You gonna lie to your kids about Santa someday? - Page 3

Pookie · 12.22.2006, 10:27 AM

To everybody with no children:

regardless of what you say now, you WILL lie to your children about Santa, because it's FUN, and having fun with your children gives you the best feeling you could possibly imagine.

Now give me my dad-of-the-year award please!

atari 2600 · 12.22.2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

Well, in the case you don't think another ice age could be brought about by global warming (which would kill off most of human population) we are eventually going to have a volcano worse than krakatoa erupt, block out the sun, kill plants, kill us, etc.

Not that the human race wouldn't survive, but there'd be huge setbacks.

I agree that we are headed towards just such events.

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Most scientists, in fact, claim that we have reached a point now that there is no stopping global warming no matter what we do to try to rectify the imbalance.

atari 2600 · 12.22.2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pookie

To everybody with no children:

regardless of what you say now, you WILL lie to your children about Santa, because it's FUN, and having fun with your children gives you the best feeling you could possibly imagine.

Now give me my dad-of-the-year award please!

Pat yourself on the back...haha.
It's always intriguing to me how most people, through their ego, think that their, in fact, very typical behavior, is so very individual and unique.

I certainly would never make a point of lecturing my children that Santa isn't real, but if they ask me if Santa is real or not then I would tell them as much of the truth as they wanted to know.

I'll be letting them know The Garden Of Eden was an ancient Hebrew creation myth that became an annual dramatic play and then became the first book of the Old Testament, Genesis.

However, I will also let them know that myths have value as well.

porkmarras · 12.22.2006, 10:56 AM

How very charming,David.

Pookie · 12.22.2006, 10:58 AM

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I don't dislike you Pookie. You're just a typical idiot...don't deny it.

What a bizarre post.

Pookie · 12.22.2006, 11:01 AM

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Geez, you people take the fuckin' cake.

AGAIN,
I DON'T KNOW
why the fuck I bother

You're so fucking disagreeable.

Who GAVE YOU the fucking right to not READ before you comment?

Physician, heal thyself.

porkmarras · 12.22.2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)

ill lie to my kinds about santa. its fun...if there even halfway intelligent theyll look back on it later and be thankful their dad atleast was someonewhat imaginative.

its not an honest world, nor should it be.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to swa(y) again.

Dead-Air · 12.23.2006, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by atari 2600

I certainly would never make a point of lecturing my children that Santa isn't real, but if they ask me if Santa is real or not then I would tell them as much of the truth as they wanted to know.

I'll be letting them know The Garden Of Eden was an ancient Hebrew creation myth that became an annual dramatic play and then became the first book of the Old Testament, Genesis.

However, I will also let them know that myths have value as well.

Clipping out your personal fight with someone else, you've pretty much summed up my thoughts as well.

I don't think participating in a myth is exactly "lying" either. I want my kids to learn about Santa and Jesus too for that matter. Obviously when they're 2-4 they aren't going to be able to exactly grasp the pagan root of the myths, but at some point they will be more curious about those things. I'll try to explain that every legend begins with a real person or event that did something worth retelling and remembering, and that over time society uses those stories to fill needs it has. I'll try to have fun with them first though, and keep it fun as mysteries unfold along the way.

What I want to avoid, that I went through, is them feeling like they have to pretend to believe in something just to keep me happy and believing they're innocent. All that's kind of a tall order, but it can't hurt to shoot for.

ploesj · 12.23.2006, 06:31 AM

well i've never believed in santa, just because he's not as frequent here.. we have sinterklaas, the original santa, and i did believe in him (i'm going to tell my kids that lie anyway, because i remember how much fun it was). we always knew our parents bought the christmas presents, they thought the whole american santa thing was nonsense.

atari 2600 · 12.23.2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air

Clipping out your personal fight with someone else, you've pretty much summed up my thoughts as well.

I don't think participating in a myth is exactly "lying" either. I want my kids to learn about Santa and Jesus too for that matter. Obviously when they're 2-4 they aren't going to be able to exactly grasp the pagan root of the myths, but at some point they will be more curious about those things. I'll try to explain that every legend begins with a real person or event that did something worth retelling and remembering, and that over time society uses those stories to fill needs it has. I'll try to have fun with them first though, and keep it fun as mysteries unfold along the way.

What I want to avoid, that I went through, is them feeling like they have to pretend to believe in something just to keep me happy and believing they're innocent. All that's kind of a tall order, but it can't hurt to shoot for.

It's nice to know some people are willing (you know, through that thing called the WILL) to go that extra mile for the sake of their children and not just follow the BLEAT BLEAT BLEAT of the sheep. The sheep? Yeah, that's right...the sheep, i.e., the overwhelming majority that pollute the world with their mental garbage due to their own fear, apathy and ignorance.

And the beat goes on...

atari 2600 · 12.24.2007, 01:27 PM

& on...

!@#$%! · 12.24.2007, 01:31 PM

no

teach them economics from the cradle

shit doesnt materialize out of thin air, boy

atari 2600 · 12.24.2007, 01:38 PM

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I certainly would never make a point of lecturing my children that Santa isn't real, but if they ask me if Santa is real or not then I would tell them as much of the truth as they wanted to know.

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Originally Posted by me

I'll be letting them know The Garden Of Eden was an ancient Hebrew creation myth that became an annual dramatic play and then became the first book of the Old Testament, Genesis.

