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Old 11.29.2007, 09:55 AM   #41
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The national Socialist party (Nazis) were a roman catholic party, a christian party, with full coplicit support from the vatican in their attempted extermnination of the hebrew people.

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and saying hitler was a pagan means nothing. many of our leadres in washington, republicana nd democrat, are actually agnostic or athiest but cannnot say so, to keep the support of the sheep.
hitler was the same way.
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Old 11.29.2007, 09:56 AM   #42
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toko's post just made me realize that if you went out in the streets of houston yelling that jesus loved to gobble shit-covered cocks you'd likely be lynched, arrested or taken to a psychiatric facility within the hour (probably all 3 with various degrees of success).

dare???

videotape it or it didn't happen

already been done by me.

Houston people don;t care about that bullshit man. we are cynics.
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Old 11.29.2007, 09:58 AM   #43
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Its not because they are a supposedly satanic cult that makes freemasonry so literally frightening. and further, intolerance must be removed from everywhere, not just religion. isn't it a two-way street? why should people be intolerant in reaction?

you did not read what I said correctly.

I said that the reason that religious groups paint the freemasons as being satanic is because they teach that no religion is "True", and that all religions offer a path to enlightenment and wisdom and god.

How am I being intoletrant by saying shit about a child-fucker like mohammed? Several of his wives were 12 years old. Nice guy.
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Old 11.29.2007, 10:05 AM   #44
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Old 11.29.2007, 11:37 AM   #45
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...at least she didn't end up with 8 bullets, a slit throat, a machete in the chest and a kitchen knife pinning a note to the stomach.... but, it seems she made a legitimate mistake, while theo was a incorrigible agitator. neither deserved anything near what they got.
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Old 11.29.2007, 03:21 PM   #46
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actually i think hitler took a dim view of catholics and i think any support the vatican had for the nazis was an act of diplomacy and appeasement with a view to protecting german catholics rather than an act of complicity in a genocide
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Old 11.29.2007, 03:30 PM   #47
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How am I being intoletrant by saying shit about a child-fucker like mohammed? Several of his wives were 12 years old. Nice guy.

for a well-read person like you, you're not showing a lot of historical understanding.

i cannot corroborate or deny if some of his wives were indeed 12, but consider:

-the concept of childhood is a fairly new one, dating back probably to rousseau
-in old times, you started working as soon as you could walk. there were no saturday morning cartoons.
-women got pregnant as soon as it was possible.
-ask yourself-- was marrying pubescent girls a common practice in that place at that time? or was he doing this on his own?
-think of other milennia-old practices like the jewish one of declaring a boy to be a man at 13. sure does that not apply today, does it? even though it's still done in a religious context, 13 year olds aren't ready to leave the nest. a full course of education takes something like 20 years these days.

it's a bit absurd to apply modern standards to the historical past, especially without making an attempt to understand what was going on back then.

just sayin'
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Old 11.29.2007, 03:32 PM   #48
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again, Hitler was not the whole of the Nazi party.
his personal views are irrelevant to this. the National Socialist party was a christian party through and through.
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Old 11.29.2007, 03:35 PM   #49
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for a well-read person like you, you're not showing a lot of historical understanding.

i cannot corroborate or deny if some of his wives were indeed 12, but consider:

-the concept of childhood is a fairly new one, dating back probably to rousseau
-in old times, you started working as soon as you could walk. there were no saturday morning cartoons.
-women got pregnant as soon as it was possible.
-ask yourself-- was marrying pubescent girls a common practice in that place at that time? or was he doing this on his own?
-think of other milennia-old practices like the jewish one of declaring a boy to be a man at 13. sure does that not apply today, does it? a full course of education takes something like 20 years these days.
it's a bit absurd to apply modern standards to the historical past, especially without making an attempt to understand what was going on back then.

just sayin'

This is all true !@#%#, very much so. However, go to a muslim nation and speak the FACT that Mohammed stuck his cock into a 12 year old and see if you won't get killed for it.
Like I said, my personal BS is not the issue. I declared that none of this mindless violence and hate and aggression and castigation will stop until humanity as a whole sees the lie of "true" religions and understand that , like the freemasons teach, all religions, when practiced honestly and faithfully, preach the same things and guide a person towards the same enlightenments.
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GAHHH!!!!! EVERYONE STFU ABOUT THE NAZIS ALREADY!!! HOW DID THIS THREAD ACHIEVE GODWIN'S LAW IN 5 POSTS!!!! IT'S NOT RELEVANT!!!!


