2006, 06:30 AM

NYC Ghosts & Flowers, for me. And I think it's one of their all time best albums. It's just great and NYC Ghosts & Flowers is my favorite song of the band. Great

ni'k · 10.05.2006, 06:39 AM

Nurse
Murray Street
NYC
Rather Ripped

In that order.

Man I fucking love Nurse. Never in the history of music has an album been so constantly revealing to me. It has so many layers and little things to it that you never notice. I mean it never struck me as anything but a very good but not great album for like a year. But now it is a classic to me, truly one of my favorite of all time. Can't explain it but there is something about that album that people don't get. Maybe it's the production or something, but the thing is a fucking heavy, while it seems to be really light at the same time.

Pax Americana · 10.05.2006, 10:46 AM

Nurse
NYC
Murray

Rather Ripped

toxic johnny · 10.05.2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit

NYC ghosts & flowers, no doubt. amazing record,amazing live versions.
it's one of my fav albums by SY and maybe of all times.
now hit me with your magic wand and go to sleep.

Seconded... thirded and fourthed...

blue sunlover · 10.05.2006, 10:58 AM

the tao of now is rather ripped.used to listen to this album in may.the only tour i saw was murray street.several months later i saw "one way" blow down on tv with the wind in california

blue sunlover · 10.05.2006, 11:00 AM

the best albums have the less votes

View Poll Results: Favourite SY Album of the 00's
NYC Ghosts & Flowers (2000)	10	10.10%
Murray Street (2002)	33	33.33%
Sonic Nurse (2004)	41	41.41%
Rather Ripped (2006)	15	15.15%
Voters: 99. You may not vote on this poll

10.03.2006, 03:21 PM	#42
Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	Sonic Nurse and then NYCG&F. __________________ Anything you can /imagine is real
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10.03.2006, 04:11 PM	#44
satirejohn bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 102	Murray Street quite easily. I'm surprised it isn't the clear winner. their best since DDN.
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10.03.2006, 05:39 PM	#45
HeatherAngel empty page Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 21	dude....nurse is awsome... AND RR
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10.03.2006, 06:25 PM	#46
Washing Machine expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cardiff, Spiderland Posts: 1,465	Its a Shame NYCG&F is doing so badly, I really think that record is one of the greatest records they've ever put out, although I ultimately voted for Sonic Nurse, NYCG&F was very close. I think NYCG&F holds together much better as an album than 'Murray Street' does (one of the very few problems with Rather Ripped). I tend to listen to only a few songs on MS (Karenology and Radical Adults Lick Godhead Style mainly), where I listen to NYCG&F as a whole piece. I still adore 'Murray Street' though. I suppose such is the level of excellence in their 00's output its difficult to decide. PS; That Pitchfork review for NYCG&F was bollocks __________________ ....Of Course its some kinda cosmic payback for being too ironic!
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10.03.2006, 06:42 PM	#47
kittens empty page Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6	I dunno, getting a 0.0 is pretty damn impressive.
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10.03.2006, 06:48 PM	#48
Washing Machine expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cardiff, Spiderland Posts: 1,465	Yeah i suppose, worse still they got a o.o, in some ways thats better than getting an luke warm review, still I question the taste of any reviewer that doesn't dig Lou Reed's 'Metal Machine Music' __________________ ....Of Course its some kinda cosmic payback for being too ironic!
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10.03.2006, 09:25 PM	#51
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	i would never have guessed that most of you favored nurse, i voted for it. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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10.03.2006, 09:37 PM	#52
against_the_grain stalker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: across the Hudson Posts: 502	Mmmmmm... Murray Street Sonic Nurse Rather Ripped NYC-G&F I need to listen to NYCGF again....I'm least familiar with it. I had it a few years ago...and it's slipped through the cracks. I wasn't blown away by it then, I may feel differently now. As simple as RR is...I still love it though.....just another phase, I'm sure the next will be completely different. __________________ Don't play what's there, play what's not there. Do not* fear mistakes. There are none* Miles Davis
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10.03.2006, 10:31 PM	#53
lisayoung little trouble girl Join Date: May 2006 Location: harbor F Posts: 49	well,my fav is sonic nurse.its amazing.RR is a little shocking to me.i thought it wasn't their way. __________________ www.myspace.com/lisayoung
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10.05.2006, 06:07 AM	#54
Washing Machine expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cardiff, Spiderland Posts: 1,465	I wouldn't worry I think 'Rather Ripped' will go down like 'Experimental, Jet Set...' did, a good album but not one of their classics. Im expected a masterpiece for the next album, something that changes the whole path of the band's sound like 'Washing Machine' __________________ ....Of Course its some kinda cosmic payback for being too ironic!
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10.05.2006, 06:30 AM	#55
Fox the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: France Posts: 599	NYC Ghosts & Flowers, for me. And I think it's one of their all time best albums. It's just great and NYC Ghosts & Flowers is my favorite song of the band. Great __________________ #green_light_chat Myspace => Fox Noisejob
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10.05.2006, 06:39 AM	#56
ni'k invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,360	Nurse Murray Street NYC Rather Ripped In that order. Man I fucking love Nurse. Never in the history of music has an album been so constantly revealing to me. It has so many layers and little things to it that you never notice. I mean it never struck me as anything but a very good but not great album for like a year. But now it is a classic to me, truly one of my favorite of all time. Can't explain it but there is something about that album that people don't get. Maybe it's the production or something, but the thing is a fucking heavy, while it seems to be really light at the same time.
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10.05.2006, 10:46 AM	#57
Pax Americana expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,187	Nurse NYC Murray Rather Ripped
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10.05.2006, 10:58 AM	#59
blue sunlover stalker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 506	the tao of now is rather ripped.used to listen to this album in may.the only tour i saw was murray street.several months later i saw "one way" blow down on tv with the wind in california
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10.05.2006, 11:00 AM	#60
blue sunlover stalker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 506	the best albums have the less votes
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