However, I will also let them know that myths have value as well.

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Originally Posted by me

I'm for giving children a lesson in history and religion (see the following) that lets them know that Santa, although an amalgam and not a real person, still represents the "spirit of Christmas."

We've had this same topic before at Christmastime, and I wrote the same thing.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

http://www.souledout.org/christmas/s...anicholas.html
or
http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...0&postcount=39

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 12.24.2007, 06:07 PM

I've decided to teach them about how Santa fought off the Martians. That will be my family's tradition. We'll watch Santa vs the Martians every Christmas.

Alex's Trip · 12.24.2007, 08:13 PM

Isn't it Santa Conquers the Martians? I bought that out of $1 bin at target for someone's birthday.

Will I lie to kids about Santa? Yeah. Believing in Santa was awesome. I figured it out at an early age that he wasn't real, but it was good while it lasted. I certainly wasn't sad, or angry. I got presents just the same. And then my little sister came along, and now my parents keep up the charade, and I still get "Santa" presents. Sweet.

girlgun · 12.24.2007, 09:45 PM

i have a 10 year old. he found out about santa not being real last year. he was pissed, but got over it in 10 minutes. when he was younger, we discussed what we (as a family) celebrate. also in this conversation, we discussed other winter holidays/festivals in various religions. what we celebrate in our family is the "magic of christmas". we don't celebrate the birth of christ (but he needs to understand that's what others are celebrating 'round here). we celebrate family and love and winter and even santa.

so yeah. it works for us.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 12.24.2007, 10:01 PM

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i'll tell them 'kids, you know what santa likes to be left out don't you? yas thats right a bottle of whiskey and a great big spliff, now enjoy your lie in' ay ya ay

hahaha

Cantankerous · 12.24.2007, 10:23 PM

me having kids is the biggest issue in this hypothetical situation, we'll focus on lying to them after we deal with that one.

Norma J · 12.25.2007, 01:03 AM

I agree, Swa.

It's all for the kids enjoyment. It's fantasy. And people should be able to live in a fantasy aslong as they can, especially in this day and age.

k-krack · 12.25.2007, 01:06 AM

Yeah, dude.
My parents never really said he was fake. It was just like, "Yeah you understand."
And they still put Santa on like, one present a year (maybe not this year, I don't know...) as a joke.

12.22.2006, 10:27 AM	#41
Pookie invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,877	To everybody with no children: regardless of what you say now, you WILL lie to your children about Santa, because it's FUN, and having fun with your children gives you the best feeling you could possibly imagine. Now give me my dad-of-the-year award please!
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12.22.2006, 10:56 AM	#44
porkmarras invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London - UK Posts: 14,313	How very charming,David. __________________
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12.23.2006, 06:31 AM	#49
ploesj invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: antwerp. Posts: 2,901	well i've never believed in santa, just because he's not as frequent here.. we have sinterklaas, the original santa, and i did believe in him (i'm going to tell my kids that lie anyway, because i remember how much fun it was). we always knew our parents bought the christmas presents, they thought the whole american santa thing was nonsense. __________________ blog flickr
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12.24.2007, 01:27 PM	#51
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	& on...
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12.24.2007, 01:31 PM	#52
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	no teach them economics from the cradle shit doesnt materialize out of thin air, boy
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12.24.2007, 06:07 PM	#54
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	I've decided to teach them about how Santa fought off the Martians. That will be my family's tradition. We'll watch Santa vs the Martians every Christmas.
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12.24.2007, 08:13 PM	#55
Alex's Trip invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,608	Isn't it Santa Conquers the Martians? I bought that out of $1 bin at target for someone's birthday. Will I lie to kids about Santa? Yeah. Believing in Santa was awesome. I figured it out at an early age that he wasn't real, but it was good while it lasted. I certainly wasn't sad, or angry. I got presents just the same. And then my little sister came along, and now my parents keep up the charade, and I still get "Santa" presents. Sweet. __________________ KALOPSIA
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12.24.2007, 09:45 PM	#56
girlgun invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,906	i have a 10 year old. he found out about santa not being real last year. he was pissed, but got over it in 10 minutes. when he was younger, we discussed what we (as a family) celebrate. also in this conversation, we discussed other winter holidays/festivals in various religions. what we celebrate in our family is the "magic of christmas". we don't celebrate the birth of christ (but he needs to understand that's what others are celebrating 'round here). we celebrate family and love and winter and even santa. so yeah. it works for us.
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12.24.2007, 10:23 PM	#58
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	me having kids is the biggest issue in this hypothetical situation, we'll focus on lying to them after we deal with that one.
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12.25.2007, 01:03 AM	#59
Norma J invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orstralia Posts: 4,917	I agree, Swa. It's all for the kids enjoyment. It's fantasy. And people should be able to live in a fantasy aslong as they can, especially in this day and age. __________________ I want girls with new-wave hair-doos
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12.25.2007, 01:06 AM	#60
k-krack invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Posts: 7,380	Yeah, dude. My parents never really said he was fake. It was just like, "Yeah you understand." And they still put Santa on like, one present a year (maybe not this year, I don't know...) as a joke. __________________ sandwich klub 4 men. Danny is a C.H.U.D.
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