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GAHHH!!!!! EVERYONE STFU ABOUT THE NAZIS ALREADY!!! HOW DID THIS THREAD ACHIEVE GODWIN'S LAW IN 5 POSTS!!!! IT'S NOT RELEVANT!!!!


sorry,,, tired and cranky. didn't sleep last night have final project due next week. continue.

i think it's because i called ratso a nazi fucker, and that got taken out of context.

yeah i havent slept much either, ha!
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Old 11.29.2007, 03:40 PM   #52
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This is all true !@#%#, very much so. However, go to a muslim nation and speak the FACT that Mohammed stuck his cock into a 12 year old and see if you won't get killed for it.
Like I said, my personal BS is not the issue. I declared that none of this mindless violence and hate and aggression and castigation will stop until humanity as a whole sees the lie of "true" religions and understand that , like the freemasons teach, all religions, when practiced honestly and faithfully, preach the same things and guide a person towards the same enlightenments.

i think speaking of mohammed "sticking his cock" into anything would get you killed.

did he have actual physical relations with a prepubescent girl? honestly, i have no idea. but once puberty hits, by natural law, it's a go. our modern ethics and psychology are-- well, modern.

i don't think that all religions prach the same things. i actually dislike religions. i was just reading some catholic book on combatting depression and it was so full of shit-- it said that masturbation causes depression-- AS IF.

anyway, i don't give 2 fucks about religion, honestly. but i do have respect for people's beliefs, and a partial appreciation of them, absurd as i may find some of their aspects.
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again, Hitler was not the whole of the Nazi party.
his personal views are irrelevant to this. the National Socialist party was a christian party through and through.

the ira and the udf were both christian but that never stopped them killing each other. which is to say catholics to don't account for all christians and all christians certainly aren't catholic.
and hitler's views and opinions pretty much permeated through the whole of the nazi party, the national socialists weren't a democratic party, you know?
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drawing a picture of mohammed will get you killed.

talking about him sticking his cock into something will get you drawn and quartered.

shoowing a mad load of spooge upon some Mullah's eye ball gets you $100.00.
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i think speaking of mohammed "sticking his cock" into anything would get you killed.

case in point... theo van gogh (dutch film director and loudmouth) was fond of refering to muslims as "goat fuckers" ... see above photo for results.
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the ira and the udf were both christian but that never stopped them killing each other. which is to say catholics to don't account for all christians and all christians certainly aren't catholic.
and hitler's views and opinions pretty much permeated through the whole of the nazi party, the national socialists weren't a democratic party, you know?

EXACTLY
The IRA (roman catholic) and the UDF (protestant) killed each other for their religion. That has been going omn in the UK for centuries, first the protestants kill catholics, then the cathiolics kill protestants and vice versa depending upon who is in power.

Hebrews in israel kill countless palestinians but do not see how that relates to their own millenia long opporession by everyone under the sun.

Sunni Muslims kill countless Shia muslims and vice versa, and will continue to do so.

Many ignorant christians in tyhe USA believe that we are engaged in a religious Holy war, a war between christians like "us" and Muslims.

that will lead to lots and lots of fun i guarantee ya.

ALl I am saying is that the mass realization of the inherent ridiculosuness of belief in a "one and only TRUE religion" needs to occur amongst the whole of humanity.
Until humans get past this superstition we will forvere run the risk of annhihilating ourselves and everyone on the planet.
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The national Socialist party (Nazis) were a roman catholic party, a christian party, with full coplicit support from the vatican in their attempted extermnination of the hebrew people.

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and saying hitler was a pagan means nothing. many of our leadres in washington, republicana nd democrat, are actually agnostic or athiest but cannnot say so, to keep the support of the sheep.
hitler was the same way.

now i'd say the iron cross has lost any catholic meaning it once had (from the teutonic knights in the 14 C), just as the swastika has lost it's original meaning (ancient buddhist and also hindu good luck symbol).

i'd say naming the nazis as a catholic organisation is going a bit too far.
hitler & cronies set up a state run church (the reich church) but it didn't get very far popularity wise.
german, nazi christians tried to restructure the whole of christianity into a racially pure, new brand. they wanted to clear the church teachings of all the ungerman elements, particually the influence from the vatican.
it is complicated though because you can't just declare war on the catholic church. it's unconcievable.

they are a force to be reckoned with, and that's why the nazis cooperated with them. also, there was the issue of the 22 million catholics in germany at the time, hence the smiley propaganda posters of hitler and bishops.

when talking about nazi germany you have to get past the carefully constructed propaganda shroud and get to the reality - it's what makes it so difficult.

anyway, this is all good revision for my exam on this in january.
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also, germany's past includes being the home base for the Holy Catholic church until the schism was "repaired"
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the swastika that was used by Hindus and the orient was the reverse of the one used by the nazis.
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not debating how important catholism is to germany's history, and vice versa, i'm saying that the nazis weren't a "roman-catholic organisation but something more complex
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