reassessing a thousand leaves - Page 3

Mortte Jousimo · 01.12.2011, 02:55 AM

I think Contre is very good opener!!! I think it kind tuning you into right mood! Of course it´s not typical roc-album opener, but I think it is one reason I like it a lot!

Mortte Jousimo · 01.12.2011, 03:00 AM

And I listen always the whole album (I couldn´t imagine to listen only part of it, I think it is so great entity! But I very rare listen only part of the album, I do it almost only with compilations).

The Earl Of Slander · 01.12.2011, 08:41 PM

Yeah, for me this is a total 'album', rather than one where I tend to pick out certain songs. All the little different swirling 'unfinished' sounding bits are absolutely what make it one of their best. Like I think Heather Angel is a perfect example. What devides people into those who like Sunday/Wildflower Soul/Hits Of Sunshine/Karen Koltrane, but think the album is mixed, and those who adore the whole thing, is that the latter group will get to Heather Angel and just be like 'Yes! There is literally no better imaginable ending to this album that some whispy beautiful guitar scraps with Kim floating around them that suddenly turns into a broken sounding righteous jam and then just ENDS.' I'm very happy to fall into the latter camp.

EVOLghost · 01.13.2011, 06:08 AM

the first time I heard Heather Angel I almost creamed my pants.....well.....just at the 2nd half....where they atart jammin'.

EVOLghost · 01.13.2011, 06:09 AM

and well.....the slow part before the jam just gave me a boner...

Mortte Jousimo · 01.13.2011, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOLghost

the first time I heard Heather Angel I almost creamed my pants.....well.....just at the 2nd half....where they atart jammin'.

First times I listened Heather Angel I didn´t know what to think about it. To me it sounded that they couldn´t carry on to be serious anymore and they started to play like children (in the end of the song). Now I like it a lot. Maybe I was too serius guy earlier!

Mortte Jousimo · 01.14.2011, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nefeli

you talk about whats going on at the end, but since the start there is, depending on your mood or how you wanna see it, there is surely smth playful. in french tickler too.
its their lullaby aspect. dont you just love it? (washing machine has it a lot)

Yes, I love the whole Washing Machine and also Thousand leaves a lot already in the beginning! But there wasn´t that big changes on the middle of song before Heather Angel, that was my point. And that end part is kind of " we just play, no matter what it sounds"

SYHamilton · 01.14.2011, 02:31 PM

I always hated how they cut out part of the noise sequence in the Sunday video - right after the ballerinas, when Culkin takes off his hat.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 01.17.2011, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

I disliked "Contre" for a long, long time, and perhaps that had some effect on my notorious opinion of the album itself. Don't know...but I like the track quite a lot now...though I rarely listen to this album in its entirety anymore (usually a side or two of vinyl rather than the CD from front to back). I dig that they decided to open the album with a piece snipped from a larger improvisation - it's basically just an injection of the SYR spirit into the lead-off track from the major label album! Then "Sunday" starts and everyone can breathe...for a few minutes...

I agree with this completely, and I was having just such an epiphany the last time I was listening to this record which is why I brought this thread back up in the first place.

ann ashtray · 01.17.2011, 07:45 PM

The only Sonic Youth album I still (and have since I discovered in circa '99) listen to on a regular basis. They really nailed it on that one.

The Watcher · 01.17.2011, 11:55 PM

Tied with SYR5 and NYC Ghosts And Flowers for my least favorite SY record.......

Chris Lawrence · 01.18.2011, 02:23 AM

I wish SY were one of those bands that releases a live album after every tour because a live record from this tour would be my favorite thing ever. As it stands, good album.

The Watcher · 01.18.2011, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

I wish SY were one of those bands that releases a live album after every tour

Like Iron Maiden does (almost). That's a good idea...... I wish Maiden would have done one after the Matter Of Life And Death tour I felt those were the strongest songs since they got back to the original lineup + Janick........

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 01.18.2011, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

I wish SY were one of those bands that releases a live album after every tour because a live record from this tour would be my favorite thing ever. As it stands, good album.

This is why, particularly in the post-Washing Machine era I have consistently compared live sonic youth with the grateful dead. SY tapers where are you?

samuel · 04.12.2020, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

I wish SY were one of those bands that releases a live album after every tour because a live record from this tour would be my favorite thing ever. As it stands, good album.

We're all aware of these by now:
https://sonicyouth.bandcamp.com/albu...s-angeles-1998

But dang, really enjoyed this one in particular!

greenlight · 04.12.2020, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

I wish SY were one of those bands that releases a live album after every tour because a live record from this tour would be my favorite thing ever. As it stands, good album.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcaeV6nH...on_share_sheet

Skuj · 04.17.2020, 10:19 PM

Did I post in this thread?

Fuckin', A Thousand Leaves is my favourite Sonic youth album, and Kim, especially, is at her peak on this. She is like Macca on Revolver here.

And fuck you all, Contre Le Sexisme is a Masterpiece.

The Soup Nazi · 04.18.2020, 01:30 AM

I posted this before on a different thread, but what the hecks:

Quote:

Okay, maybe I am being a bit bratty when I pick this under-appreciated SY album over Bad Moon Rising or the Zensor EP or… But I absolutely LOVE this record, so to heck with the rest of you! Recorded at a weird time in their career, after the rise of the "grunge" scene that embraced them and made them almost famous, and done when Kim Gordon wasn't playing much bass - preferring the guitar - I think this record is chock full of amazing songs. On "Snare, Girl" Thurston Moore actually CROONS, and the results are so wistfully attractive. "Karen Koltrane" is one of Lee Ranaldo's best moments. "Heather Angel" is a bracing closer. I never quite got with "Orange Sunshine" though. But tough shit - this record is amazing anyway! It's a great combination of accessible songs (like "Sunday") and incredibly successful sonic explorations. It deserves more attention.

—Nels Cline, 2015

https://dustedmagazine.tumblr.com/po...out-nels-cline

hedgehog · 04.18.2020, 08:16 AM

Contre is one of the best introductions to an album I've ever heard... really theatrical!

whorefrost · 04.19.2020, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hedgehog

Contre is one of the best introductions to an album I've ever heard... really theatrical!

Hear hear! This is probably my favourite Sonic Youth album. First one I got actually, as a present for Christmas '98

01.12.2011, 02:55 AM	#41
Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	I think Contre is very good opener!!! I think it kind tuning you into right mood! Of course it´s not typical roc-album opener, but I think it is one reason I like it a lot!
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

01.12.2011, 03:00 AM	#42
Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	And I listen always the whole album (I couldn´t imagine to listen only part of it, I think it is so great entity! But I very rare listen only part of the album, I do it almost only with compilations).
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

01.12.2011, 08:41 PM	#43
The Earl Of Slander the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,156	Yeah, for me this is a total 'album', rather than one where I tend to pick out certain songs. All the little different swirling 'unfinished' sounding bits are absolutely what make it one of their best. Like I think Heather Angel is a perfect example. What devides people into those who like Sunday/Wildflower Soul/Hits Of Sunshine/Karen Koltrane, but think the album is mixed, and those who adore the whole thing, is that the latter group will get to Heather Angel and just be like 'Yes! There is literally no better imaginable ending to this album that some whispy beautiful guitar scraps with Kim floating around them that suddenly turns into a broken sounding righteous jam and then just ENDS.' I'm very happy to fall into the latter camp. __________________ The toothaches got worse, she dreamed of disembodied voices from whose malignance there was no appeal, the soft dusk of mirrors out of which something was about to walk, and empty rooms that waited for her. Your gynaecologist has no test for what she was pregnant with.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

01.13.2011, 06:08 AM	#44
EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	the first time I heard Heather Angel I almost creamed my pants.....well.....just at the 2nd half....where they atart jammin'.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

01.13.2011, 06:09 AM	#45
EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	and well.....the slow part before the jam just gave me a boner...
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

01.14.2011, 02:31 PM	#48
SYHamilton little trouble girl Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 88	I always hated how they cut out part of the noise sequence in the Sunday video - right after the ballerinas, when Culkin takes off his hat. __________________ Hullabalooza isn't about freaks; it's about music, and advertisement,and youth-oriented product positioning
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

01.17.2011, 07:45 PM	#50
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	The only Sonic Youth album I still (and have since I discovered in circa '99) listen to on a regular basis. They really nailed it on that one. __________________ Team Thurston!
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

01.17.2011, 11:55 PM	#51
The Watcher children of satan Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 365	Tied with SYR5 and NYC Ghosts And Flowers for my least favorite SY record.......
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

01.18.2011, 02:23 AM	#52
Chris Lawrence Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: southwest canada Posts: 1,890	I wish SY were one of those bands that releases a live album after every tour because a live record from this tour would be my favorite thing ever. As it stands, good album. __________________ http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang // original folk blues ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .i'm the boy that can enjoy invisibility. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

04.17.2020, 10:19 PM	#57
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,708	Did I post in this thread? Fuckin', A Thousand Leaves is my favourite Sonic youth album, and Kim, especially, is at her peak on this. She is like Macca on Revolver here. And fuck you all, Contre Le Sexisme is a Masterpiece. __________________ Fuckit.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

04.18.2020, 08:16 AM	#59
hedgehog empty page Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Melbourne Posts: 18	Contre is one of the best introductions to an album I've ever heard... really theatrical!
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|